Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Ok, don't kill the messenger. I found the third reference the most interesting because of the reference to probiotics (with the lack of bifidus) - which is directly related to the SCD http://www.manukahoneyusa.com/h-pylori.htm Dr. Molan of the Waikato University, New Zealand found in his over 20 years of manuka honey research, that Active Manuka Honey seems to naturally destroy staph aureus, streptococcus as well as h. pylori, the bacteria responsible for stomach ulcers! http://www.yourhealthbase.com/ulcer_drugs.htm Honey as such has long been known to alleviate dyspepsia and diarrhea and is a very effective wound dressing and antibacterial agent(29,30,31). Manuka honey, however, is unique in its ability to completely eradicate H. pylori and this effect is only found in honey from specific geographic areas(32). A preliminary clinical trial of Manuka honey showed that ulcer patients who took 20 g of honey four times daily, one hour before meals and at bedtime, experienced considerably less pain and discomfort than patients who took a honey with no antibacterial activity. Unfortunately, the preliminary trial had to be terminated early, but another trial is in the planning stage. The protocol of this trial will be modified by including a slice of bread with the honey in order to increase the retention time in the stomach(32). http://www.acu-cell.com/dis-hpy.html Following are some " Natural Remedies " that have been used with mixed results for H. Pylori: A 5% solution of " Manuka Honey " from New Zealand worked well in vitro to kill the bug, with almost two dozen studies backing up the claims, however I have yet to see a single patient ending up with an actual " cure " after taking Manuka Honey. There are also claims that pure Alcohol taken on an empty stomach early in the morning will kill H. Pylori. Only one of my patients tried that approach, and although the symptoms did indeed disappear for a while, they eventually returned as severe as before. Regular consumption of sulfur-containing sources such as Garlic, Onions, or MSM is supposed to be helpful for H. Pylori symptoms according to some sources. Similar claims are made for regular intake of Licorice and Cinnamon, larger amounts of Vitamin C, as well as Coconut oil, or spicy foods such as Hot (Chili) Peppers. All had shown to somewhat inhibit Helicobacter Pylori in various trials, but again, none of these have really proven to be effective in actual clinical settings on a long-term basis. Probiotic-types of remedies (friendly bacteria) consisting of Lactobacillus Acidophilus and Bifidus - although not a cure in themselves - are an important addition to any therapy for H. Pylori infection to help inhibit the bug, and to counteract any headaches, early-morning nausea, or general dyspepsia associated with low stomach acid alone, or following antibiotic therapy, with the acidophilus being best taken at bedtime. Some patients only tolerate the lactobacillus acidophilus, without the bifidus. -- Honey killing H. Pylori Honey will kill H. Pylori??? I've never heard of such a thing. Does anyone have any more info on this? I am wondering if this is why I have such a hard time with it. Maybe it's in there fighting all those h. pylori bugs. ~ Grammy Bauer wrote: > > HAVE H. PYLORI? HONEY WILL KILL IT: >*http://www4.wave.co.nz/~bennett/order.html >*** Uldry E-mail: @... > Uldry's Father in Switzerland makes the most wonderful creamed >honey; if you are lucky enough to find it, is simply wonderful! [E-mail: >diet@...?] > __________________________________________________________ Call friends with PC-to-PC calling -- FREE http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default aspx?locale=en-us & source=wlmailtagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Dearest One , Those were the words of Elaines and the website that she sent to us. Just passing on the information about this honey and killing H. Pylori. I do not know any more than this. Loving Care, Grammy Gay Coats wrote: Honey will kill H. Pylori??? I've never heard of such a thing. Does anyone have any more info on this? I am wondering if this is why I have such a hard time with it. Maybe it's in there fighting all those h. pylori bugs. ~ Grammy Bauer wrote: > > HAVE H. PYLORI? HONEY WILL KILL IT: >*http://www4.wave.co.nz/~bennett/order.html >*** Uldry E-mail: @... > Uldry's Father in Switzerland makes the most wonderful creamed >honey; if you are lucky enough to find it, is simply