Flo

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In a message dated 9/26/00 8:56:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com writes:

<< Blair said:

> I just hate the thought that we're labelled censorious.

>

>Then Flo quipped:

Beats the hell out of being labeled fat though, huh? Of course we could be

called the fat censorious folks..has a nice ring to it, dontcha think?

>>

How about skinny,uneducated and censorious? Soon,Flo,soon!

[Guest guest]

ditto

On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:56:30 -0000 pandapal66@... writes:

> Flo, You go Girl !!!!!!!

> I know that opinions are like a** holes and everybody has one, so

> I

> want to take this opportunity to share mine. I am a Dr Rutledge fan,

>

> after all he has given me my life back and no matter what I will

> hold

> a special place in my heart for him. BUT I do not worship him and he

>

> would be the first person to put a stop to the worship.

> has caused him considerable amount of trouble and agony. And

>

> in doing this to Dr R she has taken a lot of his patients (innocent

> bystanders) with him. I after many many hours of thought and

> discussions with my husband decided that my MGB was going to be kept

>

> quiet. There are many of my family and in-laws who would not

> understand my having something like this done. My Father could not

> medically take the worry. And I live in a very, very small town and

> have withstood all the ridicule from these people I could take in

> one

> lifetime and chose not to give them more fuel for their fire. I have

>

> many times been asked where in my state I live and have given that

> info on this site ( which has been archived ). Like I said this is a

>

> very small town and to find my phone number and any other info you

> want about me would be very easy. I DO NOT WANT LT to interfere in

> my

> life like she has in others by contacting their employers and

> telling

> them what they had done or contacting a family member and telling

> them something that could cause problems for me or their health.

> My reaction to Dr R removing the archived files from egroups is

> that he is trying to prevent LT from causing anymore trouble for us.

>

> She sure couldn't use these things to hurt him any worse than she

> already has. If some one is wanting information about the MGB there

> are places to go to get it from clos.net, you can even go to

> website and if you want to talk to patients contact them privatly. I

>

> did considerable amounts of research about the MGB and WLS before I

> had my MGB and never, not once did I refer to the egroups archives.

> If you are looking for evidence against Dr R for whatever reason,

> your best bet is going to be your Dr. And if you are looking for

> someones e-mail address just ask, I am sure one of us can help you

> and if you are looking for information about WLS/ MGB ask Jeeves and

>

> go from there. And if you want to share your experience, looking for

>

> support/ preop information or you just wnat to be amused by a

> wonderful bunch of people then continue to use this site under Dr

> R's

> terms.

> There I said it and hope I did so without offending or hurting. It

>

> takes a lot to stir my dander, and LT has been doing a lot of that

> lately.

>

> Sincerely,

> Gwen

> MGB 9/29 (delayed because of LT)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Flo,

Reading your post...don't ever feel guilty. Thank God this went well for you.

We all must go forward on this journey with understanding that we've made a

choice. We've made a choice regardless of the out come. We've made the choice

that to us, it's worth the risks. You have to have the mind set that no

matter what happens, we made the choice. If it's important enough to go

through with MGB knowing there can be negative results. Then it's important

for us to go through the pain of dealing with the negative...and going

through the joy of dealing with the positive. I commend all of you that are

post-ops for sharing the good with us.... and having the decency to share the

bad. I've made the choice that this is what I want. And the good out weights

the bad...(no pun intended!) I hope someday I'll be able to share my

experiences...good or bad.

Fayetteville NC Pre-op

[Guest guest]

flo, how well put, you are so wise, and certainly put a different perspective

on things. One that makes me think alittle. Well done, my dear. Jillian Bopeep

[Guest guest]

Flo,

You are a wonderful and caring person. I think you should hang out a shingle

and go to work. Your advice and encouragement helps us all.

Im voting FLO for President!!

Gwen in NC

In a message dated 11/1/2000 10:20:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

florence@... writes:

<< Beth, I think I can understand how you feel. The surgery has not been

good for you and instead of extending support some jump in your shit. I don't

understand that. They need to understand that some folks have problems...my

thinking is there but for the grace of God.

Some can't quite understand that no one chooses to have complications and

problems. They think there is some wrong-doing on the part of the person with

problems. I think it's fear-based...they want this so badly that they just

don't want to look at the down side. You scare them with your honesty perhaps

and their need to feel that this surgery is a miracle and is THE answer. They

want to see Dr. Rutledge as their savior and anything negative at all scares

them that he is what he really is...a human being with all the flaws that we

all have. They want him to be perfect.

