Re: several questions

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MIXED NUT PANCAKES/FLATBREAD RECIPE

1 1/2 cup mixed ground nuts

4 eggs

1/4 cup honey

1 tsp vanilla

1 tsp baking soda

1/2 tsp salt

Grind nuts in food processor. Remove nuts.

Blend all other ingredients in food processor until smooth.

Add ground nuts and blend again until smooth.

For pancakes, use 1/4 cup batter and prepare in hot, greased 7-inch skillet.

For flatbread, grease a jelly roll pan and pour batter into pan. Spread out

evenly.

Bake for 5 minutes at 350 degrees.

sue wrote: Hi all,

Does anyone have a favorite sandwich bread they use for their kids at school? My

son is dairy free, but I would love a good sandwich bread.

We are cow's milk free, but can eat goat's products. Would we be able to

tolerate the butter and if so why? I thought I read that it does not have any

casein.

thanks

Sue

7 yr old, SCD 6 mths, no more processing issues

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Hi Sue,

> Does anyone have a favorite sandwich bread they use for their

kids at school? My son is dairy free, but I would love a good

sandwich bread.

There are some recipes at http://pecanbread.com/recipes.html

The pancake recipes are good to make little sandwiches.

A few nondairy recipes at

http://www.scdrecipe.com/recipes/r_005_00003.php

> We are cow's milk free, but can eat goat's products. Would we be

able to tolerate the butter and if so why? I thought I read that it

does not have any casein.

You may be better with ghee, if you totally need to avoid cow

casein because there may be tiny amounts of casein in the butter.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and

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Hi again Sue,

> > Does anyone have a favorite sandwich bread they use for their

> kids at school? My son is dairy free, but I would love a good

> sandwich bread.

I forgot this one that I use all the time:

Sheila's Avocado pancakes:

I make sandwich buns out of 1/2 a ripe avocado and 1 egg (whip

together until smooth and then pan fry like a pancake). I use them

for chicken salad, grilled cheese, hamburger buns etc.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and

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> Hi Sue,

>

> > Does anyone have a favorite sandwich bread they use for their

> kids at school? My son is dairy free, but I would love a good

> sandwich bread.

>

I use SCD waffles to make sandwixhws sometimes.

Carol F.

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>I use 'pancakes' as bread. I use 2 tbsp pecan nut butter to 1 egg. I

also make waffles with this recipe and the texture is very nice and

doesn't crumble easily. All my son's friends think it is so cool he

has 'waffles' for lunch!

Mandy

> Hi Sue,

>

> > Does anyone have a favorite sandwich bread they use for their

> kids at school? My son is dairy free, but I would love a good

> sandwich bread.

>

> There are some recipes at http://pecanbread.com/recipes.html

> The pancake recipes are good to make little sandwiches.

> A few nondairy recipes at

> http://www.scdrecipe.com/recipes/r_005_00003.php

>

>

> > We are cow's milk free, but can eat goat's products. Would we be

> able to tolerate the butter and if so why? I thought I read that it

> does not have any casein.

>

> You may be better with ghee, if you totally need to avoid cow

> casein because there may be tiny amounts of casein in the butter.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

> mom of and

>

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I wouldn't be too concerned about the baby receiving adequate nutrition as

long as you're eating until you're satisfied. Your diet is probably more

nutritious than ever before. Are you taking some sort of multivitamin? I

do also take an essential fatty acid supplement for my baby's DHA and my own

EPA levels. You might want to check into an scd legal one. That was a

suggestion by my son's dan dietician. Keep up the good work.

Meleah

several questions

> First, thankyou Meleah, Carol F., Patti, and Sheila for your warm

> and thoughtful responses to my previous questions! I am completely

> indebted to the you already! Sheila, you asked me a couple of things

> which I will answer. Sebastian has eaten pears before and had bad

> reactions. I guess I was a bit optimistic thinking that maybe peeled

> and cooked would be ok. I will shelf them for now to try later. We

> started with 1 whole nut muffin a day. (the batter made 12 and not

> the recommende 16 - so it was more than 1 actually.)

