Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 Be very careful of juice. I bought the big bottle of juice with Winnie The Pooh and Tigger on the front (don't know the brand name). It said 100% juice on the front. After Sammy's cheeks turned bright red, I read on the back of the bottle that it contained red color additive. I called the company to see how they could lie on the label because clearly it was not 100% juice. They said they follow FDA guidelines and that if it is a certain percentage of something they don't have to list it. 100% juice my you know what...... Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 The only juice I let my son drink is Heinz baby pearjuice or organic pear juice and pineapple juice made from concentrate, it's good with club soda. Most juices like apple, orange, banana added and any berry juices(I'm not sure about cranberry) are high in phenols and salycilates. > Be very careful of juice. I bought the big bottle of juice with Winnie The > Pooh and Tigger on the front (don't know the brand name). It said 100% juice > on the front. After Sammy's cheeks turned bright red, I read on the back of > the bottle that it contained red color additive. I called the company to see > how they could lie on the label because clearly it was not 100% juice. They > said they follow FDA guidelines and that if it is a certain percentage of > something they don't have to list it. > > 100% juice my you know what...... > > Amy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 The legal juices are.... Tropicana Pure Premium OJ (the original plain one... not with calcium added) Welch's grape juice in bottles, not frozen Kedem Kosher grape juice Dole Pineapple juice in cans, not frozen Canned or bottled tomato juice if only tomatoes and salt are added Knudsen's " Just Juice " line... ONLY.... not their other juices Apple cider... only the fresh-pressed, unfiltered, cloudy, uncooked (except to pasteurize and bottle) kind. I think that's all of them.... but I'm a little bleary eyed tonight. Peach nectar... nope, there is no legal commercial one.... you'd have to juice your own peaches. Any other home-juiced fruit is okay, too. ALWAYS dilute any fruit juice if you're a newbie. Patti Juice What juices are allowable on SCD? I know apple cider is, but is OJ? Any peach etc nectars that have no other juices or additives allowed? Thanks, Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 What about elli's apple juice not from concentrate? Anya's family Anya, 3 and 9 months y.o. UC diagnosed 5/24/06, symptoms started 12/05 SCD started 5/28/06 Meds: Prednisolone (tapering), Mercaptopur > > The legal juices are.... > > Tropicana Pure Premium OJ (the original plain one... not with calcium > added) > > Welch's grape juice in bottles, not frozen > > Kedem Kosher grape juice > > Dole Pineapple juice in cans, not frozen > > Canned or bottled tomato juice if only tomatoes and salt are added > > Knudsen's " Just Juice " line... ONLY.... not their other juices > > Apple cider... only the fresh-pressed, unfiltered, cloudy, uncooked > (except to pasteurize and bottle) kind. > > I think that's all of them.... but I'm a little bleary eyed tonight. > > Peach nectar... nope, there is no legal commercial one.... you'd have to > juice your own peaches. Any other home-juiced fruit is okay, too. > > ALWAYS dilute any fruit juice if you're a newbie. > > Patti > > Juice > > What juices are allowable on SCD? I know apple cider is, but is OJ? > Any peach etc nectars that have no other juices or additives allowed? > > Thanks, > Michele > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Anya, I am so sorry but that is not SCD legal. Mimi >What about elli's apple juice not from concentrate? Anya's family > What about elli's apple juice not from concentrate? > Anya's family > > Anya, 3 and 9 months y.o. > UC diagnosed 5/24/06, symptoms started 12/05 > SCD started 5/28/06 > Meds: Prednisolone (tapering), Mercaptopur > > > > > > > > The legal juices are.... > > > > Tropicana Pure Premium OJ (the original plain one... not with calcium > > added) > > > > Welch's grape juice in bottles, not frozen > > > > Kedem Kosher grape juice > > > > Dole Pineapple juice in cans, not frozen > > > > Canned or bottled tomato juice if only tomatoes and salt are added > > > > Knudsen's " Just Juice " line... ONLY.... not their other juices > > > > Apple cider... only the fresh-pressed, unfiltered, cloudy, uncooked > > (except to pasteurize and bottle) kind. > > > > I think that's all of them.... but I'm a little bleary eyed tonight. > > > > Peach nectar... nope, there is no legal commercial one.... you'd have to > > juice your own peaches. Any other home-juiced fruit is okay, too. > > > > ALWAYS dilute any fruit juice if you're a newbie. > > > > Patti > > > > Juice > > > > What juices are allowable on SCD? I know apple cider is, but is OJ? > > Any peach etc nectars that have no other juices or additives allowed? > > > > Thanks, > > Michele > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 > > > > Anya, > > > > I am so sorry but that is not SCD legal. > > > > Mimi > > > > > > >What about elli's apple juice not from concentrate? > > Anya's family Welcome all newcomers to Pecanbread the Internet yahoo support list for SCD. You are asked to please read the BTVC book carefully!. The answer to your question about apple juice is on page 76, paragraph 3, edition 10 of BTVC. Carol F. SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 <<What about elli's apple juice not from concentrate?