Guest guest Posted September 24, 2000 Report Share Posted September 24, 2000 Hi Guys: I had my MGB on May 31 and weighed 304 pounds. Today I weigh 237 pounds. I had two plateau periods of about three weeks each with no loss during that time. In the first instance the three week period was followed by a six pound weight loss and my most recent plateau was followed by a 9 pound weight loss. So what's that..about 67 pounds in less than four months? Hmmm. Not bad, huh? But more importantly: 1. My acid reflux is gone. I had it for 20 years and took medication every day before surgery. I had three incidents after surgery but since the second month, reflux is a distant memory. 2. I have been off blood pressure medication since surgery. My blood pressure is normal. 3. I sleep all night. I do not wake up gasping for air. I do not need three or more pillows or a recliner to sleep in. 4. I am off arthritis medication. 5. I have had three headaches for which I took Vioxx. I got at least three a week prior to surgery and they were so bad I went to bed. The three I have had were not enjoyable..but not bad enough to go to bed. 5. I fit in airplane seats (Ask Amy P, we both fit). And I fit in restaurant booths. And I fit in those white plastic lawn chair thingies. 6. I can move freely, walk up and down steps the way normal people do and I eat and feel satisfied when I'm done. 7. The guilt over what I eat, how much, what it contains, yadda yadda yadda is gone. I no longer worry. I just eat and sooner or later the weight will come off. The down side? I have to be nearer to a bathroom that I did before surgery. My trips are now very frequent compared to the past. I am currently experimenting with my dietary choices, supplements, etc. to see if I can improve this annoying problem. This is the only downside from my perspective. Bathroom problems and I were not strangers before surgery either...so this is ok. I can handle this. I can work through this by making some different choices with food. I haven't responded much to what's been going on. Like I said before, when I was a kid and my sister or a friend said stuff I didn't want to hear I used to hum really loud and then if they still didn't shut up I'd sing LA LA LA LA LA really loudly. So...I'm still here, in land, loving my new life, singing LA LA LA LA LA and just being grateful for each new day and for the quality that this surgery has given to this one little (formerly big) life in southern land! Flo from land 67 pounds of ugly fat gone forever! At 237 pounds....5 pounds more than the day I got married in 1966! Going to my 40th class reunion in October the thinnest I've showed myself at a reunion since the 1965 one (we have them every five years and I've never missed one!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2000 Report Share Posted September 25, 2000 How wonderful to hear your message. Good for you for being patient this was very important for me to hear that I need to realize that this process may take more time than others. I am planning on taking this whole thing a day at a time. I think your post will be a welcomed message to many in this group. Las Vegas,NV preop selfpay 290 florence@... wrote: > Hi Guys: > > I had my MGB on May 31 and weighed 304 pounds. Today I weigh 237 pounds. I had two > plateau periods of about three weeks each with no loss during that time. In the first instance > the three week period was followed by a six pound weight loss and my most recent plateau > was followed by a 9 pound weight loss. So what's that..about 67 pounds in less than four > months? Hmmm. Not bad, huh? > > But more importantly: 1. My acid reflux is gone. I had it for 20 years and took medication > every day before surgery. I had three incidents after surgery but since the second month, > reflux is a distant memory. 2. I have been off blood pressure medication since surgery. My > blood pressure is normal. 3. I sleep all night. I do not wake up gasping for air. I do not need > three or more pillows or a recliner to sleep in. 4. I am off arthritis medication. 5. I have had > three headaches for which I took Vioxx. I got at least three a week prior to surgery and they > were so bad I went to bed. The three I have had were not enjoyable..but not bad enough to > go to bed. 5. I fit in airplane seats (Ask Amy P, we both fit). And I fit in restaurant booths. > And I fit in those white plastic lawn chair thingies. 6. I can move freely, walk up and down > steps the way normal people do and I eat and feel satisfied when I'm done. 7. The guilt over > what I eat, how much, what it contains, yadda yadda yadda is gone. I no longer worry. I just > eat and sooner or later the weight will come off. > > The down side? I have to be nearer to a bathroom that I did before surgery. My trips are > now very frequent compared to the past. I am currently experimenting with my dietary > choices, supplements, etc. to see if I can improve this annoying problem. This is the only > downside from my perspective. Bathroom problems and I were not strangers before surgery > either...so this is ok. I can handle this. I can work through this by making some different > choices with food. > > I haven't responded much to what's been going on. Like I said before, when I was a kid and > my sister or a friend said stuff I didn't want to hear I used to hum really loud and then if they > still didn't shut up I'd sing LA LA LA LA LA really loudly. So...I'm still here, in land, > loving my new life, singing LA LA LA LA LA and just being grateful for each new day and > for the quality that this surgery has given to this one little (formerly big) life in southern > land! > > Flo from land > 67 pounds of ugly fat gone forever! > At 237 pounds....5 pounds more than the day I got married in 1966! > Going to my 40th class reunion in October the thinnest I've showed myself at a reunion since > the 1965 one (we have them every five years and I've never missed one!) