Guest guest Posted September 30, 2000 Report Share Posted September 30, 2000 Hi Lori: I'm not on the green team, and I can't speak for bile reflux. I haven't experienced it. But the green team is not the folks that have bile reflux so you might not want to be misled into thinking so. I coined the phrase after one person, Trish Lanman, reported vomiting bile. It was a joke. Nothing more. Then, just being silly, we named anyone who'd ever vomited a member of the green team. I'm not sure how many actually have experienced bile reflux...but...the number of folks who say they're on the green team would not be an accurate assessment of those patients of Dr. Rutledge's who have experienced an incident of bile reflux or who have it at all. You say there are " too many post-ops on the green team to ignore this " . I just want you to understand that the joke about the green team is just that, a joke, and not in any way an accurate reflection of those who may have bile reflux, which to those who have had it is not at all a joke. There might be lots of folks...or there might only be a few...but certainly using that term is done in jest and not in any way to reflect a side affect such as bile reflux. And I suspect that not everyone who has bile reflux has reported it to Dr. Rutledge. You might want to email a sampling of post-op patients if this is a concern to you and will help you in making your decision pro or con. A month before surgery, another pre-op and I became concerned about another aspect of gastric surgery. We wrote an email, divided the list in half and each emailed a sampling of patients to ask them a few questions. We got lots of response and we were satisfied with the answers we got and have both gone forward with surgery. We preferred to get the answers from those who have had surgery and could give us a detailed answer about their own experience. You many want to ask a large number of patients if this has happened to them. This would give you a more accurate and more clear understanding of how frequently this has happened. Best wishes in your research. This is not an easy decision to make and a surgical solution to " our problem " surely is not all positive. It's serious surgery, does have long term concerns, and should be looked at from every angle. When I have a concern (pre-op and post-op) I email Dr. Rutledge privately and he is always thorough and answers me. You may want to do that if you are concerns about the possibily to bile caused ulcers and their treatment or the inability to treat them. Again, best wishes as you plod through the myriad of information available. Flo in land > > I still haven't gotten any answers about treatment of bile reflux, if it happens post-op. Is it treatable??? Can bile caused ulcers be prevented by meds???? The Truth site says no. Dr. Rutledge, can you tell the pre-ops & the post-ops the answer to this one.? I would like to hear it from you. If you bdevelop bile reflux,what can be done???? There seems to be too many post-ops on the Green Team to ignore this question any longer. > > Still trying to decide, RED {Lori Garnes} > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2000 Report Share Posted October 1, 2000 Forgive me if this is a redundant post, I have tons of posts to wade through. But as I read this, the thought also occurred to me that before surgery, when I would get the dry heaves, I would vomit bile. That happened to me many times, and as a retired ER nurse, I've seen people with normal tummies do the same thing. So I guess my point is, you don't have to have the surgery to vomit bile. ? ebbieday > > > > I still haven't gotten any answers about treatment of bile reflux, > if it happens post-op. Is it treatable??? Can bile caused ulcers be > prevented by meds???? The Truth site says no. Dr. Rutledge, can you > tell the pre-ops & the post-ops the answer to this one.? I would like > to hear it from you. If you bdevelop bile reflux,what can be done???? > There seems to be too many post-ops on the Green Team to ignore this > question any longer. > > > > Still trying to decide, RED {Lori Garnes} > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2000 Report Share Posted October 2, 2000 Hi Lori, I am a post-op already, but was prompted by posts to this site to do a bit more research regarding MGB. I found one site -- www.medhelp.org -- that is used by the internet public to get answers to various medical questions. I found a 11/98 post having to do with bile reflux and esophagitis. A son wrote in and indicated his father had a total gastrectomy and that since then, reflux of bile has been very bad. The physician's response was that Amphogel (and aluminum antacid) is sometimes helpful or cholestyramine (Questran) since these act as binders for the bile. The doc also noted that these have limited success. Since this man had his entire stomach removed, I don't know how relevant this is to MGB because some stomach remains and esophagitis (GERD) is actually 'cured' in MGB patients. I share it mainly because it provided some information about drug therapy. Best of luck on your decision. Debbie > > I still haven't gotten any answers about treatment of bile reflux, if it happens post-op. Is it treatable??? Can bile caused ulcers be prevented by meds???? The Truth site says no. Dr. Rutledge, can you tell the pre-ops & the post-ops the answer to this one.? I would like to hear it from you. If you bdevelop bile reflux,what can be done???? There seems to be too many post-ops on the Green Team to ignore this question any longer. > > Still trying to decide, RED {Lori Garnes} > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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