>> ALL commercially bottled CLEAR apple juiceis officially NOT legal on SCD... doesn't matter what brand name. This is from Elaine's website: " Apple juice- ILLEGAL- Apple juice usually has sugar added during processing. Apple cider is allowed. It should be brown and not clear as apple juice is. Cider should be diluted with water before drinking. " Beyond that statement, Elaine explained it to us on the list years ago when she participated here, that there is even a problem if they don't add ANYthing.... with both apple and pear juice. It's something that occurs in the processing, lengthy cooking and filtering of apple and/or pear juice... that basically concentrates the sorbitol and/or fructose that naturally occur in the juice. Manufacturers are still allowed to not list " concentrate " on the label... as long as they didn't ADD any concentrate. The juice itself, however, becomes concentrated during that process. Be sure to visit her website, www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and carefully go through her " Legal/Illegal " list. It goes into more detail that the book. The only apple juice that's allowed is what you could make at home with a juicer.... or fresh-pressed cider, like what you might get from a local grower at a farmer's market.... heated only enough to pasteurize it and do the bottling, if it's sealed. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 > > Ok, I have gone to the 3 supermarkets in Coronado, where we live and I have > found from Organics a unfiltered apple juice not from concentrate that says > that the apples and rinsed and pressed and the jice is slowly pasteurized > and bottled. It comes in a clear plastic bottle. I called them and they say > they do not cheat in their labels. > > Also I have found a R.W. Knudsen organic apple juice from whole, organic > apples that says unsweetened, but it does not say pressed and pasteurized > and it does not say Just Juice. It comes in a bottle not in a plastic one. > What do you think? Would these be legal? > > In all three supermarkets all Welchs grape juices come from concentrate > > She is being tapered from Prednisone, so as soon as she is, we will start > again from scratch.. Thank you for everything again. > > Anya's family Welch's grape juice from concentrate is allowed. No commercial apple juice of any kind is allowed. Freshly pressed apple cider IS allowed. It is cloudy and usually in a refrigerated area. > Carol F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 > Hi Patti, The honey-lemonade you mentioned sounds delicious. Thanks for giving me another idea for a drink. I'm getting a little " graped out " from all the Welches (although I love it, it's a little sweet). I'll try the lemondade and see how it goes. Is it okay to have it only two months into the diet? Just wondering how many lemons per quart? Thanks again! Your advice is always great! Best wishes, Ronnie > Welch's grape juices .... IN THE BOTTLES.... are legal, even though the label says from concentrate. I know this is confusing. In all other instances, concentrates are not okay. > > Welch's FROZEN grape juice is NOT legal.. they add sugar to that. > > The Knudsen apple juice is not legal. The only Knudsen juices that are allowed are in their " Just Juice " line... the apple and pear and not in that line. > > The other apple juice you mention is *possibly* okay... but I personally would not use it. If you feel comfortable with it, you'd have to use it at your own risk. I would prefer a statement in writing.... not just someone on the phone.... but I still feel uncomfortable about not knowing exactly how long the juice is cooked in the factory. When they say " slowly pasteurized " , I don't really know what that means... or how much sorbitol/fructose is concentrating in that time. With apple or pear, it's just a lot more tricky for SCD-ers. Sorry. > > To be honest, my daughter won't drink anything but honey lemonade (fresh lemon juice squeezed into water... a bit of honey to sweeten), so I don't ever buy pre-made juice at all. > > If I did, and I was just dead set on buying apple cider of some kind, I would have to practically watch them press it before my very eyes.... and pour it into the bottle. I can't help it... I'm THAT cautious and skeptical. > > I have a cheap juicer (bought for $24 at a hardware store clearance sale) that I could use if Katera would drink juice... but she doesn't like it, so I just use that for carrot juice for myself. > > Patti > Re: Re: Juice > > > Ok, I have gone to the 3 supermarkets in Coronado, where we live and I have > found from Organics a unfiltered apple juice not from concentrate that says > that the apples and rinsed and pressed