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2000 Report Share Posted September 25, 2000 Hi Flo, I think that is awesome. Congrats on your success. I can't wait to be there on the other side with you! I noticed you hadn't been posting the last few days or so ... we missed you. Welcome Back!!! Terri K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2000 Report Share Posted September 25, 2000 Way to Go Flo !!! Your success is wonderful ! I will say that T's website was the first thing I read when I came home from surgery 9/13 (not a good thing to see) I had my freaking out period and now I think i'm getting better...the first thing I did to begin this mental healing is to get off this MGB-TRUTH list, It was more than I wanted to read, and I left my surgery in the hands of God, I will leave my future in His hands as well. I believe that more than anything the human mind is extremly strong, and if you constantly think bad and negative things...then you will " will " those things to happen. So I am now aware of what to tell my PCP to watch for signs for and thats it...i'm going to focus on me and my new health body. I am not even 2 weeks post op and am already losing so much. I hope to be where you are in four months. I am afraid to eat, i've tried some mashed potatoes, and i'm still just scared to eat anything that's not liquid. I would like to get onto the post-op list if anyone knows how to do this and can instruct me i'd sure appreciate it. I wish you continued success on your journey. in Fl >From: florence@... >Reply-To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >Subject: RE: My Update >Date: 24 Sep 2000 23:21:06 -0500 > >Hi Guys: > >I had my MGB on May 31 and weighed 304 pounds. Today I weigh 237 pounds. I >had two >plateau periods of about three weeks each with no loss during that time. In >the first instance >the three week period was followed by a six pound weight loss and my most >recent plateau >was followed by a 9 pound weight loss. So what's that..about 67 pounds in >less than four >months? Hmmm. Not bad, huh? > >But more importantly: 1. My acid reflux is gone. I had it for 20 years and >took medication >every day before surgery. I had three incidents after surgery but since the >second month, >reflux is a distant memory. 2. I have been off blood pressure medication >since surgery. My >blood pressure is normal. 3. I sleep all night. I do not wake up gasping >for air. I do not need >three or more pillows or a recliner to sleep in. 4. I am off arthritis >medication. 5. I have had >three headaches for which I took Vioxx. I got at least three a week prior >to surgery and they >were so bad I went to bed. The three I have had were not enjoyable..but not >bad enough to >go to bed. 5. I fit in airplane seats (Ask Amy P, we both fit). And I fit >in restaurant booths. >And I fit in those white plastic lawn chair thingies. 6. I can move >freely, walk up and down >steps the way normal people do and I eat and feel satisfied when I'm done. >7. The guilt over >what I eat, how much, what it contains, yadda yadda yadda is gone. I no >longer worry. I just >eat and sooner or later the weight will come off. > >The down side? I have to be nearer to a bathroom that I did before surgery. >My trips are >now very frequent compared to the past. I am currently experimenting with >my dietary >choices, supplements, etc. to see if I can improve this annoying problem. >This is the only >downside from my perspective. Bathroom problems and I were not strangers >before surgery >either...so this is ok. I can handle this. I can work through this by >making some different >choices with food. > >I haven't responded much to what's been going on. Like I said before, when >I was a kid and >my sister or a friend said stuff I didn't want to hear I used to hum really >loud and then if they >still didn't shut up I'd sing LA LA LA LA LA really loudly. So...I'm still >here, in land, >loving my new life, singing LA LA LA LA LA and just being grateful for each >new day and >for the quality that this surgery has given to this one little (formerly >big) life in southern >land! > >Flo from land >67 pounds of ugly fat gone forever! >At 237 pounds....5 pounds more than the day I got married in 1966! >Going to my 40th class reunion in October the thinnest I've showed myself >at a reunion since >the 1965 one (we have them every five years and I've never missed one!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2000 Report Share Posted September 25, 2000 --WTG Flo!!! have fun at that class reunion and knock their socks off! - In MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com, florence@u... wrote: > Hi Guys: > > I had my MGB on May 31 and weighed 304 pounds. Today I weigh 237 pounds. I had two > plateau periods of about three weeks each with no loss during that time. In the first instance > the three week period was followed by a six pound weight loss and my most recent plateau > was followed by a 9 pound weight loss. So what's that..about 67 pounds in less than four > months? Hmmm. Not bad, huh? > > But more importantly: 1. My acid reflux is gone. I had it for 20 years and took medication > every day before surgery. I had three incidents after surgery but since the second month, > reflux is a distant memory. 