Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Natalia, Thank you so much for sharing that! I will keep all this in mind as my daughter gets older. mom of Makenzie 6 w/o cf and Jaelyn 22 months wi cf My philosophy Ok. So here goes the philosophy of mine. Now I am not going to say that this is anything more than a collection of my observations. Things that I learned by having CF, dealing with my parents, my brother, and my friends. And of course doctors. Ahh, doctors, more on that later. I also realize that CF spans levels of severity and I can only speak for myself now, that I am here at 24. Many of the things I write about are things that I WISH I would have done when I was a kid. That I wish my parents would have done etc. But that's wasted thought, what has been is history, now I can only share with others. Just like I also like to share with CFers older than I and see what they recommend for me. Primarily there is the topic of helping your kids deal with the fact that they are different. Right off from the top. From early childhood. Though it seems like the best of ideas to treat your kids like other kids, it sets them up for failure when they eventually come to grips that they are not the same. As kids it's easy to fool them into thinking that they are just like everyone else. But as young adults and adults it will cause them to feel like they cannot keep up and that's a harsh reality. I spent my life trying to keep up with the next kid, but especially in University, it became clear that I was sacrificing my life, my health, to fool other people into believing that I was like them. It's a lost cause. Plus I was lucky and was healthy enough to fool even myself for a long time. Then this past year it all fell apart and I felt like it was my fault. After all I did everything right. I studied and had a lot of friends, and all that. I got into the school I wanted, did really well in high school, it was fool-proof. This thing could not stop me since I was doing everything right, like other kids. But when it got me, and all of a sudden I was so sick that I could not do normal things, I felt like such a failure. This is not to say that you slow your kids down. Not at all. You feed your kids with different ideas of what they could be. Different ways to make money as adults, different ways to date (to avoid people that don't want to deal with CF and hurt our feelings), and different ways of feeling successful. Different by no terms is slower. It'll allow you to arrive at the same goals, but down a different, less bouncy road. Your kids are different. They are part of a community of people of chronic illness. Illness that there is no magic pill for, there is just day after day of the same tedious physio, PEP mask, pills and complaints. Without any seemingly positive return. It sucks, that's the best way to put it, and as chronic kids they will feel that all their lives. That's what we're fighting the most. That loss of hope really early on. What's the point of doing school when I will never be able to do what I want with my life. What's the point of working out, and doing all these mundane things. There is a point, and it has to do with experiencing all the great things in life. Next eating. I hate to eat. It causes me pain in my stomach and it causes me to have diarrhea all the time, and the only thing I love to eat is sugar and now I'm a diabetic and I can't have that. So for CF eating is as much of a pain as breathing. Scary that I can say that, they are two fundamentals. So on eating, I say eat little meals frequently. Bigger ones cause pain, at least for me. And take your enzymes....so crucial, but I'm sure we all know that. I hate the topic. next. Parents and friends and the like. This is how I've felt for a long time. With CF patients, it seems like eventually everyone goes home, and you still have CF. Let me explain. After the initial shock of being diagnosed, which I do not remember, since I was so young, you just become a sickly kid. People ask you how you are feeling and it gets tiresome to say, well I can't breathe all that well, and my nose runs and my head hurts, and my tummy is a bit sore. So you end up saying 'OK'. Year after year you say OK. To classmates, to teachers, to friends, and even to family. Heck, I've said it to doctors. I'm okay. Though you know perfectly well that if others were feeling the way that you do all the time, well they would be home in bed grunting about life, calling mom at work complaining of your ailments. How many times did I sit through an Architecture exam sweaty with a fever, and had the prof come up to me and ask me if I was okay. Then after they would tell me things like, if it was another student they would have called in sick for the exam and write it another day. I just said that I did not know if I would be better tomorrow or in a week, and I did not want to keep moving the exam up. It didn't seem smart. Plus I was used to having fevers at school. So after a while life and friends just move forward it seems like, and you still have CF. The way to combat is to talk about it. Let your kid take some of the pressure off them and tell you how it feels. How crappy it feels to have a runny nose ALL the time. How hard it was at recess to run with the other kids etc. Plus let the schools know, so that kids are not drilled about what's the matter with them. Teachers/professors/administrators, should have this conversation ONCE with you. Fight them on it, and insist that your kids are not drilled on the topic. How many times as a kid I was told by ADULTS that I didn't LOOK all that sick. But I missed so much school. Horrible stuff to go through as a kid. In university I took it upon myself to not hide an ounce of it. I was sick, I had good solid documentation from my CF Clinic, and I only went to the University disability office once a year. My profs were sent out emails, I