Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Dear All, Liam has been more stimmy and whiny the past few days than (perhaps) ever before. We have been giving him small amounts (~1/2 teaspoon per day) of the goat's milk yogurt for a few days. My husband is nervous that it is the casein and I am hoping that it is just severe die-off. (His HPHPA level on the OAT was 1120 [when 150 is the high end of normal] and so I'm hoping that the yogurt is driving out the bad bacteria in a big way and that this is bacterial die-off.) My husband wants to pull the yogurt and I must say that he is almost convincing me. I know this is a common dilemma when introducing the yogurt. Liam has also become more finnicky about his food (after several days of being more open to different foods). One compromise would be to give Liam the activated charcoal (and the yogurt) and see if the whininess and stims decrease--as this would suggest it is die-off. How have others administered this charcoal? Any suggestions or comments? Perhaps we have tried the yogurt too soon and we should reintroduce it in several weeks after his gut is more healed? Thanks, Audrey Mom to Liam 2.9 y.o. ASD (four weeks SCD) The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from further disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, please be advised that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you receive this message in error, please contact us immediately. Thank you. _________________________________________________________________ Share your special moments by uploading 500 photos per month to Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.get\ ..live.com/spaces/features Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Did you try a legal goat cheese before you introduced the yogurt? Some people do that because it will let them know if their child can handle the dairy products at all. If you start with the goat yogurt, and your child have questionable reactions, you might not be able to discern whether it is die-off or dairy intolerance. You could pull the yogurt, wait a few days, and then try a legal goat cheese. If you start seeing these same reactions, then you could probably assume that it is dairy causing the problem. If not, then I'd go back to the yogurt, and assume the behaviors were due to die-off. I hope that it is die-off because that will eventually improve, and you should really start seeing some progress after that. Meleah scd 05/06 iel 3.5yrs. asd, Ethan 5yrs., Mark 18mths., both nt Confusion about yogurt > > Dear All, > > Liam has been more stimmy and whiny the past few days than (perhaps) ever > before. We have been giving him small amounts (~1/2 teaspoon per day) of > the > goat's milk yogurt for a few days. My husband is nervous that it is the > casein and I am hoping that it is just severe die-off. (His HPHPA level on > the OAT was 1120 [when 150 is the high end of normal] and so I'm hoping > that > the yogurt is driving out the bad bacteria in a big way and that this is > bacterial die-off.) My husband wants to pull the yogurt and I must say > that > he is almost convincing me. I know this is a common dilemma when > introducing > the yogurt. Liam has also become more finnicky about his food (after > several > days of being more open to different foods). One compromise would be to > give > Liam the activated charcoal (and the yogurt) and see if the whininess and > stims decrease--as this would suggest it is die-off. How have others > administered this charcoal? Any suggestions or comments? Perhaps we have > tried the yogurt too soon and we should reintroduce it in several weeks > after his gut is more healed? > > Thanks, > Audrey > Mom to Liam 2.9 y.o. ASD (four weeks SCD) > > > The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, > and protected from further disclosure. If the reader of this message is > not > the intended recipient, please be advised that any dissemination, > distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you > receive > this message in error, please contact us immediately. Thank you. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Share your special moments by uploading 500 photos per month to Windows > Live > Spaces > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.get\ ..live.com/spaces/features > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Hi Audrey, It sounds as if this may be die off. I think you should stop the yogurt for at least a few days. When ready to restart go even smaller with 1/8 tsp and skip a day in between. Many have found that the epsom salt baths and/or activated charcoal really help reduce/eliminate the die off symptoms. As you go you should be able to gradually increase the amounts. With such high numbers of nasty microbes die off symptoms are much more likely. Keeping it low should help him adjust. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs mom of and > > > > Liam has been more stimmy and whiny the past few days than (perhaps) ever > > before. We have been giving him small amounts (~1/2 teaspoon per day) of > > the > > goat's milk yogurt for a few days. My husband is nervous that it is the > > casein and I am hoping that it is just severe die-off. (His HPHPA level on > > the OAT was 1120 [when 150 is the high end of normal] and so I'm hoping > > that > > the yogurt is driving out the bad bacteria in a big way and that this is > > bacterial die-off.) My husband wants to pull the yogurt and I must say > > that > > he is almost convincing me. I know this is a common dilemma when > > introducing > > the yogurt. Liam has also become more finnicky about his food (after > > several > > days of being more open to different foods). One compromise would be to > > give > > Liam the activated charcoal (and the yogurt) and see if the whininess and > > stims decrease--as this would suggest it is die-off. How have others > > administered this charcoal? Any suggestions or comments? Perhaps we have > > tried the yogurt too soon and we should reintroduce it in several weeks > > after his gut is more healed? > > > > Thanks, > > Audrey > > Mom to Liam 2.9 y.o. ASD (four weeks SCD) > > > > > > The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, > > and protected from further disclosure. If the reader of this message is > > not > > the intended recipient, please be advised that any dissemination, > > distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you > > receive > > this message in error, please contact us immediately. Thank you. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Share your special moments by uploading 500 photos per month to Windows > > Live > > Spaces > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/? href=http://www.get.live.com/spaces/features > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > > websites: > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > > and > > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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