Re: Side effects of the SCD

[Guest guest]

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> My wife and I recently implemented the SCD with diary for our 14

year old son who may have

> Crohn's Disease. He has been on the diet for only 2 days and this

evening he vomiited

> several times and he has not vomitted for months, nor has he been

sick. He also has

> Aspergers.

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> Is anyone aware of this side effect, given that he has been on the

diet for 2 days.

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Not to be gross, but what kind of vomit was it?

I ask b/c before we did SCD I removed a fair portion of Glenn's GF

grain intake (used just home-soaked and ground amaranth and quinoa).

Two days after this he had several bouts of vomiting, but he was

not " sick " (ie acted fine, would then just surprise himself by

throwing up. We saw the same thing a few days into a round of

diflucan, flagyl and nystatin several months later.

The vomitus was a weird greyish color, and did not have that

characteristic " vomit " smell. More like old bread.

My theory was a big ol' yeast/biocrap die off.

Of course, depending on where you live there is now a nasty gut bug

going around, and anytime you change a kid's state of physiology

(even for the better) you render them briefly more susceptible to

the bug du jour. jmo

-christine

-glenn scd+ since 2/05

[Guest guest]

Nausea is very common in the very beginning of SCD. Some people do report

vomiting. If there has been an overgrowth of bad bacteria in his gut, that are

causing his GI symptoms, you can expect that bacteria is now dying.... and as

it does that, it gives off toxins that the body has to deal with. He may feel

pretty crummy for a few days or longer.... achey, fluish, very tired. All of

those symptoms are common. Soaking in a tub with epsom salts may help.

Patti

Side effects of the SCD

My wife and I recently implemented the SCD with diary for our 14 year old son

who may have

Crohn's Disease. He has been on the diet for only 2 days and this evening he

vomiited

several times and he has not vomitted for months, nor has he been sick. He

also has

Aspergers.

Is anyone aware of this side effect, given that he has been on the diet for 2

days.

[Guest guest]

This child is HEALING. Congratulations. I don't think it's an allergic reaction.

I think it's die-off. Those who see it early on, have only good signs of

recovery. The vomit is the body purging out the toxins. Hang in there and let us

know when you see better cognition. We were right where you are now. Good luck &

God Bless!! Jenn & K

Side effects of the SCD

My wife and I recently implemented the SCD with diary for our 14 year old son

who may have

Crohn's Disease. He has been on the diet for only 2 days and this evening he

vomiited

several times and he has not vomitted for months, nor has he been sick. He

also has

Aspergers.

Is anyone aware of this side effect, given that he has been on the diet for 2

days.

[Guest guest]

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> >

> > My wife and I recently implemented the SCD with diary for our 14

> year old son who may have

> > Crohn's Disease. He has been on the diet for only 2 days and this

> evening he vomiited

> > several times and he has not vomitted for months, nor has he been

> sick. He also has

> > Aspergers.

> >

> > Is anyone aware of this side effect, given that he has been on the

> diet for 2 days.

> >

>

> Not to be gross, but what kind of vomit was it?

>

> I ask b/c before we did SCD I removed a fair portion of Glenn's GF

> grain intake (used just home-soaked and ground amaranth and quinoa).

> Two days after this he had several bouts of vomiting, but he was

> not " sick " (ie acted fine, would then just surprise himself by

> throwing up. We saw the same thing a few days into a round of

> diflucan, flagyl and nystatin several months later.

>

> The vomitus was a weird greyish color, and did not have that

> characteristic " vomit " smell. More like old bread.

>

> My theory was a big ol' yeast/biocrap die off.

>

> Of course, depending on where you live there is now a nasty gut bug

> going around, and anytime you change a kid's state of physiology

> (even for the better) you render them briefly more susceptible to

> the bug du jour. jmo

> -christine

> -glenn scd+ since 2/05

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi rowland7254,

> My wife and I recently implemented the SCD with diary for our 14

year old son who may have

> Crohn's Disease. He has been on the diet for only 2 days and this

evening he vomiited

> several times and he has not vomitted for months, nor has he been

sick. He also has

> Aspergers.

>

> Is anyone aware of this side effect, given that he has been on the

diet for 2 days.

Some do have vomiting when the start the diet. It seems to be a part

of the die off reaction. The body " clearing the decks " -clearing out

harmful microbes and their metabolites. The by products can cause a

number of different die off symptoms - lethargy, diarrhea, vomiting,

headaches, sleepiness, increased urination etc. Many people have

found that epsom salt baths and/or activated charcoal help. see

http://pecanbread.com/badreaction.html and

http://pecanbread.com/difficulties.html#initial

Did you start with the introductory diet? It is in BTVC and listed

at:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/beginners.htm

What type of dairy did you use?

What is he eating now?

If the vomiting continues make sure he keeps his electrolytes up with

either diluted legal juices and/or the electrolyte recipe at

http://pecanbread.com/recipes/electrolytedrink.html

ELECTROLYTE DRINK

from the LI Listserve

1 quart boiled water

2 tbsp. honey

1/4 tsp. of salt

1/4 tsp.baking soda

Can be kept in refrigerator for 24 hours.

After that, a new batch should be made.

Let us know if there is no improvement within a day or so.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of emily and

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jen & K. Your confirmation of the " die-off " was very

reassuring and comforting. Thank you for acknowledging our post! It

was a tough night to say the least, however since early Friday, our

son has only experienced a few stomach achs and prior to the SCD diet,

he had many each day. We see him blossoming before our eyes...his

skin is clearer, his color is coming back and so is his appetite.

Thanks again. & Barbara

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> This child is HEALING. Congratulations. I don't think it's an

allergic reaction. I think it's die-off. Those who see it early on,

have only good signs of recovery. The vomit is the body purging out

the toxins. Hang in there and let us know when you see better

cognition. We were right where you are now. Good luck & God Bless!!

Jenn & K

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> My wife and I recently implemented the SCD with diary for our 14

year old son who may have

> Crohn's Disease. He has been on the diet for only 2 days and this

evening he vomiited

> several times and he has not vomitted for months, nor has he been

sick. He also has

> Aspergers.

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> Is anyone aware of this side effect, given that he has been on the

diet for 2 days.

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[Guest guest]

Yeah! For , Barb & son!! Many will tell you after a certain age, healing is

unobtainable(as far as ASD) but, we all see it first hand on SCD! Jenn & K

Side effects of the SCD

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> My wife and I recently implemented the SCD with diary for our 14

year old son who may have

> Crohn's Disease. He has been on the diet for only 2 days and this

evening he vomiited

> several times and he has not vomitted for months, nor has he been

sick. He also has

> Aspergers.

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> Is anyone aware of this side effect, given that he has been on the

diet for 2 days.

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