and the jice is slowly pasteurized > and bottled. It comes in a clear plastic bottle. I called them and they say > they do not cheat in their labels. > > Also I have found a R.W. Knudsen organic apple juice from whole, organic > apples that says unsweetened, but it does not say pressed and pasteurized > and it does not say Just Juice. It comes in a bottle not in a plastic one. > What do you think? Would these be legal? > > In all three supermarkets all Welchs grape juices come from concentrate > > She is being tapered from Prednisone, so as soon as she is, we will start > again from scratch.. Thank you for everything again. > > Anya's family > > Anya, 3 and 9 months y.o. > UC diagnosed 5/24/06, symptoms started 12/05 > SCD started 5/28/06 > Meds: Prednisolone (tapering), Mercaptopur > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 > > > Hi Patti, > The honey-lemonade you mentioned sounds delicious. Thanks for giving > me another idea for a drink. I'm getting a little " graped out " from > all the Welches (although I love it, it's a little sweet). I'll try > the lemondade and see how it goes. Is it okay to have it only two > months into the diet? Just wondering how many lemons per quart? > > Thanks again! Your advice is always great! > > Best wishes, > > Ronnie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 > > > I make grear citrus pop with a glass of Perrier, a wedge of squeezed kemon or lime and one Hermasetas saccharine tablet. Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 > > Thanks so much Patti. Today we are trying the lemonade and I am also buying > a juicer, I am sorry to give you so much trouble with the juice but when all > the family started on the diet (and we still are) we used to drink plain > water. When we saw that the basic diet called for apple and grape juice, > we adhered immediately to it. Where does it say the basic diet calls for apple JUICE please? It specifies " Cider " on the Intro Diet and goes on to explain why apple juice is NOT permitted on page 76 edirion 10. Natural cider has nothing added. I am not trying to be contrary, but will continue pointing out the importance of reading BTVC carefully and more than once. When you are clear on the protocols of the diet your chances of success are obviously increased. Consuming foods with illegal sugar and starch even involuntarily will continue to feed bad bacteria and hinder progress. Carol F. SCD 6 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 > > There really should be a correction to the book and website. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...and somewhat cloudy unfiltered unadulterated pressings of apples are what Elaine wanted whether they are called juice or cider. I have in front of me a bottle of such a beverage, by RW Knudsen, labeled " Organic Apple Juice from Whole, Organic Apples " , with the ingredients saying the same plus ascorbic acid. Perhaps the terminology is different in Canada, but here in southern California, I almost never see the term " Cider " attached to the unfiltered apple product that we are supposed to be drinking.... > Lorilyn > Temecula, CA > Where does it say the basic diet calls for apple JUICE please? > > It specifies " Cider " on the Intro Diet and goes on to explain why apple juice is NOT > permitted on page 76 edirion 10. > > Natural cider has nothing added. Elaine is referring to freshly pressed coder not bottled. It says so right on page 76. We have also stated which Knudson Juoices are legal and that is only the " Just Juice " line. I'm sorry this got lost in translation for you. Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Hi Lorilyn, > There really should be a correction to the book and website. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...and somewhat cloudy unfiltered unadulterated pressings of apples are what Elaine wanted whether they are called juice or cider. I have in front of me a bottle of such a beverage, by RW Knudsen, labeled " Organic Apple Juice from Whole, Organic Apples " , with the ingredients saying the same plus ascorbic acid. Legal apple cider is (From the BTVC website): " It is brown and not clear as apple juice is. It should be just straight pressed apples. It is usually pasteurized in order to kill bacteria. Cider should be diluted with water before drinking. " Since it is only pasteurized it has to be refrigerated. Please also see " Apple Juice and Apple Cider " at the Knowledge base at http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/a_to_f.htm This will help explain it further. Sheila Perhaps the terminology is different in Canada, but here in southern California, I almost never see the term " Cider " attached to the unfiltered apple product that we are supposed to be drinking.... > Lorilyn > Temecula, CA > Where does it say the basic diet calls for apple JUICE please? > > It specifies " Cider " on the Intro Diet and goes on to explain why apple juice is NOT > permitted on page 76 edirion 10. > > Natural cider has nothing added. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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