Re: Adults with die off question!

[Guest guest]

If she's only been on SCD for 10 days, I would guess she is still processing

toxins from die-off. Is she using SCD yogurt? Or taking acidophilus as a

supplement? She really needs to repopulate her gut with good flora.

The husband's itchiness would undoubtedly be due to die-off as well, if he's

been on SCD the same length of time. They need to try soaking in epsom salts

baths.... stay hydrated and make sure they're getting the probiotics in. And

they need to be patient. If there was a lot of bacterial overgrowth and

inflammation.... and parasites, too.... then there's been a lot of damage done,

which won't heal overnight. Patience, and rest.

Patti

Adults with die off question!

A friend of mine went on SCD for weight loss. She also has a history of IBS

and parasites, though went through a cleanse a couple of months ago and said her

IBS symptoms all but disappeared, but then started having constipation and

pain... anyway, she went on SCD 10 days or so ago and can't get past being

queasy and ill feeling though. She is not cheating at all... she put her dh on

it who has colitis and eventually wants her autistic kids on it but she is

thinking the die off symptoms should have subsided by now - anyone have

experience with this? She is losing weight, has no more constipation and says

her skin is glowing and otherwise has a lot of energy except for this queasy

feeling that is debilitating and won't seem to go away.

I guess her dh is itchy all over which I assume is yeast? But no queasiness...

Thanks in advance!

Robbie

[Guest guest]

I'm 3 weeks SCD & still feeling die off symptoms, sometimes worse

then other times. We just started the yogurt too so I'm sure that

will contribute.

My kiddos & I seem a bit itchier too as part of the die off.

Michele

Me + 4 kiddos -SCD 3 weeks

EB/CFS, candida, ASD, sensory disorders, food allergies

>

> If she's only been on SCD for 10 days, I would guess she is still

processing toxins from die-off. Is she using SCD yogurt? Or taking

acidophilus as a supplement? She really needs to repopulate her gut

with good flora.

>

> The husband's itchiness would undoubtedly be due to die-off as

well, if he's been on SCD the same length of time. They need to try

soaking in epsom salts baths.... stay hydrated and make sure

they're getting the probiotics in. And they need to be patient. If

there was a lot of bacterial overgrowth and inflammation.... and

parasites, too.... then there's been a lot of damage done, which

won't heal overnight. Patience, and rest.

>

> Patti

>

> Adults with die off question!

>

>

> A friend of mine went on SCD for weight loss. She also has a

history of IBS and parasites, though went through a cleanse a couple

of months ago and said her IBS symptoms all but disappeared, but

then started having constipation and pain... anyway, she went on SCD

10 days or so ago and can't get past being queasy and ill feeling

though. She is not cheating at all... she put her dh on it who has

colitis and eventually wants her autistic kids on it but she is

thinking the die off symptoms should have subsided by now - anyone

have experience with this? She is losing weight, has no more

constipation and says her skin is glowing and otherwise has a lot of

energy except for this queasy feeling that is debilitating and won't

seem to go away.

>

> I guess her dh is itchy all over which I assume is yeast? But no

queasiness...

>

> Thanks in advance!

>

> Robbie

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> A friend of mine went on SCD for weight loss. She also has a history of IBS

and

parasites, though went through a cleanse a couple of months ago and said her IBS

symptoms all but disappeared, but then started having constipation and pain...

anyway,

she went on SCD 10 days or so ago and can't get past being queasy and ill

feeling though.

She is not cheating at all... she put her dh on it who has colitis and

eventually wants her

autistic kids on it but she is thinking the die off symptoms should have

subsided by now -

anyone have experience with this? She is losing weight, has no more

constipation and

says her skin is glowing and otherwise has a lot of energy except for this

queasy feeling

that is debilitating and won't seem to go away.

>

> I guess her dh is itchy all over which I assume is yeast? But no

queasiness...

>

> Thanks in advance!

>

> Robbie

SCD is not a weight loss diet. I'll bet she is not having enough carbs.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Actually, she is devouring the carbs since she was low carb for so long - she

thinks she had serious malabsorption issues which caused her metabolism to be

faulty as since she was so extreme low carb she should have been losing weight.