2. I have been off blood pressure medication since surgery. My > blood pressure is normal. 3. I sleep all night. I do not wake up gasping for air. I do not need > three or more pillows or a recliner to sleep in. 4. I am off arthritis medication. 5. I have had > three headaches for which I took Vioxx. I got at least three a week prior to surgery and they > were so bad I went to bed. The three I have had were not enjoyable..but not bad enough to > go to bed. 5. I fit in airplane seats (Ask Amy P, we both fit). And I fit in restaurant booths. > And I fit in those white plastic lawn chair thingies. 6. I can move freely, walk up and down > steps the way normal people do and I eat and feel satisfied when I'm done. 7. The guilt over > what I eat, how much, what it contains, yadda yadda yadda is gone. I no longer worry. I just > eat and sooner or later the weight will come off. > > The down side? I have to be nearer to a bathroom that I did before surgery. My trips are > now very frequent compared to the past. I am currently experimenting with my dietary > choices, supplements, etc. to see if I can improve this annoying problem. This is the only > downside from my perspective. Bathroom problems and I were not strangers before surgery > either...so this is ok. I can handle this. I can work through this by making some different > choices with food. > > I haven't responded much to what's been going on. Like I said before, when I was a kid and > my sister or a friend said stuff I didn't want to hear I used to hum really loud and then if they > still didn't shut up I'd sing LA LA LA LA LA really loudly. So...I'm still here, in land, > loving my new life, singing LA LA LA LA LA and just being grateful for each new day and > for the quality that this surgery has given to this one little (formerly big) life in southern > land! > > Flo from land > 67 pounds of ugly fat gone forever! > At 237 pounds....5 pounds more than the day I got married in 1966! > Going to my 40th class reunion in October the thinnest I've showed myself at a reunion since > the 1965 one (we have them every five years and I've never missed one!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2000 Report Share Posted September 25, 2000 In a message dated 9/25/2000 5:48:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DEEDLE10@... writes: << I would like to get onto the post-op list if anyone knows how to do this and can instruct me i'd sure appreciate it. I wish you continued success on your journey. in Fl >> Hi , I think to get on the post op list you go to egroups.com then type mgb in the search bar, a page should open showing the different mgb groups, click on mgb post op, when it opens in the upper right hand corner there should be a place to click on that says subscribe, I think when that opens you just fill out info and send. I know a lot have said that Dr. R has to approve it, so it could be a few days before you get conformation that you've been approved. Hope this helps and if I have it wrong anyone, please jump in and correct me. I hope you're still feeling well!!! Cathy Morrow in Lenoir, NC BMI 42 A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2000 Report Share Posted September 25, 2000 Flo, It is so good to see you post again. I have been really down because I'm about two months out and have only lost 30 lbs, not an ounce in the last two weeks, and I have walked 14 miles just last week. Your posts just pick me up. Thank you. kay RE: My Update > Hi Guys: > > I had my MGB on May 31 and weighed 304 pounds. Today I weigh 237 pounds. I had two > plateau periods of about three weeks each with no loss during that time. In the first instance > the three week period was followed by a six pound weight loss and my most recent plateau > was followed by a 9 pound weight loss. So what's that..about 67 pounds in less than four > months? Hmmm. Not bad, huh? > > But more importantly: 1. My acid reflux is gone. I had it for 20 years and took medication > every day before surgery. I had three incidents after surgery but since the second month, > reflux is a distant memory. 2. I have been off blood pressure medication since surgery. My > blood pressure is normal. 3. I sleep all night. I do not wake up gasping for air. I do not need > three or more pillows or a recliner to sleep in. 4. I am off arthritis medication. 5. I have had > three headaches for which I took Vioxx. I got at least three a week prior to surgery and they > were so bad I went to bed. The three I have had were not enjoyable..but not bad enough to > go to bed. 5. I fit in airplane seats (Ask Amy P, we both fit). And I fit in restaurant booths. > And I fit in those white plastic lawn chair thingies. 6. I can move freely, walk up and down > steps the way normal people do and I eat and feel satisfied when I'm done. 7. The guilt over > what I eat, how much, what it contains, yadda yadda yadda is gone. I no longer worry. I just > eat and sooner or later the weight will come off. > > The down side? I have to be nearer to a bathroom that I did before surgery. My trips are > now very frequent compared to the past. I am currently experimenting with my dietary > choices, supplements, etc. to see if I can improve this annoying problem. This is the only > downside from my perspective. Bathroom problems and I were not strangers before surgery > either...so this is ok. I can handle this. I can work through this by making some different > choices with food. > > I haven't responded much to what's been going on. Like I said before, when I was a kid and > my sister or a friend said stuff I didn't want to hear I used to hum really loud and then if they > still didn't shut up I'd sing LA LA LA LA LA really loudly. So...I'm still here, in land, > loving my new life, singing LA LA LA LA LA and just being grateful for each new day and > for the quality that this surgery has given to this one little (formerly big) life in southern > land! > > Flo from land > 67 pounds of ugly fat gone forever! > At 237 pounds....5 pounds more than the day I got married in 1966! > Going to my 40th class reunion in October the thinnest I've showed myself at a reunion since > the 1965 one (we have them every five years and I've never missed one!