>

> I also have fresh questions...

>

> I am wondering if my symptoms are normal and what to do about it. I

> am constipated but then when I do go I have D. I am not sure what I

> should be eating since I have both going on.

>

> How long do the tummy troubles usually last upon commencing the diet?

>

> How much oil/fat is recommended? We are casein free so far so are

> using olive oil and coconut oil.

>

> We are so very happy with the diet so far! Everyone in the family is

> thriving like never before! My husband whom has ankolsning

> spondylitis is now able to run and jog! He is much calmer and less

> restless, less argumentative and quieter. Plus he is so energetic and

> able to get things DONE! My son with likely ADHD is so much more

> pleasant to be with. He hasn't had any " fits " of anger where he has

> tried to hurt someone in the family since starting on the diet. He

> has also started to give hugs and express his feelings more.

>

> I have more energy than I have had in ages! I just whiz around the

> house doing the chores that before seemed so overwhelming. Much of

> the time my brain is much less foggy.

>

> However, I am still having problems with getting a good night's

> sleep. I feel like I sleep very lightly and wake up numerous times

> and then wake up to start the day too early- 5 or 5.30 am! Why is

> this?

>

> Also I am wondering what Elain says about nursing mothers. I am

> nursing my 1 year old still. She nurses a lot! I just wonder if there

> are any precautions I should take to make sure I am getting adequate

> nutrition?

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> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

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Hi ,

> started with 1 whole nut muffin a day. (the batter made 12 and not

> the recommende 16 - so it was more than 1 actually.)

>

> I also have fresh questions...

>

> I am wondering if my symptoms are normal and what to do about it.

I

> am constipated but then when I do go I have D. I am not sure what

I

> should be eating since I have both going on.

There are two great links on constipation at

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

Go to the " Knowledge Base " and then to

1. " Constipation " and

2. " Constipation continued "

> How long do the tummy troubles usually last upon commencing the

diet?

It is different for everybody.

> How much oil/fat is recommended? We are casein free so far so are

> using olive oil and coconut oil.

Not too much when beginning the diet. Fats are harder to digest for

a damaged gut. (See that the intro is virtually fat free) As the

body heals more good fats and oils can be added in.

> However, I am still having problems with getting a good night's

> sleep. I feel like I sleep very lightly and wake up numerous times

> and then wake up to start the day too early- 5 or 5.30 am! Why is

> this?

Did this start when you began the diet?

> Also I am wondering what Elain says about nursing mothers. I am

> nursing my 1 year old still. She nurses a lot! I just wonder if

there

> are any precautions I should take to make sure I am getting

adequate

> nutrition?

Since you are still nursing try to get a balance of fruits and

vegetables (those you can tolerate) protein etc. and make sure you

eat enough to keep your milk supply up.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and

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Hi!

Thanks for your reply Sheila. My C and D are better. My sleep issues

are too. I have had sleep issues prior to the scd. Now I am sleeping

much better though! I do think the diet is helping me lots! I am very

encouraged on feeling the progress for myself and seeing the entire

family's improvements!

What is concerning me is our apparent inability to tolerate any

fruits. My 5 yr old, one year old and I all have adverse reactions

when we eat fruits (and honey). It looks as if my son can manage a

small peice of banana after a solid meal, but more than that makes

him sad and whiney a short time afterwards. When my 1 yr old gets

even a small portion of fruit she wakes frequently at night, is very

clingy during the day, takes 2 poorly timed naps instead of one solid

one, eats little food for the following meals, and looks like a

drunken sailor short time after fruit intake. I am concerned about

getting complete nutrition if we aren't eating fruits. So far we are

18 days SCD and have tried and found adverse reactions to cooked

apples, pears and pineaple, and raw banana.

Maybe we should just eat a spoonfool of these fruits at every meal?

Or just avoid them completely for weeks or months? Should we start

taking an anti-fungal? I think that yeast must be the problem because

when I eat fruit or honey I feel really foggy headed the next day. I

also crave these things if I start to eat them.

