Re: [was] Winter Squash [now] PROBIOTICS...

[Guest guest]

Definitely use a probiotic from the very beginning. You need to have the

good stuff right there replacing the bad as it dies off.

Meleah

[was] Winter Squash [now] PROBIOTICS...

> hi antoinette and all,

>

> did you give probiotics on the intro? are you supposed to put the

> good bugs in to help fight the bad ones or do you start probiotics

> after the intro diet??? i have not been able to find this info? we

> are avoiding the yoghurt for sometime so i will need to use a

> probiotic for sure.

>

> roweena x

>

>

>

>> To kill the yeast we ate the intro for 10 days. Elaine suggests a

>> minimum of two days to five days intro. Because of horrible D we had

>> no choice but to do it longer. AFter this intro, the yeast where all

>> but gone. Even Nystatin didn't do this good of job. Make sure all

>> illegals are out of your diet. You don't want to feed the bad guys

>> when you are trying to starve them.

>>

>> Intro foods are very plan and easy to digest and absorbe, leaving

>> nothing for the bad gut bugs or yeast to consume. The die off is not

>> easy. Use activated charcoal and epson salts baths. When the bad

>> guys die they release toxins that make one feel sick.

>>

>> If you have signs of yeast still, you may want to starve it out by

>> going back to intro for a while. Squash is not a intro food. Only eat

>> the foods that Elaine describes in her book for introductory diet.

>> Eat the intro untill you show signs of die off. Two to five days...or

>> longer if you have D. Then you can start introducing new foods

>> according to the BTVC book and enjoy all the winter squash that you

>> want!

>>

>> Hope this helps you to kill your bad gut bugs, Antoinette SCD 2/06

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi meleah,

what one do you use???

roweena x

> Definitely use a probiotic from the very beginning. You need to

> have the

> good stuff right there replacing the bad as it dies off.

> Meleah

>

> [was] Winter Squash [now] PROBIOTICS...

>

> > hi antoinette and all,

> >

> > did you give probiotics on the intro? are you supposed to put the

> > good bugs in to help fight the bad ones or do you start probiotics

> > after the intro diet??? i have not been able to find this info? we

> > are avoiding the yoghurt for sometime so i will need to use a

> > probiotic for sure.

> >

> > roweena x

> >

> >

> >

> >> To kill the yeast we ate the intro for 10 days. Elaine suggests a

> >> minimum of two days to five days intro. Because of horrible D we

> had

> >> no choice but to do it longer. AFter this intro, the yeast where

> all

> >> but gone. Even Nystatin didn't do this good of job. Make sure all

> >> illegals are out of your diet. You don't want to feed the bad guys

> >> when you are trying to starve them.

> >>

> >> Intro foods are very plan and easy to digest and absorbe, leaving

> >> nothing for the bad gut bugs or yeast to consume. The die off is

> not

> >> easy. Use activated charcoal and epson salts baths. When the bad

> >> guys die they release toxins that make one feel sick.

> >>

> >> If you have signs of yeast still, you may want to starve it out by

> >> going back to intro for a while. Squash is not a intro food.

> Only eat

> >> the foods that Elaine describes in her book for introductory diet.

> >> Eat the intro untill you show signs of die off. Two to five

> days...or

> >> longer if you have D. Then you can start introducing new foods

> >> according to the BTVC book and enjoy all the winter squash that you

> >> want!

> >>

> >> Hope this helps you to kill your bad gut bugs, Antoinette SCD 2/06

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I use the Kirkman Labs lactobasilus acidopholus. I've probably misspelled

it, but you can order it from

www.kirkmanlabs.com

Meleah

[was] Winter Squash [now] PROBIOTICS...

>>

>> > hi antoinette and all,

>> >

>> > did you give probiotics on the intro? are you supposed to put the

>> > good bugs in to help fight the bad ones or do you start probiotics

>> > after the intro diet??? i have not been able to find this info? we

>> > are avoiding the yoghurt for sometime so i will need to use a

>> > probiotic for sure.

>> >

>> > roweena x

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >> To kill the yeast we ate the intro for 10 days. Elaine suggests a

>> >> minimum of two days to five days intro. Because of horrible D we

>> had

>> >> no choice but to do it longer. AFter this intro, the yeast where

>> all

>> >> but gone. Even Nystatin didn't do this good of job. Make sure all

>> >> illegals are out of your diet. You don't want to feed the bad guys

>> >> when you are trying to starve them.

>> >>

>> >> Intro foods are very plan and easy to digest and absorbe, leaving

>> >> nothing for the bad gut bugs or yeast to consume. The die off is

>> not

>> >> easy. Use activated charcoal and epson salts baths. When the bad

>> >> guys die they release toxins that make one feel sick.

>> >>

>> >> If you have signs of yeast still, you may want to starve it out by

>> >> going back to intro for a while. Squash is not a intro food.

>> Only eat

>> >> the foods that Elaine describes in her book for introductory diet.