approached them at the beginning of a school year if they were new, and I told them that this is how it was going to be. Not the other way around. You should not have to feel guilty about being sick. Everything was taken care of with administration. Missed exams, tests, assignments, whatever. There was a bigger picture than University codes here, it was my well being. I hated being scrutinized about my being ill. .......Wow, but you look pretty good for missing so much school...you don't look that sick. God I hate when people say that to me, as if I made the whole thing up. So try your hardest to allow your kids to get as little of that as possible. Cause that develops into a complex. Last two. First doctors, they don't know a whole lot. And trusting your life, or your kids life to someone that might not give you ten minutes thought past your monthly appointment, is silly. Doctors are good at distributing your meds, and for standard questions. The best person to ask is your kid. When they are not eating well, and are losing weight, its not about just eating. There are issues behind not eating well, and they usually have to do with pain, discomfort and phlegm. A lot of that devilish stuff in your stomach and lungs will kill anyones appetite. So talk to your kids. This may seem obvious to some, but my parents didn't do a lot of asking when I was a kid. Now here comes my favorite. The killer, that if you are to listen to any of these, this is the one to get hooked on. Physical exercise. Obsessive, non-negotiable, exercise. Create an athlete out of your kid from the earliest possible time. And not only will they live the livelihood of that decision as kids and teens, when they become adults they will thank you every day. Cardiovascular fitness for a CF patient should be second nature. Early on, since once you reach a certain point your lungs are so scared that it becomes difficult. So early on develop that with your kid. And once they are at the age of 17+, start them training. For runs, for cycling, for swimming. All the hard stuff, the cardio stuff that most CF people hate to do. Because its so bloody hard,. It hurts. But it gets better, and easier, and it's my belief that it will add years of IV free years to the life of any CF person, no matter how severe their CF is. It's all relative. Plus the sense of achievement that your kid/young adult will feel when he/she walks/runs a 5k with normal healthy people. it's like nothing else, as I am about to find out, since I want to run my first race this spring. If you are to become obsessive about anything, it should be this. Keeping the stuff in the lungs moving is key. Plus keeping bones and muscles healthy, as well as helping with appetite, so when a flare-up happens and weight starts to come off there is a reserve of muscle. It's fool-proof. And the best part, it allows us to fight. Not through drugs and therapies that we have no control over, we just simply do because we have to, but fight in our own way. Relentlessly. It will give your kids a sense that they do have control of this devil inside. And as an adult you can tell people that you run everyday, or bike, or swim, to save your life. People respect that and it encourages them.. And your kids will feel like heroes, cause after all they are. Natalia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Natalia, Thank you so much for this. My daughter just turned 18 in November and will be done with high school in a few weeks. She is in the process of scheduling her college courses for next semester. She is very stressed and concerned. If you would like, you can email her at Steph@... . Tina W., mother of , 18yo wcf My philosophy Ok. So here goes the philosophy of mine. Now I am not going to say that this is anything more than a collection of my observations. Things that I learned by having CF, dealing with my parents, my brother, and my friends. And of course doctors. Ahh, doctors, more on that later. I also realize that CF spans levels of severity and I can only speak for myself now, that I am here at 24. Many of the things I write about are things that I WISH I would have done when I was a kid. That I wish my parents would have done etc. But that's wasted thought, what has been is history, now I can only share with others. Just like I also like to share with CFers older than I and see what they recommend for me. Primarily there is the topic of helping your kids deal with the fact that they are different. Right off from the top. From early childhood. Though it seems like the best of ideas to treat your kids like other kids, it sets them up for failure when they eventually come to grips that they are not the same. As kids it's easy to fool them into thinking that they are just like everyone else. But as young adults and adults it will cause them to feel like they cannot keep up and that's a harsh reality. I spent my life trying to keep up with the next kid, but especially in University, it became clear that I was sacrificing my life, my health, to fool other people into believing that I was like them. It's a lost cause. Plus I was lucky and was healthy enough to fool even myself for a long time. Then this past year it all fell apart and I felt like it was my fault. After all I did everything right. I studied and had a lot of friends, and all that. I got into the school I wanted, did really well in high school, it was fool-proof. This thing could not stop me since I was doing everything right, like other kids. But when it got me, and all of a sudden I was so sick that I could not do normal things, I felt like such a failure. This is not to say that you slow your kids down. Not at all. You feed your kids with different ideas of what they could be. Different ways to make money as adults, different ways to date (to avoid people that don't want to deal with CF and hurt our feelings), and different ways of feeling