Re: Day 3 of Diet....First Formed Stool in 2 years!!!!!

[Guest guest]

,

You've got the right idea with mixing the cooked carrots into the hamburger

patty. You can do the same thing with green beans or spinach which are also in

the stage one veggie category. There's a zucchini casserole recipe in BTVC that

is very good. Take a look, and see if you think he'd try it. Personally, I'd

also put just a couple of carrots, green beans, or whatever you mix into his

meat on the plate. He might surprise you one day, and try a taste. You can

also mix in some veggie with finely chopped chicken, add the homemade mayo, and

make chicken nuggets. You can mix pureed veggies into almost any ground meat,

and they'll never know unless you put in too much. I know that some kids are

quite the detective, so you might have to start with just the tiniest amount of

veggie in the meat, and work your way up from there. I'm thrilled for you guys

with the progress you've been seeing.

Meleah

Day 3 of Diet....First Formed Stool in 2 years!!!!!

Hi Everyone -

Wanted to share some great news! Last night, Ben had his first formed

stool in two years! We couldn't believe it...it actually looked

normal, and my husband saw him doing it too. Ben looked like he

didn't know what was going on, like " wow, what's going on? This isn't

supposed to be so difficult! " LOL! We were so happy that I wanted to

frame it (sorry so graphic, but we are elated!) ;-)))) He has also

been so mellow and great behavior, that it is difficult to think this

is the same child living here! He has also had a great appetite,

although he wouldn't eat the homemade applesauce I made this morning!

And it was GOOD too! Darn! I am starting him on the Stage 1 today,

with the applesauce this morning. He is only drinking though this

morning 1/2 cider and 1/2 water. Seems ok with that, although a

little cranky as I'm sure he is hungry! I cooked some carrots, and

will attempt to mix some of those into his hamburger patty at lunch.

Any other suggestions for creative ideas for Stage 1? Also, how long

do you typically wait until going to Stage 1 with the nut butters?

Atleast then I can start with some " bread type " things that will make

him *happy*!

We are keeping fingers crossed at good times ahead..... ;-))) THIS

could be the exact thing Ben has needed all along. ;-)

Thanks much -

;-)))))

[Guest guest]

<<We were so happy that I wanted to

frame it (sorry so graphic, but we are elated!) ;-))))>>

That's why we call them TROPHIES around here!

Patti

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for the feedback! I really appreciate the cooking tips

too. Well......Ugggghhhh! I guess though I spoke too soon (as usual

with progress with Ben it seems). He was doing sooooo well until after

lunch. I had put carrots, not pureed, but mashed (our blender is in

route from Boulder...gets here tomorrow) and he couldn't get enough of

the hamburgers! Between him and his little sister (much smaller

amount), they ate 1lb of ground beef! I saw that the intro diet

said " no limits " , but what about for protein amounts? Anyway, about

30min-1hr after he ate, he started fussing, then pitching a fit to go

up for his nap. Started obsessing about his plastic " DVD's " (carries

them around with him). After we finally got him upstairs, he started

screaming this high pitched scream (like you stepped on a cat!) and

went absolutely nuts, kicking me, hitting, etc! I tried a bunch of

things, including the charcoal (but couldn't get him to drink

anything).

Sooooo, was it the carrots (only new thing he ate today)? Or has die-

off kicked in suddenly? One small stool was still formed before his

nap. Ugh, he was doing sooooo well too! He turned into devil boy just

like " that " . I have a hard time believeing that it was just a tanturm

b/c I took his DVD away for his nap. Did the same thing last night, and

didn't see THIS! He was fine with it on his past two " good " days. Any

thoughts here? What should I do next?

>

> <<We were so happy that I wanted to

> frame it (sorry so graphic, but we are elated!) ;-))))>>

>

>

> That's why we call them TROPHIES around here!

>

>

> Patti

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> <<We were so happy that I wanted to

> frame it (sorry so graphic, but we are elated!) ;-))))>>

>

Bronze it!

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

,

I don't think this is just nothing either. I'd agree that it sounds like either

die off or intolerance of the carrots, but I'm going to leave this to Patty,

Carol, Mimi, somebody else who has more experience.

Meleah

Re: Day 3 of Diet....First Formed Stool in 2 years!!!!!