wonderful! [E-mail: >diet@...?] > __________________________________________________________ Call friends with PC-to-PC calling -- FREE http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us & source=wlmai\ ltagline --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Hey Jazz, I found this very interesting. Thanks so much for sending it along. ~ > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: <pecanbread > >Subject: Re: Honey killing H. Pylori >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:31:41 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) > >Ok, don't kill the messenger. > >I found the third reference the most interesting because of the reference >to >probiotics (with the lack of bifidus) - which is directly related to the >SCD > > >http://www.manukahoneyusa.com/h-pylori.htm > >Dr. Molan of the Waikato University, New Zealand found in his over 20 >years of manuka honey research, that Active Manuka Honey seems to >naturally destroy staph aureus, streptococcus as well as h. pylori, the >bacteria responsible for stomach ulcers! > >http://www.yourhealthbase.com/ulcer_drugs.htm > Honey as such has long been known to alleviate dyspepsia and diarrhea and >is a very effective wound dressing and antibacterial agent(29,30,31). >Manuka >honey, however, is unique in its ability to completely eradicate H. pylori >and this effect is only found in honey from specific geographic areas(32). >A >preliminary clinical trial of Manuka honey showed that ulcer patients who >took 20 g of honey four times daily, one hour before meals and at bedtime, >experienced considerably less pain and discomfort than patients who took a >honey with no antibacterial activity. Unfortunately, the preliminary trial >had to be terminated early, but another trial is in the planning stage. The >protocol of this trial will be modified by including a slice of bread with >the honey in order to increase the retention time in the stomach(32). > >http://www.acu-cell.com/dis-hpy.html > Following are some " Natural Remedies " that have been used with mixed >results for H. Pylori: > >A 5% solution of " Manuka Honey " from New Zealand worked well in vitro to >kill the bug, with almost >two dozen studies backing up the claims, however I have yet to see a single >patient ending up with an actual " cure " after taking Manuka Honey. There >are also claims that pure Alcohol taken on an empty stomach early in the >morning will kill H. Pylori. Only one of my patients tried that approach, >and although the symptoms did indeed disappear for a while, they eventually >returned as severe as before. > >Regular consumption of sulfur-containing sources such as Garlic, Onions, or >MSM is supposed to be helpful for H. Pylori symptoms according to some >sources. Similar claims are made for regular intake of Licorice and >Cinnamon, larger amounts of Vitamin C, as well as Coconut oil, or spicy >foods such as Hot (Chili) Peppers. All had shown to somewhat inhibit >Helicobacter Pylori in various trials, but again, none of these have really >proven to be effective in actual clinical settings on a long-term basis. > >Probiotic-types of remedies (friendly bacteria) consisting of Lactobacillus >Acidophilus and Bifidus >- although not a cure in themselves - are an important addition to any >therapy for H. Pylori infection to help inhibit the bug, and to counteract >any headaches, early-morning nausea, or general dyspepsia associated with >low stomach acid alone, or following antibiotic therapy, with the >acidophilus being best taken at bedtime. Some patients only tolerate the >lactobacillus acidophilus, without the bifidus. > >-- Honey killing H. Pylori > > > >Honey will kill H. Pylori??? I've never heard of such a thing. Does anyone >have any more info on this? I am wondering if this is why I have such a >hard > >time with it. Maybe it's in there fighting all those h. pylori bugs. > >~ > >Grammy Bauer wrote: > > > > HAVE H. PYLORI? HONEY WILL KILL IT: > >*http://www4.wave.co.nz/~bennett/order.html > >*** Uldry E-mail: @... > > Uldry's Father in Switzerland makes the most wonderful creamed > >honey; if you are lucky enough to find it, is simply wonderful! [E-mail: > >diet@...?] > > > >__________________________________________________________ >Call friends with PC-to-PC calling -- FREE >http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default >aspx?locale=en-us & source=wlmailtagline > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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