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2000 Report Share Posted September 25, 2000 : I was afraid to eat too. I don't know what I thought would happen, but I was afraid to eat. It takes time. Eventually you'll be hungry and you'll want to eat and you won't be afraid! Use this link to get to the right page and click subscribe. I think this will work. If not, let us know and someone who know what they're talking about will walk you through this. http://www.egroups.com/group/MGB-PostOp Flo from land > ** Original Subject: RE: My Update > ** > > ** Original Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:44:50 -0600 > ** Original Message follows... > > Way to Go Flo !!! > > > Your success is wonderful ! I will say that T's website was the first > thing I read when I came home from surgery 9/13 (not a good thing to see) I > had my freaking out period and now I think i'm getting better...the first > thing I did to begin this mental healing is to get off this MGB-TRUTH list, > It was more than I wanted to read, and I left my surgery in the hands of > God, I will leave my future in His hands as well. I believe that more than > anything the human mind is extremly strong, and if you constantly think bad > and negative things...then you will " will " those things to happen. So I am > now aware of what to tell my PCP to watch for signs for and thats it...i'm > going to focus on me and my new health body. I am not even 2 weeks post op > and am already losing so much. I hope to be where you are in four months. > I am afraid to eat, i've tried some mashed potatoes, and i'm still just > scared to eat anything that's not liquid. > > I would like to get onto the post-op list if anyone knows how to do this and > can instruct me i'd sure appreciate it. > > I wish you continued success on your journey. > > in Fl > > > > > > > >From: florence@... > >Reply-To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com > >To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com > >Subject: RE: My Update > >Date: 24 Sep 2000 23:21:06 -0500 > > > >Hi Guys: > > > >I had my MGB on May 31 and weighed 304 pounds. Today I weigh 237 pounds. I > >had two > >plateau periods of about three weeks each with no loss during that time. In > >the first instance > >the three week period was followed by a six pound weight loss and my most > >recent plateau > >was followed by a 9 pound weight loss. So what's that..about 67 pounds in > >less than four > >months? Hmmm. Not bad, huh? > > > >But more importantly: 1. My acid reflux is gone. I had it for 20 years and > >took medication > >every day before surgery. I had three incidents after surgery but since the > >second month, > >reflux is a distant memory. 2. I have been off blood pressure medication > >since surgery. My > >blood pressure is normal. 3. I sleep all night. I do not wake up gasping > >for air. I do not need > >three or more pillows or a recliner to sleep in. 4. I am off arthritis > >medication. 5. I have had > >three headaches for which I took Vioxx. I got at least three a week prior > >to surgery and they > >were so bad I went to bed. The three I have had were not enjoyable..but not > >bad enough to > >go to bed. 5. I fit in airplane seats (Ask Amy P, we both fit). And I fit > >in restaurant booths. > >And I fit in those white plastic lawn chair thingies. 6. I can move > >freely, walk up and down > >steps the way normal people do and I eat and feel satisfied when I'm done. > >7. The guilt over > >what I eat, how much, what it contains, yadda yadda yadda is gone. I no > >longer worry. I just > >eat and sooner or later the weight will come off. > > > >The down side? I have to be nearer to a bathroom that I did before surgery. > >My trips are > >now very frequent compared to the past. I am currently experimenting with > >my dietary > >choices, supplements, etc. to see if I can improve this annoying problem. > >This is the only > >downside from my perspective. Bathroom problems and I were not strangers > >before surgery > >either...so this is ok. I can handle this. I can work through this by > >making some different > >choices with food. > > > >I haven't responded much to what's been going on. Like I said before, when > >I was a kid and > >my sister or a friend said stuff I didn't want to hear I used to hum really > >loud and then if they > >still didn't shut up I'd sing LA LA LA LA LA really loudly. So...I'm still > >here, in land, > >loving my new life, singing LA LA LA LA LA and just being grateful for each > >new day and > >for the quality that this surgery has given to this one little (formerly > >big) life in southern > >land! > > > >Flo from land > >67 pounds of ugly fat gone forever! > >At 237 pounds....5 pounds more than the day I got married in 1966! > >Going to my 40th class reunion in October the thinnest I've showed myself > >at a reunion since > >the 1965 one (we have them every five years and I've never missed one!