successful. Different by no terms is slower. It'll allow you to arrive at the same goals, but down a different, less bouncy road. Your kids are different. They are part of a community of people of chronic illness. Illness that there is no magic pill for, there is just day after day of the same tedious physio, PEP mask, pills and complaints. Without any seemingly positive return. It sucks, that's the best way to put it, and as chronic kids they will feel that all their lives. That's what we're fighting the most. That loss of hope really early on. What's the point of doing school when I will never be able to do what I want with my life. What's the point of working out, and doing all these mundane things. There is a point, and it has to do with experiencing all the great things in life. Next eating. I hate to eat. It causes me pain in my stomach and it causes me to have diarrhea all the time, and the only thing I love to eat is sugar and now I'm a diabetic and I can't have that. So for CF eating is as much of a pain as breathing. Scary that I can say that, they are two fundamentals. So on eating, I say eat little meals frequently. Bigger ones cause pain, at least for me. And take your enzymes....so crucial, but I'm sure we all know that. I hate the topic. next. Parents and friends and the like. This is how I've felt for a long time. With CF patients, it seems like eventually everyone goes home, and you still have CF. Let me explain. After the initial shock of being diagnosed, which I do not remember, since I was so young, you just become a sickly kid. People ask you how you are feeling and it gets tiresome to say, well I can't breathe all that well, and my nose runs and my head hurts, and my tummy is a bit sore. So you end up saying 'OK'. Year after year you say OK. To classmates, to teachers, to friends, and even to family. Heck, I've said it to doctors. I'm okay. Though you know perfectly well that if others were feeling the way that you do all the time, well they would be home in bed grunting about life, calling mom at work complaining of your ailments. How many times did I sit through an Architecture exam sweaty with a fever, and had the prof come up to me and ask me if I was okay. Then after they would tell me things like, if it was another student they would have called in sick for the exam and write it another day. I just said that I did not know if I would be better tomorrow or in a week, and I did not want to keep moving the exam up. It didn't seem smart. Plus I was used to having fevers at school. So after a while life and friends just move forward it seems like, and you still have CF. The way to combat is to talk about it. Let your kid take some of the pressure off them and tell you how it feels. How crappy it feels to have a runny nose ALL the time. How hard it was at recess to run with the other kids etc. Plus let the schools know, so that kids are not drilled about what's the matter with them. Teachers/professors/administrators, should have this conversation ONCE with you. Fight them on it, and insist that your kids are not drilled on the topic. How many times as a kid I was told by ADULTS that I didn't LOOK all that sick. But I missed so much school. Horrible stuff to go through as a kid. In university I took it upon myself to not hide an ounce of it. I was sick, I had good solid documentation from my CF Clinic, and I only went to the University disability office once a year. My profs were sent out emails, I approached them at the beginning of a school year if they were new, and I told them that this is how it was going to be. Not the other way around. You should not have to feel guilty about being sick. Everything was taken care of with administration. Missed exams, tests, assignments, whatever. There was a bigger picture than University codes here, it was my well being. I hated being scrutinized about my being ill. .......Wow, but you look pretty good for missing so much school...you don't look that sick. God I hate when people say that to me, as if I made the whole thing up. So try your hardest to allow your kids to get as little of that as possible. Cause that develops into a complex. Last two. First doctors, they don't know a whole lot. And trusting your life, or your kids life to someone that might not give you ten minutes thought past your monthly appointment, is silly. Doctors are good at distributing your meds, and for standard questions. The best person to ask is your kid. When they are not eating well, and are losing weight, its not about just eating. There are issues behind not eating well, and they usually have to do with pain, discomfort and phlegm. A lot of that devilish stuff in your stomach and lungs will kill anyones appetite. So talk to your kids. This may seem obvious to some, but my parents didn't do a lot of asking when I was a kid. Now here comes my favorite. The killer, that if you are to listen to any of these, this is the one to get hooked on. Physical exercise. Obsessive, non-negotiable, exercise. Create an athlete out of your kid from the earliest possible time. And not only will they live the livelihood of that decision as kids and teens, when they become adults they will thank you every day. Cardiovascular fitness for a CF patient should be second nature. Early on, since once you reach a certain point your lungs are so scared that it becomes difficult. So early on develop that with your kid. And once they are at the age of 17+, start them training. For runs, for cycling, for swimming. All the hard stuff, the cardio stuff that most CF people hate to do. Because its so bloody hard,. It hurts. But it gets better, and easier, and it's my belief that it will add years of IV free years to the life of any CF person, no matter how severe their CF is. It's all relative. Plus the sense of achievement that your kid/young adult will feel when he/she walks/runs a 5k with normal healthy people. it's like nothing else, as I am about to find out, since I want to run my first race this spring. If you are to become obsessive about anything, it should be this. Keeping the stuff in the lungs moving is key. Plus keeping bones and muscles healthy, as well as helping with appetite, so when a flare-up happens and weight starts to come off there is a reserve of muscle. It's fool-proof. And the best part, it allows us to fight. Not through drugs and therapies that we have no control over, we just simply do because we have to, but fight in our own way. Relentlessly. It will give your kids a sense that they do have control of this devil inside. And as an adult you can tell people that you run everyday, or bike, or swim, to save your life. People respect that and it encourages them.. And your kids will feel like heroes, cause after all they are. 