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Holy Pooh, I'm screwing up already. Thank you all for replying!!!!

We did start out with intro diet. he refused it all.

I will get up now and STEAM some apples and pears. - no more store bought.

I have been wanting to give him peanut butter, because he liked it

prior, but would not eat it now because we have no bread. I will look

up nut butter and try my best to create it. Don't suppose anyone

has pre-maid SCD bread for sale do they? COOK, I AM NOT!!!

One last concern, the reason I have been using almond flour is because

it makes things I know he will eat, muffins, bread etc.. If i don't make

anything for him with nut flour until later, he'll only be eating fruit and

cheese for weeks. Is that OK???? And how do i know he is ready for

nut flour? He finally ate 3 pieces of chicken nugget today. Should i

not give him chicken nuggets because they have nut flour coating?

He loves popsicles, I made some today with yogurt, frozen strawberries and

zuchinni. Is there a way to get protein in a popsicle without

tasting it?

Do they make a SCD for dummies book.... I think I need that :>)

Patti wrote:

Becky,

Did you start with the intro diet for two days?

<<Currently he's eating, canned pears in their own juice,>>

I've not ever been able to find any canned fruit, except pineapple, that is

truly " in it's OWN juice " . What brand name is this? It may be that you'd be

better off pulling this and cooking pears yourself. I know... I know... it's a

pain, but I am nervous about the use of this, just based on what we've seen with

other kids... even though I know it's listed in the book as " legal " . I would buy

some fresh ripe pears, peel them and steam them with one of those veggie steamer

baskets. Reserve the liquid in the bottom of the pan, because after steaming the

pears, this will be VERY sweet... and can be used for juice (dilute if it's

SUPER sweet.... kina depends on how much water was in the pan to start with).

<<unsweeted applesauce,>>

Are you making your own? There is no commercial applesauce that is legal.

<<colby cheese>>

This is fine.

<<I've been grinding my own almonds, but am not sure if they meet " flour "

standards, they look like the $17 bag I saw at the health food store, but what i

cook with them always looks nothing like I expected.>>

Are you using blanched almonds? At this point, the skins on the almonds could be

irritating and interfering with progress.... plus, if you're not able to get it

ground really fine, it's going to be difficult to digest. You might try ordering

some from Lucy's Kitchen Shop.... her blanched almond flour is wonderful... and

it's only about $6 a lb if you order at least 5 lbs. www.lucyskitchenshop.com

For brand new beginners, we really think the nut flours are too advanced.... and

actually suggest nut butters are a better thing to start with. Peanut butter

should be considered a legume, however.... and introduced later. I know it

doesn't say this in the book either... but this is just what we've seen over the

years with the little kids on SCD.

I think the advice you were given.... to just give him any food on the legal

list.... demonstrates that person did not have a thorough understanding of the

diet. You really need to start with the intro diet and then move on to legal

foods that are very easy to digest. Be absolutely strict about zero possibility

of illegal ingredients.... or all your hard work will not give you the results

you hoped for.

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<<Holy Pooh, I'm screwing up already >>

Don't worry! You're not alone.... and that's why we're here. This is not a

do-it-yourself diet... you really do need guidance in the beginning. :)

You can use commercial nut butters.... they are, for some reason, much less

likely to have added starches/sugars than canned fruits and veggies. Just look

for one of the more obscure nut butters... hazelnut or almond or macadamia....

though the almond butter needs to be made from blanched almonds. Not easy to

find.

Pecan butter is pretty easy to make... and not available commercially, that I

know of. Just process raw pecans (on sale everywhere right now) in the food

processor... until as find as possible and drizzle in some oil (I use sunflower

oil) until it's a nice " butter " consistency. Pecan butter is a good substitute

for other nut FLOURS in some of the recipes... and pecans are fairly well

tolerated by most (hence, the name of our list! :))

I would go by how his BM's look.... as to how the nut flour affects him. Doing

the chicken nuggets is fine. That's not too much of the nut flour, though you

may want to order from Lucy's to get that finer texture (smaller bits=easier to

digest). Or, check out the chicken nugget recipe that was posted earlier

today... no nut flour needed.

You can boil some chicken breast, let it cool completely, slice accross the

grain in VERY thin slices with a sharp knife... then add a small amount of that

chicken to your popsicle mixture. He will NEVER know it's got chicken in it....

especially if you start with a very small amount and increase it on him

gradually.

Try the banana pancakes.... they are WONDERFUL! I don't know why the recipe for

plain banana pancakes is not on the website... but here ya go:

1 ripe banana

1 egg

Beat the egg and add to mashed banana. If the banana is really BIG, you may want

to use two eggs.... or if you are using small eggs. Since eggs and bananas do

vary a bit in size, it may take some experimenting to get just right. Add a

small amount of batter to hot, greased griddle or skillet.... I use a medium

heat. I keep the size small so they're easier to flip. You'll get it down after

you've tried a few. Make a syrup from a bit of melted butter and honey....

about a Tablespoon of each. These pancakes are SO good... and you'd never guess

there is no flour in them at all.