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2000 Report Share Posted September 26, 2000 Thanks Flo ! I was going to ask how to get on the post-op list. I think...nope..I KNOW i've had more than I can take of this DrR Bashing ! I'm going to miss this group...but until it goes back to the loving, supportive, wonderfully funny group it used to be...I am afraid I will be leaving ..and going to the MGB-Florida, and MGB-Post-Op list. If anyone ever needs me..please just email me ! in Fl >From: florence@... >Reply-To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >Subject: RE: My Update >Date: 25 Sep 2000 20:59:43 -0500 > >: I was afraid to eat too. I don't know what I thought would happen, >but I was afraid to eat. It takes time. Eventually you'll be hungry and >you'll want to eat and you won't be afraid! > >Use this link to get to the right page and click subscribe. I think this >will work. If not, let us know and someone who know what they're talking >about will walk you through this. > >http://www.egroups.com/group/MGB-PostOp > >Flo from land > > > > > > ** Original Subject: RE: My Update > > ** > > > ** Original Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:44:50 -0600 > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > Way to Go Flo !!! > > > > > > Your success is wonderful ! I will say that T's website was the >first > > thing I read when I came home from surgery 9/13 (not a good thing to >see) I > > had my freaking out period and now I think i'm getting better...the >first > > thing I did to begin this mental healing is to get off this MGB-TRUTH >list, > > It was more than I wanted to read, and I left my surgery in the hands of > > God, I will leave my future in His hands as well. I believe that more >than > > anything the human mind is extremly strong, and if you constantly think >bad > > and negative things...then you will " will " those things to happen. So I >am > > now aware of what to tell my PCP to watch for signs for and thats >it...i'm > > going to focus on me and my new health body. I am not even 2 weeks >post op > > and am already losing so much. I hope to be where you are in four >months. > > I am afraid to eat, i've tried some mashed potatoes, and i'm still just > > scared to eat anything that's not liquid. > > > > I would like to get onto the post-op list if anyone knows how to do this >and > > can instruct me i'd sure appreciate it. > > > > I wish you continued success on your journey. > > > > in Fl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: florence@... > > >Reply-To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com > > >To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com > > >Subject: RE: My Update > > >Date: 24 Sep 2000 23:21:06 -0500 > > > > > >Hi Guys: > > > > > >I had my MGB on May 31 and weighed 304 pounds. Today I weigh 237 >pounds. I > > >had two > > >plateau periods of about three weeks each with no loss during that >time. In > > >the first instance > > >the three week period was followed by a six pound weight loss and my >most > > >recent plateau > > >was followed by a 9 pound weight loss. So what's that..about 67 pounds >in > > >less than four > > >months? Hmmm. Not bad, huh? > > > > > >But more importantly: 1. My acid reflux is gone. I had it for 20 years >and > > >took medication > > >every day before surgery. I had three incidents after surgery but since >the > > >second month, > > >reflux is a distant memory. 2. I have been off blood pressure >medication > > >since surgery. My > > >blood pressure is normal. 3. I sleep all night. I do not wake up >gasping > > >for air. I do not need > > >three or more pillows or a recliner to sleep in. 4. I am off arthritis > > >medication. 5. I have had > > >three headaches for which I took Vioxx. I got at least three a week >prior > > >to surgery and they > > >were so bad I went to bed. The three I have had were not enjoyable..but >not > > >bad enough to > > >go to bed. 5. I fit in airplane seats (Ask Amy P, we both fit). And I >fit > > >in restaurant booths. > > >And I fit in those white plastic lawn chair thingies. 6. I can move > > >freely, walk up and down > > >steps the way normal people do and I eat and feel satisfied when I'm >done. > > >7. The guilt over > > >what I eat, how much, what it contains, yadda yadda yadda is gone. I no > > >longer worry. I just > > >eat and sooner or later the weight will come off. > > > > > >The down side? I have to be nearer to a bathroom that I did before >surgery. > > >My trips are > > >now very frequent compared to the past. I am currently experimenting >with > > >my dietary > > >choices, supplements, etc. to see if I can improve this annoying >problem. > > >This is the only > > >downside from my perspective. Bathroom problems and I were not >strangers > > >before surgery > > >either...so this is ok. I can handle this. I can work through this by > > >making some different > > >choices with food. > > > > > >I haven't responded much to what's been going on. Like I said before, >when > > >I was a kid and > > >my sister or a friend said stuff I didn't want to hear I used to hum >really > > >loud and then if they > > >still didn't shut up I'd sing LA LA LA LA LA really loudly. So...I'm >still > > >here, in land, > > >loving my new life, singing LA LA LA LA LA and just being grateful for >each > > >new day and > > >for the quality that this surgery has given to this one little >(formerly > > >big) life in southern > > >land! > > > > > >Flo from land > > >67 pounds of ugly fat gone forever! > > >At 237 pounds....5 pounds more than the day I got married in 1966! > > >Going to my 40th class reunion in October the thinnest I've showed >myself > > >at a reunion since > > >the 1965 one (we have them every five years and I've never missed one!