Re: New to group and Diet...HELP Please

[Guest guest]

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This is very typical of die-off... and should be temporary. You probably would

not have seen die-off with GF/CF because that diet is not intended to kill off

bacterial overgrowth... it merely keeps out the foods that offend (gluten and

casein) due to the leaky gut. What you REALLY want is to HEAL the leaky gut....

something GF/CF cannot do.

The very fact that you're seeing an increase in this negative behavior tells us

that the toxins that are usually being given off every day by the bad gut

pathogens that have been blissfully going about their business in your child's

gut, and now DYING... and therefore giving off a LOT MORE of the same toxins, at

the moment. This will not be forever. It's actually a good sign that SCD is

doing it's job!

Try epsom salts baths (or lotion), if you are not already doing that. Also, an

activated charcoal supplement can often absorb some of those toxins as they

leave his body, making him more comfortable. You would look for one that has no

added illegals... and if he can't swallow a capsule, you'd need to open it and

mix it into some legal food or drink. It can be quite messy (and BLACK in

color).. so a little tricky, but worth it if you can get it down him.

Patti

New to group and Diet...HELP Please

My son has been on diet for exactly 8 days now. Today he is stimming

out of control, talking to his hands and seems completely out of it.

He has been doing pretty well for the first 5 days with minimal

stimming but yesterday was whining all day long about EVERYTHING.

Today it's laughing out loud and the hand talk....Is this to be

expected. I didn't see this while on gluten free at all. There was no

initital Die off hardly and his behavior gradually got better. His

language did not however. Still only 2 and three words at a time. i am

trying this in the hopes to increase language as I really dont think

gfcf did enough for gut healing....obviously no die off right? Anyway,

my family thinks I am being to restrictive and they want me to return

to old gfcf, but I just don't think it's enough for him. Can anyone

give me some words of wisdom? I feel like I am losing him. Please help-

[Guest guest]

Sometimes, you see increased behavior when there is a die off taking place,

I think. Just as some people feel sick to their stomach, the asd child can

show more severe stimming while the bad guys are fighting for life and

losing.

Meleah

New to group and Diet...HELP Please

> My son has been on diet for exactly 8 days now. Today he is stimming

> out of control, talking to his hands and seems completely out of it.

> He has been doing pretty well for the first 5 days with minimal

> stimming but yesterday was whining all day long about EVERYTHING.

> Today it's laughing out loud and the hand talk....Is this to be

> expected. I didn't see this while on gluten free at all. There was no

> initital Die off hardly and his behavior gradually got better. His

> language did not however. Still only 2 and three words at a time. i am

> trying this in the hopes to increase language as I really dont think

> gfcf did enough for gut healing....obviously no die off right? Anyway,

> my family thinks I am being to restrictive and they want me to return

> to old gfcf, but I just don't think it's enough for him. Can anyone

> give me some words of wisdom? I feel like I am losing him. Please help-

>

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> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thnksa for your reply. I had heard that this was the case, but I didn't

believe it i guess because he never had it with GFCF and I never saw it with

the Nystatin. i am hopeful that this is A good sign!! Thaks for your help! I

need all aI can get

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>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: <pecanbread >

>Subject: Re: New to group and Diet...HELP Please

>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:11:04 -0400

>

>Sometimes, you see increased behavior when there is a die off taking place,

>I think. Just as some people feel sick to their stomach, the asd child can

>show more severe stimming while the bad guys are fighting for life and

>losing.

>Meleah

>

> New to group and Diet...HELP Please

>

>

> > My son has been on diet for exactly 8 days now. Today he is stimming

> > out of control, talking to his hands and seems completely out of it.

> > He has been doing pretty well for the first 5 days with minimal

> > stimming but yesterday was whining all day long about EVERYTHING.