She says after 10 days her jeans are falling off of her but she refuses to weigh

herself. She's made up some killer recipes, too - all have fruit and/or honey

in them. I'm hoping she'll let me share some of them as she really has a talent

for making up recipes. I know I certainly do NOT have that gift.

My dh lost 45 lbs on SCD and had to start cheating to keep from losing more. In

his case I think he could have done more carbs but he is not a big fruit person

so he just kept losing weight. He is still 80% SCD but really only did it to

support the kids who are on it for digestive issues. He said his blood pressure

normalized for the first time since I've known him and he slept better while

SCD.

On the other hand, my kids are 100% legal SCD and have been for 2 yrs and have a

wonderfully healthy weight - not skinny at all, not fat - just perfect.

Robbie

Re: Adults with die off question!

>

> A friend of mine went on SCD for weight loss. She also has a history of IBS

and

parasites, though went through a cleanse a couple of months ago and said her

IBS

symptoms all but disappeared, but then started having constipation and pain...

anyway,

she went on SCD 10 days or so ago and can't get past being queasy and ill

feeling though.

She is not cheating at all... she put her dh on it who has colitis and

eventually wants her

autistic kids on it but she is thinking the die off symptoms should have

subsided by now -

anyone have experience with this? She is losing weight, has no more

constipation and

says her skin is glowing and otherwise has a lot of energy except for this

queasy feeling

that is debilitating and won't seem to go away.

>

> I guess her dh is itchy all over which I assume is yeast? But no

queasiness...

>

> Thanks in advance!

>

> Robbie

SCD is not a weight loss diet. I'll bet she is not having enough carbs.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

.

[Guest guest]

> >

> > A friend of mine went on SCD for weight loss.

>>> snipped

[Guest guest]

>> she is devouring the carbs <<

>>>She's made up some killer recipes, too - all have fruit and/or honey

in them<<<

I don't understand why this happens with some people and not with

others. I know that SCD is not for weight loss..my main reason of

course is all my digestive and health problems. But because I need to

lose some weight and also have no choice but to be SCD I am interested

in the weight loss part as well..since I will be SCD for the rest of my

life. They need to go hand and hand I think.

I barely eat carbs only because they bother my stomach. Only cooked

veggies and yogurt is the carbs I get. I read all these posts about

people who eat and eat everything SCD they want and lose and lose until

their desired weight. I haven't lost a pound since I started. Dosen't

make sense to me at all.

Ah well..at least I know I'm healing

IBS-C 7.5 yrs, SCD 8 months

[Guest guest]

I haven't lost a pound either; same struggle but it's early on for

me too. I hope as I heal maybe the weight will come off easier.

Michele

>

> >> she is devouring the carbs <<

> >>>She's made up some killer recipes, too - all have fruit and/or

honey

> in them<<<

>

> I don't understand why this happens with some people and not with

> others. I know that SCD is not for weight loss..my main reason of

> course is all my digestive and health problems. But because I need

to

> lose some weight and also have no choice but to be SCD I am

interested

> in the weight loss part as well..since I will be SCD for the rest

of my

> life. They need to go hand and hand I think.

> I barely eat carbs only because they bother my stomach. Only

cooked

> veggies and yogurt is the carbs I get. I read all these posts

about

> people who eat and eat everything SCD they want and lose and lose

until

> their desired weight. I haven't lost a pound since I started.

Dosen't

> make sense to me at all.

> Ah well..at least I know I'm healing

>

>

> IBS-C 7.5 yrs, SCD 8 months

>

[Guest guest]

>> A friend of mine went on SCD for weight loss. She also has a history of

IBS and parasites, though went through a cleanse a couple of months ago and

said her IBS symptoms all but disappeared, but then started having

constipation and pain... anyway, she went on SCD 10 days or so ago and

can't get past being queasy and ill feeling though. She is not cheating at

all... she put her dh on it who has colitis and eventually wants her

autistic kids on it but she is thinking the die off symptoms should have

subsided by now - anyone have experience with this? She is losing weight,

has no more constipation and says her skin is glowing and otherwise has a

lot of energy except for this queasy feeling that is debilitating and won't

seem to go away. <<

Robbie,

Queasy stomach could actually be part of the die off symptoms -- and

depending on how bad her gut dysbiosis is/was, it could take more than ten

days.