Go through the rest of the " Recipes " section on www.pecanbread.com for other

great recipes for sneaking good food into kids. :)

Patti

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Becky,

You can buy nut butters in the store. I can get almond butter at the local

health food store as well as at my nicer grocery stores. You can find almond

butter very easily. Pecan butter is pretty easy to tolerate for most kids, but

I've never found it in the store. You can make it by grinder up pecans(minus

the shells) in your food processer or blender, and adding a bit of oil(saflower

is probably best) at a time until it reaches smooth butter consistency. What

about trying the chicken nugget recipe that someone posted just a few days ago.

It was mayo(homemade, of course) and finely chopped, cooked chicken. Use the

mayo recipe from pecanbread.com. Shape the mixture into nugget shapes on your

cookie sheet. Bake it a 350 for about 35 minutes. It should come out crispy

like nuggets. I've never tried it, but a lot of people say that cooked chicken

breast can be sliced very, very thin, and pureed with other foods without being

detected. Remember not to use shredded cheese from the store. Buy it in brick,

and shred it yourself. Preshredded is not allowed because they use a starch to

keep it from clumping in the bag. Are you using homemade yogurt following the

directions on pecanbread.com? That's very important. Did you cook the

strawberries? I think that you'd find the " stages " list very helpful. Look

under the food preparation section at pecanbread.com. It is not set in stone,

but this is a very helpful list for you to know what foods are advanced. You

can use this as your guide to know what foods are easiest for him to digest, and

what you should introduce before others. Strawberries would be considered more

advanced even though cooked because they have the little seeds. You could cook

the strawberries and then strain them through a food mill to remove the seeds,

but it would come out more like syrup. You should be cooking all fruit and

vegetables at this point. Peal everything. Call me if you want. .

I know it seems overwhelming especially since you say you're not a cook. We'll

all help any way we can.

Meleah

Re: Re: 3- days into diet and still more questions

Holy Pooh, I'm screwing up already. Thank you all for replying!!!!

We did start out with intro diet. he refused it all.

I will get up now and STEAM some apples and pears. - no more store bought.

I have been wanting to give him peanut butter, because he liked it

prior, but would not eat it now because we have no bread. I will look

up nut butter and try my best to create it. Don't suppose anyone

has pre-maid SCD bread for sale do they? COOK, I AM NOT!!!

One last concern, the reason I have been using almond flour is because

it makes things I know he will eat, muffins, bread etc.. If i don't make

anything for him with nut flour until later, he'll only be eating fruit and

cheese for weeks. Is that OK???? And how do i know he is ready for

nut flour? He finally ate 3 pieces of chicken nugget today. Should i

not give him chicken nuggets because they have nut flour coating?

He loves popsicles, I made some today with yogurt, frozen strawberries and

zuchinni. Is there a way to get protein in a popsicle without

tasting it?

Do they make a SCD for dummies book.... I think I need that :>)

Patti wrote:

Becky,

Did you start with the intro diet for two days?

<<Currently he's eating, canned pears in their own juice,>>

I've not ever been able to find any canned fruit, except pineapple, that is

truly " in it's OWN juice " . What brand name is this? It may be that you'd be

better off pulling this and cooking pears yourself. I know... I know... it's a

pain, but I am nervous about the use of this, just based on what we've seen with

other kids... even though I know it's listed in the book as " legal " . I would buy

some fresh ripe pears, peel them and steam them with one of those veggie steamer

baskets. Reserve the liquid in the bottom of the pan, because after steaming the

pears, this will be VERY sweet... and can be used for juice (dilute if it's

SUPER sweet.... kina depends on how much water was in the pan to start with).

<<unsweeted applesauce,>>

Are you making your own? There is no commercial applesauce that is legal.

<<colby cheese>>

This is fine.

<<I've been grinding my own almonds, but am not sure if they meet " flour "

standards, they look like the $17 bag I saw at the health food store, but what i

cook with them always looks nothing like I expected.>>

Are you using blanched almonds? At this point, the skins on the almonds could

be irritating and interfering with progress.... plus, if you're not able to get

it ground really fine, it's going to be difficult to digest. You might try

ordering some from Lucy's Kitchen Shop.... her blanched almond flour is

wonderful... and it's only about $6 a lb if you order at least 5 lbs.

www.lucyskitchenshop.com

For brand new beginners, we really think the nut flours are too advanced....

and actually suggest nut butters are a better thing to start with. Peanut butter

should be considered a legume, however.... and introduced later. I know it

doesn't say this in the book either... but this is just what we've seen over the

years with the little kids on SCD.

I think the advice you were given.... to just give him any food on the legal

list.... demonstrates that person did not have a thorough understanding of the

diet. You really need to start with the intro diet and then move on to legal

foods that are very easy to digest. Be absolutely strict about zero possibility

of illegal ingredients.... or all your hard work will not give you the results

you hoped for.

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