> > Today it's laughing out loud and the hand talk....Is this to be

> > expected. I didn't see this while on gluten free at all. There was no

> > initital Die off hardly and his behavior gradually got better. His

> > language did not however. Still only 2 and three words at a time. i am

> > trying this in the hopes to increase language as I really dont think

> > gfcf did enough for gut healing....obviously no die off right? Anyway,

> > my family thinks I am being to restrictive and they want me to return

> > to old gfcf, but I just don't think it's enough for him. Can anyone

> > give me some words of wisdom? I feel like I am losing him. Please help-

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

>following

> > websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

What is your son eating? Are they ccoked peeled veggies/fruits

etc..?

Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

mom of and

> My son has been on diet for exactly 8 days now. Today he is

stimming

> out of control, talking to his hands and seems completely out of

it.

> He has been doing pretty well for the first 5 days with minimal

> stimming but yesterday was whining all day long about EVERYTHING.

> Today it's laughing out loud and the hand talk....Is this to be

> expected. I didn't see this while on gluten free at all. There was

no

> initital Die off hardly and his behavior gradually got better. His

> language did not however. Still only 2 and three words at a time.

i am

> trying this in the hopes to increase language as I really dont

think

> gfcf did enough for gut healing....obviously no die off right?

Anyway,

> my family thinks I am being to restrictive and they want me to

return

> to old gfcf, but I just don't think it's enough for him. Can

anyone

> give me some words of wisdom? I feel like I am losing him. Please

help-

>

>

[Guest guest]

Most of the veggies and fruit is cooked. MOstly veggies fruits, meat, and

homemade chicken soup.

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: New to group and Diet...HELP Please

>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:26:04 -0000

>

>Hi ,

>

>What is your son eating? Are they ccoked peeled veggies/fruits

>etc..?

>

>Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

>mom of and

>

>

> > My son has been on diet for exactly 8 days now. Today he is

>stimming

> > out of control, talking to his hands and seems completely out of

>it.

> > He has been doing pretty well for the first 5 days with minimal

> > stimming but yesterday was whining all day long about EVERYTHING.

> > Today it's laughing out loud and the hand talk....Is this to be

> > expected. I didn't see this while on gluten free at all. There was

>no

> > initital Die off hardly and his behavior gradually got better. His

> > language did not however. Still only 2 and three words at a time.

>i am

> > trying this in the hopes to increase language as I really dont

>think

> > gfcf did enough for gut healing....obviously no die off right?

>Anyway,

> > my family thinks I am being to restrictive and they want me to

>return

> > to old gfcf, but I just don't think it's enough for him. Can

>anyone

> > give me some words of wisdom? I feel like I am losing him. Please

>help-

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

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If he's so new to SCD, it is definitely too soon for ANY raw fruits or

veggies.... the only exception would be ripe banana or avocado, which do not

need to be cooked.

Patti

RE: Re: New to group and Diet...HELP Please

Most of the veggies and fruit is cooked. MOstly veggies fruits, meat, and

homemade chicken soup.

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Hi ,

>

> Most of the veggies and fruit is cooked. MOstly veggies fruits,

meat, and

> homemade chicken soup.

Did you start with the intro diet? If not, restarting with that for

a day or two and then gradually adding peeled, cooked fruit and

veggies.

If unsure which foods to add after the intro have a look at

http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#beyond

Raw fruit and veggies, that aren't being digested properly, may be

feeding the harmful bacteria and yeast. If they are being fed that

could account for the increased stimming etc..

Sheila, SCD 2/01, UC 22yrs

mom of and

> > > He has been doing pretty well for the first 5 days with minimal

> > > stimming but yesterday was whining all day long about

EVERYTHING.

> > > Today it's laughing out loud and the hand talk....Is this to be

> > > expected. I didn't see this while on gluten free at all. There

was

> >no

> > > initital Die off hardly and his behavior gradually got better.

His

> > > language did not however. Still only 2 and three words at a

time.

> >i am

> > > trying this in the hopes to increase language as I really dont

> >think

> > > gfcf did enough for gut healing....obviously no die off right?

> >Anyway,

> > > my family thinks I am being to restrictive and they want me to

> >return

> > > to old gfcf, but I just don't think it's enough for him. Can

> >anyone

> > > give me some words of wisdom? I feel like I am losing him.

Please

> >help-

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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