My husband has a problem with maintaining his weight. He is tall and

thin and the scd has made him even thinner. He wonders how he might

put on some weight. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

I certainly appreciate the support from you guys!

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Hi ,

> Thanks for your reply Sheila. My C and D are better. My sleep

issues

> are too. I have had sleep issues prior to the scd. Now I am

sleeping

> much better though! I do think the diet is helping me lots! I am

very

> encouraged on feeling the progress for myself and seeing the

entire

> family's improvements!

I am glad to hear that the C and D are improving. It takes time to

clear out the " nasties " .

> What is concerning me is our apparent inability to tolerate any

> fruits. My 5 yr old, one year old and I all have adverse reactions

> when we eat fruits (and honey). It looks as if my son can manage a

> small peice of banana after a solid meal, but more than that makes

> him sad and whiney a short time afterwards. When my 1 yr old gets

> even a small portion of fruit she wakes frequently at night, is

very

> clingy during the day, takes 2 poorly timed naps instead of one

solid

> one, eats little food for the following meals, and looks like a

> drunken sailor short time after fruit intake. I am concerned about

> getting complete nutrition if we aren't eating fruits. So far we

are

> 18 days SCD and have tried and found adverse reactions to cooked

> apples, pears and pineaple, and raw banana.

Are the bananas yellow with *lots* of brown spots/freckles?

Is it possible you have yeast overgrowth. With that I found it very

difficult to use any honey for a while and stuck to only a tiny bit

of banana. I am now able to do more but I have to have the banana

along with a meal or snack (protein based) otherwise I get looser

stools. I also found having a small piece of banana a few times a

day instead of a large piece all at once tolerated much better.

That way it is a large load of legal sugars all at once.

> Maybe we should just eat a spoonfool of these fruits at every

meal?

Exactly what I mean

> Or just avoid them completely for weeks or months? Should we start

> taking an anti-fungal? I think that yeast must be the problem

because

> when I eat fruit or honey I feel really foggy headed the next day.

I

> also crave these things if I start to eat them.

I *knew* I had yeast problems but had it confirmed by myy family

doctor. She ran blood, stool tests and mouth swabs. Although only

the mouth swab showed the yeast I could " feel " the yeast problem at

the other end. She prescribed nystatin (which didn't work for me -

others find it helpful. If you do get Nystatin make sure it has no

illegals because it is often loaded with sucrose). I also started

using carrot juice and garlic, yeast enzymes teamed with some

natural antifungals (GSE, oil of oregano, garlic).

> My husband has a problem with maintaining his weight. He is tall

and

> thin and the scd has made him even thinner. He wonders how he

might

> put on some weight. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

>

> I certainly appreciate the support from you guys!

What foods is he eating now. I am very happy to learn he is able to

run again he must find that very encouraging.

It is very common to loose weight when beginning the diet. It takes

a while to adjust to the change both in body (different type of

eating) and mind (which foods that are tolerated are going to help

fill you up and are calorie-wise. Also it takes more calories to

perform the healing in the body.

Some good choices: avocado, homemade mayo, (whipped together these

make a great high fat quacamole) ripe banana (I freeze it so that I

can break off small pieces throughout the day without it going all

brown and nasty.), good oils: olive, sunflower, safflower, coconut

oil etc..., winter squashes with legal butter or oil.

Sheila SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and

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Hi Sheila!

Thank you for your in-depth reply. It is so great to get some feedback from

people with experience on the diet! I noticed now that you have been on SCD

for 5 years or so?! That is a long time! I must admit that it is a bit

discouraging to read that despite being on the diet and doing anti-fungals

so long you can still only tolerate small pieces of fruit. How do you feel

about it yourself? How do you deal with social situations? Like we had

company over on Thursday and to be social I ate a bit of the fruit dessert

along with everyone else. I didn't' really want to because I was afraid it

would bother me. I think it was ok though so that might be an indicator that

a tiny bit of fruit would be ok as we have discussed!