Thanks so much for the feedback! I really appreciate the cooking tips

too. Well......Ugggghhhh! I guess though I spoke too soon (as usual

with progress with Ben it seems). He was doing sooooo well until after

lunch. I had put carrots, not pureed, but mashed (our blender is in

route from Boulder...gets here tomorrow) and he couldn't get enough of

the hamburgers! Between him and his little sister (much smaller

amount), they ate 1lb of ground beef! I saw that the intro diet

said " no limits " , but what about for protein amounts? Anyway, about

30min-1hr after he ate, he started fussing, then pitching a fit to go

up for his nap. Started obsessing about his plastic " DVD's " (carries

them around with him). After we finally got him upstairs, he started

screaming this high pitched scream (like you stepped on a cat!) and

went absolutely nuts, kicking me, hitting, etc! I tried a bunch of

things, including the charcoal (but couldn't get him to drink

anything).

Sooooo, was it the carrots (only new thing he ate today)? Or has die-

off kicked in suddenly? One small stool was still formed before his

nap. Ugh, he was doing sooooo well too! He turned into devil boy just

like " that " . I have a hard time believeing that it was just a tanturm

b/c I took his DVD away for his nap. Did the same thing last night, and

didn't see THIS! He was fine with it on his past two " good " days. Any

thoughts here? What should I do next?

>

> <<We were so happy that I wanted to

> frame it (sorry so graphic, but we are elated!) ;-))))>>

>

>

> That's why we call them TROPHIES around here!

>

>

> Patti

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Sooooo, was it the carrots (only new thing he ate today)? Or has die-

> off kicked in suddenly? One small stool was still formed before his

> nap. Ugh, he was doing sooooo well too! He turned into devil boy just

> like " that " . I have a hard time believeing that it was just a tanturm

> b/c I took his DVD away for his nap. Did the same thing last night, and

> didn't see THIS! He was fine with it on his past two " good " days. Any

> thoughts here? What should I do next?

>

>

>

>

It sounds like " die off " is under way. It's the storm before the calm as bad

bacteria throw a

massive temper tantrum because they haven't had THEIR favorite foods in three

days.

Hang tough. You are doing great!

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi !

My boys have been on the diet for almost six months and still do not tolerate

carrots unless they are pureed. Even then, I wonder if they digest them well.

I think, for some, carrots are harder to digest and if it doesn't digest

properly, it can make them feel unwell and show up in behavior. You might want

to try pureed acorn squash or butternut squash instead or make sure to peel the

carrots before cooking them and also puree.

Dana

Garrett and

SCD 5 1/2 months

Celiac, Developmental Delays

v_parker7 wrote:

Thanks so much for the feedback! I really appreciate the cooking tips

too. Well......Ugggghhhh! I guess though I spoke too soon (as usual

with progress with Ben it seems). He was doing sooooo well until after

lunch. I had put carrots, not pureed, but mashed (our blender is in

route from Boulder...gets here tomorrow) and he couldn't get enough of

the hamburgers! Between him and his little sister (much smaller

amount), they ate 1lb of ground beef! I saw that the intro diet

said " no limits " , but what about for protein amounts? Anyway, about

30min-1hr after he ate, he started fussing, then pitching a fit to go

up for his nap. Started obsessing about his plastic " DVD's " (carries

them around with him). After we finally got him upstairs, he started

screaming this high pitched scream (like you stepped on a cat!) and

went absolutely nuts, kicking me, hitting, etc! I tried a bunch of

things, including the charcoal (but couldn't get him to drink

anything).

Sooooo, was it the carrots (only new thing he ate today)? Or has die-

off kicked in suddenly? One small stool was still formed before his

nap. Ugh, he was doing sooooo well too! He turned into devil boy just

like " that " . I have a hard time believeing that it was just a tanturm

b/c I took his DVD away for his nap. Did the same thing last night, and

didn't see THIS! He was fine with it on his past two " good " days. Any

thoughts here? What should I do next?

>

> <<We were so happy that I wanted to

> frame it (sorry so graphic, but we are elated!) ;-))))>>

>

>

> That's why we call them TROPHIES around here!

>

>

> Patti

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, maybe I will hold off on carrots for a bit. I did buy a

butternut AND acron squash just yestreday at whole foods, so I might

try that next. I also got some organic spinach too, so maybe that

would work in the ground meat burgers too. Do you use a blender for

the puree, and then do you add water too?

If this is some die-off starting, about how long will it last? A few

days? Longer? So, is this the " first " die-off that everyone talks

about on the diet? Do you use the activated charcoal to help with

this? His DAN doc had already given him a bottle....Good n' Natural

Charcoal Capsules (activated) 260mg. Does anyone know if this brand

is legal for the SCD? Any other suggestions for getting him through

this? Do I need to alter what I am feeding him during this period, or

continue with Stage 1? Also, how long until I can introduce Stage 2,

aka nut butters?

Thanks -

;-)

>

> Hi !