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Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Great site for keeping the spirit of physical activity alive among CF kids and adults. http://www.breath4cf.co.nz/ Their 'Mission, Vision, and Values' I feel are right on target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 WOW.......its so hard to tell kids they are different yet they are just like everyone else. Its like being on a fence and you don't want to lean too far either way. I encourage them to be individuals (i.e. clothing styles, hair, etc.) I want them to be different and respect others who are different. It sounds like things were ok til College. Is that when you got sicker or things went down hill w/ all the treatments? Hang in there....hope you feel better soon......... Rosemary in NY with 3 children (13, 11 and 7) with CF. I have a dog named TOBI and have coined the phrase " BREATHE DAMMIT " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Natalia, Thankyou so much for your insight, it truely is priceless.As a mother of a cfer I often wonder what I should and should not say and do for my son.It would have been so much easier if he were born with a handguide,lol.Its always as they say, live and learn, but please know people like me benefit, unfortunately at your expense, from your personal experiences.Be proud in knowing that with every challenging moment you encounter it is knowlege gained and an opportunity for others to learn when you have shared those lessons w/others. Gratefully, Patty, mom to Ty wcf and 2wocf > Ok. So here goes the philosophy of mine. Now I am not going to say > that this is anything more than a collection of my observations. > Things that I learned by having CF, dealing with my parents, my > brother, and my friends. And of course doctors. Ahh, doctors, more > on that later. > I also realize that CF spans levels of severity and I can only speak > for myself now, that I am here at 24. Many of the things I write about > are things that I WISH I would have done when I was a kid. That I wish > my parents would have done etc. But that's wasted thought, what has > been is history, now I can only share with others. Just like I also > like to share with CFers older than I and see what they recommend for > me. > > Primarily there is the topic of helping your kids deal with the fact > that they are different. Right off from the top. From early > childhood. Though it seems like the best of ideas to treat your kids > like other kids, it sets them up for failure when they eventually come > to grips that they are not the same. As kids it's easy to fool them > into thinking that they are just like everyone else. But as young > adults and adults it will cause them to feel like they cannot keep up > and that's a harsh reality. I spent my life trying to keep up with the > next kid, but especially in University, it became clear that I was > sacrificing my life, my health, to fool other people into believing > that I was like them. It's a lost cause. Plus I was lucky and was > healthy enough to fool even myself for a long time. Then this past > year it all fell apart and I felt like it was my fault. After all I > did everything right. I studied and had a lot of friends, and all > that. I got into the school I wanted, did really well in high school, > it was fool-proof. This thing could not stop me since I was doing > everything right, like other kids. But when it got me, and all of a > sudden I was so sick that I could not do normal things, I felt like > such a failure. > This is not to say that you slow your kids down. Not at all. You feed > your kids with different ideas of what they could be. Different ways > to make money as adults, different ways to date (to avoid people that > don't want to deal with CF and hurt our feelings), and different ways > of feeling successful. Different by no terms is slower. It'll allow > you to arrive at the same goals, but down a different, less bouncy road. > Your kids are different. They are part of a community of people of > chronic illness. Illness that there is no magic pill for, there is > just day after day of the same tedious physio, PEP mask, pills and > complaints. Without any seemingly positive return. It sucks, that's > the best way to put it, and as chronic kids they will feel that all > their lives. That's what we're fighting the most. That loss of hope > really early on. What's the point of doing school when I will never be > able to do what I want with my life. What's the point of working out, > and doing all these mundane things. There is a point, and it has to do > with experiencing all the great things in life. > > Next eating. I hate to eat. It causes me pain in my stomach and it > causes me to have diarrhea all the time, and the only thing I love to > eat is sugar and now I'm a diabetic and I can't have that. So for CF > eating is as much of a pain as breathing. Scary that I can say that, > they are two fundamentals. So on eating, I say eat little meals > frequently. Bigger ones