>> >> Eat the intro untill you show signs of die off. Two to five

>> days...or

>> >> longer if you have D. Then you can start introducing new foods

>> >> according to the BTVC book and enjoy all the winter squash that you

>> >> want!

>> >>

>> >> Hope this helps you to kill your bad gut bugs, Antoinette SCD 2/06

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Roweena,

We used Acidophilus and the goat yogurt to repopulate our intestines.

We started with the goat yogurt. Some say to introduce it slowly. It

is easier on the body.

The only reason we got stuck on intro for so long, is that Eliane

tells everyone in the book that you should not move forward untill all

diarrhea ends. For us this was 10 long days. It was a battle to end

the D our daughter. In the end...Elaine's SCD won though! Nothing

prior to SCD worked this well! I too was surprised that it took

longer than her suggeston of 2 to five days. Our duaghter came to

Pecan Bread very, very, sick. Her mouth was full of thrush too.

After this die off it was gone. Revisited with the 3 month

regression...so we went back to intro...and we starved them out again.

But the goat yogurt was our God send at repopulating wiht good gut

bugs.

Yes, you will need a good SCD probiotic for certain if you are not

eating the yogurts.

Some how you need to cause a die off. Otherwise you will not get rid

of your yeast. The introductory foods are the only way that I know

works. Some use enzymes, and antifungals too, they find them

helpful.

Hope you starve out your yeasty beasties soon. Anotinette scd2/06

[Guest guest]

The corners of my lips were cracked - two days of zinc

supps and it cleared up. I am also 34 and hadn't had

this happen before...

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[Guest guest]

At 09:54 PM 10/2/2006, you wrote:

>[snip]

>Some how you need to cause a die off. Otherwise you will not get rid

>of your yeast. The introductory foods are the only way that I know

>works. Some use enzymes, and antifungals too, they find them

>helpful.

My son had a recurrence of yeast thanks to antibiotics and dietary

infractions. So does this mean that he needs to start over with the

introductory diet, and that will get rid of the yeast? Is it possible that

he still had the yeast all along, it was just laying low waiting for a

chance to increase its numbers? Or can it be reintroduced through diet?

What enzymes and antifungals are the most helpful with yeast?

Thank you,

mother of Adam (8, PDD-NOS, Lyme [abx since 8/15/06], asthma, egg allergy,

SCD 7/06)

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

We have used enzymes before and antifungals, but with side affects

that we did not want. Which equated to returned diarrhea and GI

pain. What truly worked best so far was starving it out with the

introductory diet. Ealine suggests that we adhere to the SCD

convictions with 100% adherance, otherwise the bad gut bugs can win

again. So I suggest that you may want to go back to intro and start

over. Especialy if you have had infractions.

Elaine never gave an exact time frame to how long an autisic person

should eat this way. Yet, she did say one year after the last

symptoms leave one can explore other avenues if they want to. Many

have descided to do SCD for life, becasue of the health benifits.

We are going to be trying the enzymes again, but this is not what

got rid of our first yeast issues. We want to use the enzymes to see

if we can boost our daughters ability to digest her food and absorbe

it better. We pray that it does not cause set backs.

When we tried the antifungals, I noticed that it caused an

overgrowth of other bad gut flora (increased gas and diarreha)...so

this was frustrating too. So we still had to go back to intro for

the GI symptoms and side affects of the antifungals. From our

experience, I would try to fight the battle with the yeast with SCD

first and see what happens. Then try other avenues if you have to.

Some find them helpful. But how would you know yet if you need

them? You may be able to save money and time. It sounds like you

have yet to practice SCD 100%, this is why the yeasty beasties are

still winning the war.

Plus, it is believed by some to grow in biofilms...so it can

revisist as it dies off in it's layers. When this appears to happen,

we go back to intro for a few days, and we casue a die off and we

are fine again. These set backs can be frustrating. We all need to

hang in there together!

Hope this helps you, Antoinette and family (celiac, colitis, add,

adhd, asd and more (scd 2/06)

[Guest guest]

It is my understanding that we never completely get rid of ALL yeast in the

gut... in fact, we are *supposed* to have *some*, believe it or not. It's just

when everything gets so out-of-balance that yeast overgrows and gets out of

control. With the recent antibiotics, any good flora he had were killed off and

the yeast exploded in population.... but they were probably already there, in

smaller numbers.

You might choose to go back to intro for a couple of days.... but I think the

most important is to get the good bacteria down there, in the form of SCD

yogurt.... or supplement acidophilus if he can't have the yogurt yet.

Go look in our " files " section at the homepage for this list for the carrot

juice and garlic yeast remedy that Tamaro says is " the best "

antifungal she's every used.

Patti

Re: Re: [was] Winter Squash [now] PROBIOTICS...

My son had a recurrence of yeast thanks to antibiotics and dietary

infractions. So does this mean that he needs to start over with the

introductory diet, and that will get rid of the yeast? Is it possible that

he still had the yeast all along, it was just laying low waiting for a

chance to increase its numbers? Or can it be reintroduced through diet?

What enzymes and antifungals are the most helpful with yeast?

Thank you,

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