>

> My boys have been on the diet for almost six months and still do

not tolerate carrots unless they are pureed. Even then, I wonder if

they digest them well. I think, for some, carrots are harder to

digest and if it doesn't digest properly, it can make them feel

unwell and show up in behavior. You might want to try pureed acorn

squash or butternut squash instead or make sure to peel the carrots

before cooking them and also puree.

>

> Dana

> Garrett and

> SCD 5 1/2 months

> Celiac, Developmental Delays

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does your bottle of activated charcoal list " additional " ingredients? Just

double check that for any illegals (the list on pecanbread.com under

" supplements " will give you the most common illegal supp additives).

It sure sounds like die-off to me.... and don't be alarmed if you see ups and

downs along the way. The general trend should be moving upward soon, but as the

bad guys finally give up the ghost, they excrete ALL the toxins they have left

to give. Some will hang on longer.... many months, possibly.... and that's why

some kids will go through additional die-off periods on down the road.

Patti

Re: Day 3 of Diet....First Formed Stool in 2 years!!!!!

Well, maybe I will hold off on carrots for a bit. I did buy a

butternut AND acron squash just yestreday at whole foods, so I might

try that next. I also got some organic spinach too, so maybe that

would work in the ground meat burgers too. Do you use a blender for

the puree, and then do you add water too?

If this is some die-off starting, about how long will it last? A few

days? Longer? So, is this the " first " die-off that everyone talks

about on the diet? Do you use the activated charcoal to help with

this? His DAN doc had already given him a bottle....Good n' Natural

Charcoal Capsules (activated) 260mg. Does anyone know if this brand

is legal for the SCD? Any other suggestions for getting him through

this? Do I need to alter what I am feeding him during this period, or

continue with Stage 1? Also, how long until I can introduce Stage 2,

aka nut butters?

Thanks -

;-)

>

> Hi !

>

> My boys have been on the diet for almost six months and still do

not tolerate carrots unless they are pureed. Even then, I wonder if

they digest them well. I think, for some, carrots are harder to

digest and if it doesn't digest properly, it can make them feel

unwell and show up in behavior. You might want to try pureed acorn

squash or butternut squash instead or make sure to peel the carrots

before cooking them and also puree.

>

> Dana

> Garrett and

> SCD 5 1/2 months

> Celiac, Developmental Delays

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree about the carrots . I have heard too many reports about kids

and adults not tolerating them. I believe that the carrots today are

different from the carrots that existed in the days of Dr Haas.

The very soft carrots that are thin and have green on top of them

might be a bit better.

Mimi

> Hi !

>

> My boys have been on the diet for almost six months and still do not

> tolerate carrots unless they are pureed. Even then, I wonder if they digest

> them well. I think, for some, carrots are harder to digest and if it

> doesn't digest properly, it can make them feel unwell and show up in

> behavior. You might want to try pureed acorn squash or butternut squash

> instead or make sure to peel the carrots before cooking them and also puree.

>

> Dana

> Garrett and

> SCD 5 1/2 months

> Celiac, Developmental Delays

>

> v_parker7 wrote:

> Thanks so much for the feedback! I really appreciate the cooking

> tips

> too. Well......Ugggghhhh! I guess though I spoke too soon (as usual

> with progress with Ben it seems). He was doing sooooo well until after

> lunch. I had put carrots, not pureed, but mashed (our blender is in

> route from Boulder...gets here tomorrow) and he couldn't get enough of

> the hamburgers! Between him and his little sister (much smaller

> amount), they ate 1lb of ground beef! I saw that the intro diet

> said " no limits " , but what about for protein amounts? Anyway, about

> 30min-1hr after he ate, he started fussing, then pitching a fit to go

> up for his nap. Started obsessing about his plastic " DVD's " (carries

> them around with him). After we finally got him upstairs, he started

> screaming this high pitched scream (like you stepped on a cat!) and

> went absolutely nuts, kicking me, hitting, etc! I tried a bunch of

> things, including the charcoal (but couldn't get him to drink

> anything).

>

> Sooooo, was it the carrots (only new thing he ate today)? Or has die-

> off kicked in suddenly? One small stool was still formed before his

> nap. Ugh, he was doing sooooo well too! He turned into devil boy just

> like " that " . I have a hard time believeing that it was just a tanturm

> b/c I took his DVD away for his nap. Did the same thing last night, and

> didn't see THIS! He was fine with it on his past two " good " days. Any

> thoughts here? What should I do next?

>

>

>

>

> >

> > <<We were so happy that I wanted to

> > frame it (sorry so graphic, but we are elated!) ;-))))>>

> >

> >

> > That's why we call them TROPHIES around here!

> >

> >

> > Patti

> >

> >

> >