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2000 Report Share Posted September 26, 2000 Thanks Cathy ! hahaha...Flo just sent me the addy to go to the post-op list...I forgot I already asked !! Goes to show you how brainless I am right now ! I'm feeling wonderful ! You are still always in my prayers for your day ! in Fl >>>>> >Hi , > I think to get on the post op list you go to egroups.com then type mgb >in >the search bar, a page should open showing the different mgb groups, click >on >mgb post op, when it opens in the upper right hand corner there should be a >place to click on that says subscribe, I think when that opens you just >fill >out info and send. I know a lot have said that Dr. R has to approve it, so >it >could be a few days before you get conformation that you've been approved. >Hope this helps and if I have it wrong anyone, please jump in and correct >me. > >I hope you're still feeling well!!! > > Cathy Morrow in Lenoir, NC > BMI 42 >A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Hi Cary, I know that all of this is overwhelming. I just started the process myself end of Jan. Going through multiple consultations is not fun and finding out that I have to have 2 surgeries totally got me down. I also have an open bite and will be having a pallet expansion (SARPE) and a segmented Laforte 1 procedure to move the back of my lower jaw up and my part of my upper teeth a little higher as the surgeon thought my current smile was a little too gummy. The SARPE is being schedule for Sept. and I will have an expander put in (pre- braces). I will wear the expander for about 2 months and then braces for 1 - 1 1/2 years and then have the upper and possible lower depending if they think my lower jaw will swing forward enough. My orthodontist told me to take my time and think about all of this, after all I did live with my mouth for 32 years, and it won't hurt to take a few weeks to process through everything. My family and friends are supportive, but don't really understand why I am doing this because to them I look fine. Most people think its cosmetic or plastic surgery. Funny how its not an issue of looks, but wanting to bite food normally. Mainly for me I want my mouth to feel comfortable. My husband asked me how much I want to do this and I honestly answered more than anything. I want a normal bite and smile. That helped reassure me I was making the right decision. Does your orthodonist or oral surgeon have other patients who went through similar procedures? Do they have any after pictures to share? Anyone they can refer who would talk with you? My ortho had a former patient who contacted me and we talked about the procedures (her case was similar to mine). She was so happy with the result, she insisted that her picture go up on the smile board for everyone to see - so her picture was up there with all the younger kids. I had braces before, so I was not keen on having to get them again either. But I just keep thinking about how great it will be for my teeth to touch and how better I will feel and look. Each day you go forward think your one step closer to that end result and it will be worth it. And even if your doctors move quickly, remember that you have time to think about everything. Good luck on your consultation. Amy > After all of the information and help you all have given me, I thought > I'd give you all an update. > > I visited the Orthodontist I was referred to by my dentist on Monday, > June 27. She diagnosed an open bite, under bite and cross bite. I > was then referred to a Periodontist to check the health of my gums on > Tuesday, June 28. Except for a few minor concerns about gum health, > there wasn't anything that would stop me from going ahead with the > process. > > I was also referred to an Oral surgeon at my Orthodontist visit. I > was asked to come back to the Orthodontist office on Wednesday, June > 29 to have x-rays and panoramic x-rays done so that I would have them > available for the Oral Surgeon. Plus, due to a cancellation, my next > Orthodontist appointment was moved to Thursday, June 30; 3 weeks > sooner than what I was orginally scheduled for. > > I spent about 50 minutes at the Oral Surgeon's office on Thursday, > June 30. He poked, prodded, measured and checked everything on me. > After all of this, including an ECG, blood pressure test and pulse > taken, he told me everything that would need to be done. To my > surprise, after all of these years, he informed me that it was my > upper jaw that was the problem and not my lower jaw. The upper jaw > grew vertically in rear (posterior) and not outwards. He said I will > need the back of my jaw raised, the front of it lowered and the whole > thing moved outwards. He did not rule out possibly moving my lower > jaw back. > > Then he informed me that I will need to have surgery to remove my four > healthy wisdom teeth in the fall and an in-office procedure in the > near future to remove two upper bicuspids. I am not looking forward to > any of that. > > Later on that morning, I had another appointment at my Ortho's office > to get molds done, photos and a bite impression. Usually, it takes up > to 6 weeks for the molds to return. But, my Orthodonist requested > that they be back to her by this Thursday, July 7 at the latest. I'm > not real sure why she wants them back so quickly. I was then scheduled > for an hour long consultation and explanation of what she wants to do > for Tuesday, July 12. > > At this point, if all that was required was the