cause pain, at least for me. And take your > enzymes....so crucial, but I'm sure we all know that. I hate the > topic. next. > > Parents and friends and the like. This is how I've felt for a long > time. With CF patients, it seems like eventually everyone goes home, > and you still have CF. Let me explain. After the initial shock of > being diagnosed, which I do not remember, since I was so young, you > just become a sickly kid. People ask you how you are feeling and it > gets tiresome to say, well I can't breathe all that well, and my nose > runs and my head hurts, and my tummy is a bit sore. So you end up > saying 'OK'. Year after year you say OK. To classmates, to teachers, > to friends, and even to family. Heck, I've said it to doctors. I'm > okay. Though you know perfectly well that if others were feeling the > way that you do all the time, well they would be home in bed grunting > about life, calling mom at work complaining of your ailments. How many > times did I sit through an Architecture exam sweaty with a fever, and > had the prof come up to me and ask me if I was okay. Then after they > would tell me things like, if it was another student they would have > called in sick for the exam and write it another day. I just said that > I did not know if I would be better tomorrow or in a week, and I did > not want to keep moving the exam up. It didn't seem smart. Plus I was > used to having fevers at school. > So after a while life and friends just move forward it seems like, and > you still have CF. The way to combat is to talk about it. Let your > kid take some of the pressure off them and tell you how it feels. How > crappy it feels to have a runny nose ALL the time. How hard it was at > recess to run with the other kids etc. Plus let the schools know, so > that kids are not drilled about what's the matter with them. > Teachers/professors/administrators, should have this conversation ONCE > with you. Fight them on it, and insist that your kids are not drilled > on the topic. How many times as a kid I was told by ADULTS that I > didn't LOOK all that sick. But I missed so much school. Horrible > stuff to go through as a kid. In university I took it upon myself to > not hide an ounce of it. I was sick, I had good solid documentation > from my CF Clinic, and I only went to the University disability office > once a year. My profs were sent out emails, I approached them at the > beginning of a school year if they were new, and I told them that this > is how it was going to be. Not the other way around. You should not > have to feel guilty about being sick. Everything was taken care of > with administration. Missed exams, tests, assignments, whatever. > There was a bigger picture than University codes here, it was my well > being. I hated being scrutinized about my being ill. .......Wow, but > you look pretty good for missing so much school...you don't look that > sick. God I hate when people say that to me, as if I made the whole > thing up. > So try your hardest to allow your kids to get as little of that as > possible. Cause that develops into a complex. > > Last two. First doctors, they don't know a whole lot. And trusting > your life, or your kids life to someone that might not give you ten > minutes thought past your monthly appointment, is silly. Doctors are > good at distributing your meds, and for standard questions. The best > person to ask is your kid. When they are not eating well, and are > losing weight, its not about just eating. There are issues behind not > eating well, and they usually have to do with pain, discomfort and > phlegm. A lot of that devilish stuff in your stomach and lungs will > kill anyones appetite. So talk to your kids. This may seem obvious to > some, but my parents didn't do a lot of asking when I was a kid. > > Now here comes my favorite. The killer, that if you are to listen to > any of these, this is the one to get hooked on. Physical exercise. > Obsessive, non-negotiable, exercise. Create an athlete out of your kid > from the earliest possible time. And not only will they live the > livelihood of that decision as kids and teens, when they become adults > they will thank you every day. Cardiovascular fitness for a CF patient > should be second nature. Early on, since once you reach a certain > point your lungs are so scared that it becomes difficult. So early on > develop that with your kid. And once they are at the age of 17+, start > them training. For runs, for cycling, for swimming. All the hard > stuff, the cardio stuff that most CF people hate to do. Because its so > bloody hard,. It hurts. But it gets better, and easier, and it's my > belief that it will add years of IV free years to the life of any CF > person, no matter how severe their CF is. It's all relative. Plus the > sense of achievement that your kid/young adult will feel when he/she > walks/runs a 5k with normal healthy people. it's like nothing else, as > I am about to find out, since I want to run my first race this spring. > If you are to become obsessive about anything, it should be this. > Keeping the stuff in the lungs moving is key. Plus keeping bones and > muscles healthy, as well as helping with appetite, so when a flare- up > happens and weight starts to come off there is a reserve of muscle. > It's fool-proof. And the best part, it allows us to fight. Not > through drugs and therapies that we have no control over, we just > simply do because we have to, but fight in our own way. Relentlessly. > It will give your kids a sense that they do have control of this devil > inside. And as an adult you can tell people that you run everyday, or > bike, or swim, to save your life. People respect that and it > encourages them.. And your kids will feel like heroes, cause after all > they are. > > Natalia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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