At times I feel guilty that this has gone so well for me. I wish it could be

another way for you, that you could feel " a part " , because there are some

incredible people on the list and I think that some would offer love and

support if they could just get past their own desperation and fear.

I hope you find a doc that you are happy with and who can solve your

problems. I know you went into this with the same hopes and dreams that I

did. I wish you had had a different outcome.

Flo

> ** Original Subject: RE: RE: Flo

> **

> ** Original Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 19:26:54 -0700

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> Flo ...

>

> I just read your post and it was wonderful. As most know I am one of

> the few people who has complications as a result of the MGB. As much

> as I want to " fit in " with the groups, I can't. No one wants someone

> to rain on their parade. Your post certainly helped me to feel better

> and I just wanted to say thanks.

>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Flo ...

I just read your post and it was wonderful. As most know I am one of

the few people who has complications as a result of the MGB. As much

as I want to " fit in " with the groups, I can't. No one wants someone

to rain on their parade. Your post certainly helped me to feel better

and I just wanted to say thanks.

[Guest guest]

Beth, I think I can understand how you feel. The surgery has not been good for

you and instead of extending support some jump in your shit. I don't understand

that. They need to understand that some folks have problems...my thinking is

there but for the grace of God.

Some can't quite understand that no one chooses to have complications and

problems. They think there is some wrong-doing on the part of the person with

problems. I think it's fear-based...they want this so badly that they just don't

want to look at the down side. You scare them with your honesty perhaps and

their need to feel that this surgery is a miracle and is THE answer. They want

to see Dr. Rutledge as their savior and anything negative at all scares them

that he is what he really is...a human being with all the flaws that we all

have. They want him to be perfect.

At times I feel guilty that this has gone so well for me. I wish it could be

another way for you, that you could feel " a part " , because there are some

incredible people on the list and I think that some would offer love and support

if they could just get past their own desperation and fear.

I hope you find a doc that you are happy with and who can solve your problems. I

know you went into this with the same hopes and dreams that I did. I wish you

had had a different outcome.

Flo

> ** Original Subject: RE: RE: Flo

> **

> ** Original Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 19:26:54 -0700

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> Flo ...

>

> I just read your post and it was wonderful. As most know I am one of

> the few people who has complications as a result of the MGB. As much

> as I want to " fit in " with the groups, I can't. No one wants someone

> to rain on their parade. Your post certainly helped me to feel better

> and I just wanted to say thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

Listen to Flo....what she says is true. It's not your fault, and like it

or not our MGB education process will continue for the rest of our lives unless

we stick our heads in the sand. The MGB is not perfect and no one on this list

is perfect. I think we feel a bit helpless when it comes to offering our

assistance. The best we can offer is our support and we haven't done a very good

job of that. I'm sorry things have been so bad for you. I want you to know that

I'm here for you.

Love,

Genz

florence@... wrote:

> Beth, I think I can understand how you feel. The surgery has not been good

for you and instead of extending support some jump in your shit. I don't

understand that. They need to understand that some folks have problems...my

thinking is there but for the grace of God.

>

> Some can't quite understand that no one chooses to have complications and

problems. They think there is some wrong-doing on the part of the person with

problems. I think it's fear-based...they want this so badly that they just don't

want to look at the down side. You scare them with your honesty perhaps and

their need to feel that this surgery is a miracle and is THE answer. They want

to see Dr. Rutledge as their savior and anything negative at all scares them

that he is what he really is...a human being with all the flaws that we all

have. They want him to be perfect.

>

> At times I feel guilty that this has gone so well for me. I wish it could be

another way for you, that you could feel " a part " , because there are some

incredible people on the list and I think that some would offer love and support

if they could just get past their own desperation and fear.

>

> I hope you find a doc that you are happy with and who can solve your problems.

I know you went into this with the same hopes and dreams that I did. I wish you

had had a different outcome.

>

> Flo

>

> > ** Original Subject: RE: RE: Flo

> > **

> > ** Original Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 19:26:54 -0700

>

> > ** Original Message follows...

>

> >

> > Flo ...

> >

> > I just read your post and it was wonderful. As most know I am one of

> > the few people who has complications as a result of the MGB. As much

> > as I want to " fit in " with the groups, I can't. No one wants someone

> > to rain on their parade. Your post certainly helped me to feel better

> > and I just wanted to say thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Awww, thanx Flo, we are just trying to keep up with you... cuz, you're the

best!!

Trude

Re: ??Another question

>

>

> Yes, take your family. No, no problem with 2. Course, me and Trude,

well,

> we had the whole show to ourselves!!!!!! But then, we're REAL special, ya

> see. Right, Trude? Need your help here. . . (Smiling) Jude

>

>