surgery, I'd be all > for it. But, the two years of braces seems like an eternity and not > something I really want to do. I sincerely hope doing all of this > will be the right thing to do and worth while. > > Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Amy, Thanks for all of your advice and it's nice to hear from people going through the same things I am. Fortunately enough for me, I won't be needing a palette expander as far as I know right now. My orthodontist, whom I visit on July 12, will be explaining everything she wants to do with me. She has been expediting everything so far and would like to have the braces on me by the end of July. I feel the same way you do though about esthetics as it's not an issue of how it looks to me. Although, having my upper jaw match my lower jaw when all is said and done will definitely a bonus. At 34 I've been living with my jaw like this without thinking much about it. It's amazing how the human body adapts to things such as that. But, with all of the things I've been told and all the possible affects on my teeth and health that could occur if I don't get this fixed, it would be tough and silly not to do it now. To know now that I don't have to live with a sore jaw, no place to keep my tongue behind my top teeth, plus the simple fact of not being able to bite properly is something I don't have to live with. Plus, if I don't do it, how could I possibly tell my 4 year old son (who has inherited my jaw) that he should get it done? My orthodontist and oral surgeon have had many patients do this procedure. They've both shown me before and after pictures with outstanding results as far as I can see. I respect people who take pride in their work and from what I've seen, both take an immense amount of pride in what they have accomplished. I hope we can keep in contact as we both go through this over the next few years. It will be nice to share our experiences. Take care and good luck. Cary > > After all of the information and help you all have given me, I > thought > > I'd give you all an update. > > > > I visited the Orthodontist I was referred to by my dentist on > Monday, > > June 27. She diagnosed an open bite, under bite and cross bite. I > > was then referred to a Periodontist to check the health of my gums > on > > Tuesday, June 28. Except for a few minor concerns about gum health, > > there wasn't anything that would stop me from going ahead with the > > process. > > > > I was also referred to an Oral surgeon at my Orthodontist visit. I > > was asked to come back to the Orthodontist office on Wednesday, June > > 29 to have x-rays and panoramic x-rays done so that I would have > them > > available for the Oral Surgeon. Plus, due to a cancellation, my > next > > Orthodontist appointment was moved to Thursday, June 30; 3 weeks > > sooner than what I was orginally scheduled for. > > > > I spent about 50 minutes at the Oral Surgeon's office on Thursday, > > June 30. He poked, prodded, measured and checked everything on me. > > After all of this, including an ECG, blood pressure test and pulse > > taken, he told me everything that would need to be done. To my > > surprise, after all of these years, he informed me that it was my > > upper jaw that was the problem and not my lower jaw. The upper jaw > > grew vertically in rear (posterior) and not outwards. He said I > will > > need the back of my jaw raised, the front of it lowered and the > whole > > thing moved outwards. He did not rule out possibly moving my lower > > jaw back. > > > > Then he informed me that I will need to have surgery to remove my > four > > healthy wisdom teeth in the fall and an in-office procedure in the > > near future to remove two upper bicuspids. I am not looking forward > to > > any of that. > > > > Later on that morning, I had another appointment at my Ortho's > office > > to get molds done, photos and a bite impression. Usually, it takes > up > > to 6 weeks for the molds to return. But, my Orthodonist requested > > that they be back to her by this Thursday, July 7 at the latest. > I'm > > not real sure why she wants them back so quickly. I was then > scheduled > > for an hour long consultation and explanation of what she wants to > do > > for Tuesday, July 12. > > > > At this point, if all that was required was the surgery, I'd be all > > for it. But, the two years of braces seems like an eternity and not > > something I really want to do. I sincerely hope doing all of this > > will be the right thing to do and worth while. > > > > Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Hi Cary, I too have a 4 year old and she's got my high, narrow pallate too - I don't know if she will have the same issues though, her teeth are perfect right now. Orthodotics today are so much more advanced than when we were kids. Did you know they recommend kids see an orthodontist at age 8? I didn't see an orthodontist until I was 14 years old and of course my parents thought surgery was too risky. So I had 4 teeth removed and braces, but my smile was never perfect because my jaws never lined up correctly. I never thought much about it until recently when I started having my teeth shift and noticed that the open bite was more and more prominent. I don't have TMJ symptoms that I notice, but they did notice wearing on my back teeth. And it is annoying figuring out where to place your tongue - lol- isn't that so strange, because normally you never think about it until you are going to sleep or concious of it. I am glad you found good doctors. My orthodontist really cares about his patients and he's made time over lunch or after