SCD isn't a weight loss or weight gain diet. It's about normalizing your

weight. Shifting your digestion from RUMEN digestion, where the bacteria do

everything (like in a cow's 4th stomach) to HUMAN, where we do the work

requires an astonishing amount of energy, so weight loss isn't uncommon,

even for those who don't want or need to lose some. Once the switch is made

-- and it can take months -- she may reach a more equitable plateau.

That she says she has lots of energy and is glowing is marvelous!

What I suggest she do is keep a food diary with some of that new-found

energy. And be sure to note when she has the queasy feeling so it may be

possible to track what food or foods isn't agreeing with her.

Uhm.... I don't suppose she could be pregnant? SCD has that effect on women

of child-bearing age with appropriate opportunities.... that could account

for the queasyness.

-- Marilyn (New Orleans, Louisiana, USA)

Undiagnosed IBS 25 Years, SCD Five Years

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

>

> >> she is devouring the carbs <<

> >>>She's made up some killer recipes, too - all have fruit and/or honey

> in them<<<

>

> I don't understand why this happens with some people and not with

> others. I know that SCD is not for weight loss..my main reason of

> course is all my digestive and health problems. But because I need to

> lose some weight and also have no choice but to be SCD I am interested

> in the weight loss part as well..since I will be SCD for the rest of my

> life. They need to go hand and hand I think.

> I barely eat carbs only because they bother my stomach. Only cooked

> veggies and yogurt is the carbs I get. I read all these posts about

> people who eat and eat everything SCD they want and lose and lose until

> their desired weight. I haven't lost a pound since I started. Dosen't

> make sense to me at all.

> Ah well..at least I know I'm healing

People metabolize differently. If I don't exercise my weight goes up and yet

Elaine wasn't

supportive of vigorous exercise. She worried it could be stressful to the

digestive system.

There is no " weight loss part " to SCD because it was never created for weight

loss.

However there are things you can do which would be to moderate calorie dense

foods, use

more fish and chicken than red meat. You might want to look into the SCD Low

Carb

support group.

I must add that Elaine praised the healthy dietary fats as important nutrition.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

a drop of lugols iodine in about 1/8th of a glass of water with some

vinegar added before the lugols iodine is mixed in

the thyroid hormones control the rate at which the body burns energy,

its that simple

" iodine " in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3

> >

> > >> she is devouring the carbs <<

> > >>>She's made up some killer recipes, too - all have fruit and/or

honey

> > in them<<<

> >

> > I don't understand why this happens with some people and not with

> > others. I know that SCD is not for weight loss..my main reason of

> > course is all my digestive and health problems. But because I

need to

> > lose some weight and also have no choice but to be SCD I am

interested

> > in the weight loss part as well..since I will be SCD for the rest

of my

> > life. They need to go hand and hand I think.

> > I barely eat carbs only because they bother my stomach. Only

cooked

> > veggies and yogurt is the carbs I get. I read all these posts

about

> > people who eat and eat everything SCD they want and lose and lose

until

> > their desired weight. I haven't lost a pound since I started.

Dosen't

> > make sense to me at all.

> > Ah well..at least I know I'm healing

>

> People metabolize differently. If I don't exercise my weight goes

up and yet Elaine wasn't

> supportive of vigorous exercise. She worried it could be stressful

to the digestive system.

>

> There is no " weight loss part " to SCD because it was never created

for weight loss.

>

> However there are things you can do which would be to moderate

calorie dense foods, use

> more fish and chicken than red meat. You might want to look into

the SCD Low Carb

> support group.

>

> I must add that Elaine praised the healthy dietary fats as

important nutrition.

>

> Carol F.