The bananas we have been eating are ok I am sure, they are very yellow with

lots of brown spots. Your idea about the banana pieces in the freezer is

excellent! They taste so sweet and good that way too! Thanks for the tip!

Do you make your own carrot juice and garlic? How? Also what is a yeast

enzyme? Could you give the details about that?

I appreciate the food advice for my husband. We will try the guacamole

tomorrow!

In general we are so pleased with how the diet is going and how we are

feeling. It is so obvious to us when one of us gets something that upsets

us. We get tired and irritable. It is strange to me how quickly I my

physical and emotional states can be altered for the better or worse

depending on what I eat.

If yeast is our main problem then do you think we could eat the yogurt and

butter now? I feel that I have reacted to cheese and dairy before. I have

thought that I was ok on butter and yogurt I don't know about. They have

little sugar to feed the yeast though I would think.

Sure thankful for the guidance!

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Hi ,

> Thank you for your in-depth reply. It is so great to get some

feedback from

> people with experience on the diet! I noticed now that you have

been on SCD

> for 5 years or so?! That is a long time! I must admit that it is a

bit

> discouraging to read that despite being on the diet and doing anti-

fungals

> so long you can still only tolerate small pieces of fruit. How do

you feel

> about it yourself?

I am the " Lemony snicket, series of unfortunate events " SCDer. My

yeast problem was just about under control (after being set off by a

run of antibiotics last year, when this year a misdiagnosis of

pneumonia and prescribed antibiotics put me in the hospital. I had

a viral infection (mono) and the unnecessary antibiotics just

trashed my gut - but I bounced back with the help of the diet.

After being released I caught the stomach flu and then strep throat

within a week. Since still sick with mono etc. the doc said I

*had* to have antibiotics and this time it caused Antibiotic induced

diarrhea which (in my already compromised state) lead to antibiotic

induced colitis and more hospitailization. My regular doc and my

specialist were away when this happened but we have since set on a

plan to ensure that it doesn't happen again. My back up is a friend

who will give me her medical opinion if in the future antibiotics

are warranted as she felt they weren't necessary in either of the

above cases. So although my story is discouraging, I am happy to be

here - I am sure that without the diet the medical community would

have killed me long ago. (The staff were amazed at how quickly I

recovered in the hospital each time considering how ill I was when I

entered, the nurses thought the food DH brought was heavenly

compared to the stuff served in the hospital).

> How do you deal with social situations? Like we had

> company over on Thursday and to be social I ate a bit of the fruit

dessert

> along with everyone else. I didn't' really want to because I was

afraid it

> would bother me. I think it was ok though so that might be an

indicator that

> a tiny bit of fruit would be ok as we have discussed!

At social gatherings I have a bit of whatever I can tolerate.

Sometimes I'll bring my own food and people don't mind (I also feel

a lot safer knowing that I prepared it - I've been burned in the

past with others cooking) If we are just going for drinks or

dessert I'll usually stick to a glass of legal wine/legal club

soda/bottled water or weak tea.

> Do you make your own carrot juice and garlic? How?

I have a juicer so I just pop 2 carrots and 1 garlic clove it in

that. It is a fairly cheap juicer but does the job. I haven't used

it lately since I am taking S. boulardii (a good yeast).

>Also what is a yeast

> enzyme? Could you give the details about that?

The yeast enzymes basically are a combination of specific enzymes

that break down the cell walls of the yeast.

There are a number of these depending on where you live:

Candex, Candidase, Candizyme etc...

Combining them with an antifungal makes them more potent. Best to

start low and gradually build up depending on the severity of your

yeast overgrowth.

> If yeast is our main problem then do you think we could eat the

yogurt and

> butter now? I feel that I have reacted to cheese and dairy before.

I have

> thought that I was ok on butter and yogurt I don't know about.

They have

> little sugar to feed the yeast though I would think.

If yeast is your main problem the butter and yogurt may be okay.

24 hour SCD yogurt would likely help with yeast. You may have die

off so it's best to start small and gradually increase as to not

overwhelm your system (also prevents mistaking die off symptoms with

intolerance of a food).

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and daniel