work for my visits. He's also good about being available for questions. My oral surgeon has done a lot of these surgeries, my ortho picked him because of the numbers. The OS is nice, but because he is highly recommended he is extremely busy. It makes it hard with questions, so I am glad this site is here. I don't think of questions to ask until well after the visit. Lets definitely keep in touch through this process - I am sure we will both need the support and good luck with your appointment on the 12th. (That's my birthday by the way - Happy 33!) Amy > > > After all of the information and help you all have given me, I > > thought > > > I'd give you all an update. > > > > > > I visited the Orthodontist I was referred to by my dentist on > > Monday, > > > June 27. She diagnosed an open bite, under bite and cross bite. I > > > was then referred to a Periodontist to check the health of my gums > > on > > > Tuesday, June 28. Except for a few minor concerns about gum health, > > > there wasn't anything that would stop me from going ahead with the > > > process. > > > > > > I was also referred to an Oral surgeon at my Orthodontist visit. I > > > was asked to come back to the Orthodontist office on Wednesday, June > > > 29 to have x-rays and panoramic x-rays done so that I would have > > them > > > available for the Oral Surgeon. Plus, due to a cancellation, my > > next > > > Orthodontist appointment was moved to Thursday, June 30; 3 weeks > > > sooner than what I was orginally scheduled for. > > > > > > I spent about 50 minutes at the Oral Surgeon's office on Thursday, > > > June 30. He poked, prodded, measured and checked everything on me. > > > After all of this, including an ECG, blood pressure test and pulse > > > taken, he told me everything that would need to be done. To my > > > surprise, after all of these years, he informed me that it was my > > > upper jaw that was the problem and not my lower jaw. The upper jaw > > > grew vertically in rear (posterior) and not outwards. He said I > > will > > > need the back of my jaw raised, the front of it lowered and the > > whole > > > thing moved outwards. He did not rule out possibly moving my lower > > > jaw back. > > > > > > Then he informed me that I will need to have surgery to remove my > > four > > > healthy wisdom teeth in the fall and an in-office procedure in the > > > near future to remove two upper bicuspids. I am not looking forward > > to > > > any of that. > > > > > > Later on that morning, I had another appointment at my Ortho's > > office > > > to get molds done, photos and a bite impression. Usually, it takes > > up > > > to 6 weeks for the molds to return. But, my Orthodonist requested > > > that they be back to her by this Thursday, July 7 at the latest. > > I'm > > > not real sure why she wants them back so quickly. I was then > > scheduled > > > for an hour long consultation and explanation of what she wants to > > do > > > for Tuesday, July 12. > > > > > > At this point, if all that was required was the surgery, I'd be all > > > for it. But, the two years of braces seems like an eternity and not > > > something I really want to do. I sincerely hope doing all of this > > > will be the right thing to do and worth while. > > > > > > Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Amy, I look at my 4 year old son and feel terrible that he has the bigger lower jaw and smaller upper one as my genes were obviously passed down to him. I sure hope he won't have to get surgery to correct his jaw. My ortho said the same thing you did about bringing him in when he's eight. I will definitely be doing that and I will not leave it as long as I was left. I had never seen an orthodontist until last week. No dentist I ever had thought it was necessary as my teeth are straight. There is no doubt I felt awfully old there during my three appointments so far. In regards to my tongue, I just thought it was big. Now I think all the time about where it is positioned. Although, I have always been very careful about keeping my mouth closed. If I don't, my tongue will hang out of my mouth as my jaw doesn't naturally stay closed. My orthodontist, oral surgeon, and periodontist work together as a team for patients like me. They only take on so many a year as patients like us take a little more time than regular orthodontist patients. I have a ton of questions I want to ask as well but usually freeze up and forget to ask them during appointments. Thank you for the thoughts and I hope all goes well as well on July 12. I'll let you know what happens as this is my last appointment before the braces are put on. Plus, I'll be getting two bicuspids removed over the next few weeks as well to make room on the top. If you are interested and if you chat online at all, I'd love to chat while we go through this experience together. Whatever messenger you use, I have an ID, so whatever is convenient for you. Have a great birthday on the 12th! Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Relax about your fouryear old. My dd lost two bottom molars and had a huge overbite (like I did) at the time, I brought her six months to the ortho...thinking for sure she won't have enough room for her adult teeth, they'd all crowd, she'd need a bsso. Well she is 11 and not only are they all perfectly straight, with enough room she probably won't even need braces! Miracles happen! And they can do much more when they are growing than when everything is 'set'...Here I was thinking my dd would be headgear queen! Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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