> SCD 6 years, celiac

>

[Guest guest]

low thyroid/iodine?

thyroid hormones are the volume control switch for the metabolic rate

and lock directly into the cell nucleus to turn the rate up

a direct link to my thoughts and the practical application of iodine

http://tinyurl.com/ymard7

> >

> > >> she is devouring the carbs <<

> > >>>She's made up some killer recipes, too - all have fruit and/or

honey

> > in them<<<

> >

> > I don't understand why this happens with some people and not with

> > others. I know that SCD is not for weight loss..my main reason of

> > course is all my digestive and health problems. But because I

need to

> > lose some weight and also have no choice but to be SCD I am

interested

> > in the weight loss part as well..since I will be SCD for the rest

of my

> > life. They need to go hand and hand I think.

> > I barely eat carbs only because they bother my stomach. Only

cooked

> > veggies and yogurt is the carbs I get. I read all these posts

about

> > people who eat and eat everything SCD they want and lose and lose

until

> > their desired weight. I haven't lost a pound since I started.

Dosen't

> > make sense to me at all.

> > Ah well..at least I know I'm healing

>

> People metabolize differently. If I don't exercise my weight goes

up and yet Elaine wasn't

> supportive of vigorous exercise. She worried it could be stressful

to the digestive system.

>

> There is no " weight loss part " to SCD because it was never created

for weight loss.

>

> However there are things you can do which would be to moderate

calorie dense foods, use

> more fish and chicken than red meat. You might want to look into

the SCD Low Carb

> support group.

>

> I must add that Elaine praised the healthy dietary fats as

important nutrition.

>

> Carol F.

> SCD 6 years, celiac

>

[Guest guest]

,

Why do you put vinegar with the lugols? And how much?

Rhonda

Re: Adults with die off question!

a drop of lugols iodine in about 1/8th of a glass of water

with some

vinegar added before the lugols iodine is mixed in

the thyroid hormones control the rate at which the body

burns energy,

its that simple

" iodine " in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3

> >

> > >> she is devouring the carbs <<

> > >>>She's made up some killer recipes, too - all have

> > >>>fruit and/or

honey

> > in them<<<

> >

> > I don't understand why this happens with some people and

> > not with

> > others. I know that SCD is not for weight loss..my main

> > reason of

> > course is all my digestive and health problems. But

> > because I

need to

> > lose some weight and also have no choice but to be SCD I

> > am

interested

> > in the weight loss part as well..since I will be SCD for

> > the rest

of my

> > life. They need to go hand and hand I think.

> > I barely eat carbs only because they bother my stomach.

> > Only

cooked

> > veggies and yogurt is the carbs I get. I read all these

> > posts

about

> > people who eat and eat everything SCD they want and lose

> > and lose

until

> > their desired weight. I haven't lost a pound since I

> > started.

Dosen't

> > make sense to me at all.

> > Ah well..at least I know I'm healing

>

> People metabolize differently. If I don't exercise my

> weight goes

up and yet Elaine wasn't

> supportive of vigorous exercise. She worried it could be

> stressful

to the digestive system.

>

> There is no " weight loss part " to SCD because it was never

> created

for weight loss.

>

> However there are things you can do which would be to

> moderate

calorie dense foods, use

> more fish and chicken than red meat. You might want to

> look into

the SCD Low Carb

> support group.

>

> I must add that Elaine praised the healthy dietary fats as

important nutrition.

>

> Carol F.

> SCD 6 years, celiac

>

[Guest guest]

the vinegar seems to make the iodine more 'slow release'

the amount is really how much acidity you can tolerate drinking

dunno, maybe put a couple of reaspoons of vinegar in 1/8th of a glass

of water

thyroid recovery is slow but definite

>

> ,

> Why do you put vinegar with the lugols? And how much?

> Rhonda

>

[Guest guest]

Lugols iodine is also a remedy for candida.

Now she is extremely sick - bad diarrhea, nausea, can't leave the house to get

the acidophilus. I know she had/has parasites because when she did the cleanse

she saw the dead critters - anyone know specifics on how this diet affects

parasites? Could it be causing them to overpopulate if she didn't get them

all?? I feel so bad for her - she has a business to run and can't get anything

done.

Robbie

a drop of lugols iodine in about 1/8th of a glass of water with some

vinegar added before the lugols iodine is mixed in

the thyroid hormones control the rate at which the body burns energy,

its that simple

" iodine " in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3

.