Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 In the book, and in many old posts, Elaine stressed that you should not stop taking medication that you need. If you cannot find it in an SCD legal form, then you will have to do the best you can with what you've got. There are many supplements that are legal. Your iron supplement should be fine. And even if it's not, it has to be because you cannot place yourself in a place of ill health on purpose, that would be counter to the whole reason of doing the diet. KimS celiac family SCD 2003-2004 > > I am borderline anemic; without iron I become anemic. I do not eat > organ meats. The iron supp I take has nothing " illegal " in it. Is > there a problem with this? I'd rather not be anemic as I have enough > health problems. > > Thanks, Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 From the ingredients on the bottle, the iron supp I use is legal. I was posting because someone wrote that iron is not allowed at all, & I do remember running across that in the book, however it seems I need it so I don't know what I'm supposed to do or if/why it would be so wrong to continue with it. Thanks, Michele > > > > I am borderline anemic; without iron I become anemic. I do not eat > > organ meats. The iron supp I take has nothing " illegal " in it. Is > > there a problem with this? I'd rather not be anemic as I have enough > > health problems. > > > > Thanks, Michele > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 > > From the ingredients on the bottle, the iron supp I use is legal. I > was posting because someone wrote that iron is not allowed at all, & > I do remember running across that in the book, however it seems I > need it so I don't know what I'm supposed to do or if/why it would > be so wrong to continue with it. > > Thanks, Michele Elaine states this on the legal/illegal list on her website. Please do not get vitamins with iron; they encourage all kinds of infections especially in the gut, and iron has had much research done on it re other diseases. No oral iron if you can help it. Just eat the liver pate and if you like liver, eat it at least once a week. Carol F. SCD 6 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Charlene is right, iron supplements themselves are illegal on SCD, despite not having any illegal fillers. More importantly, though.... and this is not an SCD issue, but..... You may be anemic.... but that does not *necessarily* mean that you need to take supplemental iron. My naturopathic physician told me that B-complex vitamins are the FIRST thing she prescribes when someone's bloodwork comes back showing low iron. The next thing she does is to ask the individual whether or not they are of Celtic ancestry. There is a genetically based disorder called hemochromatosis (just Google it for more detailed info).... that is very prevalent in those with Celtic heritage.... English, Irish, Welsh.... and pretty much anyone with northern European ancestry. Ironically (pun intended), there is also a lot of celiac disease in that population. Anyway.... this disorder actually makes you load excess iron into your organs.... liver, heart, brain, etc..... where it is VERY toxic and will eventually cause fatal organ breakdown, if it's not diagnosed and treated (easy to treat with phlebotomy, if caught early enough). The weird thing is, your ordinary bloodwork will come back showing that you're anemic.... even though iron is your WORST enemy if you have this condition. That's because your body is pulling the iron out of your blood and storing it... sort of in a bizarre effort to keep it from killing you. Then, of course, many people are prescribed iron supplements, which only makes it WORSE. They have to run very specific tests to screen for hemochromatosis.... and not all MDs are familiar with the disorder.... so go read up at one of the sites dedicated to this and find out EXACTLY which tests they need to do, if you think it's a possibility. My aunt has this condition.... I have ish and German blood on one side, English and Irish on the other..... so I had to have all the screening tests done (all negative, thank goodness). So, anyway..... read up on this disorder if you are supposedly anemic, especially if you have a lot of Celtic blood in your family tree. I am curious as to whether there will eventually be some sort of direct link between celiac disease and hemochromatosis. Not sure if anyone has explored that but I just know that this heritage is more affected by BOTH disorders than other populations. Patti Re: Iron Supplementation and Anemia From the ingredients on the bottle, the iron supp I use is legal. I was posting because someone wrote that iron is not allowed at all, & I do remember running across that in the book, however it seems I need it so I don't know what I'm supposed to do or if/why it would be so wrong to continue with it. Thanks, Michele Recent Activity a.. 16New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 I can look up the disease, but I'm not of any of those backgrounds. I'll probably just stop the iron & see how I do; it seemed to help though. Thanks, Michele > > Charlene is right, iron supplements themselves are illegal on SCD, despite not having any illegal fillers. More importantly, though.... and this is not an SCD issue, but..... > > You may be anemic.... but that does not *necessarily* mean that you need to take supplemental iron. My naturopathic physician told me that B-complex vitamins are the FIRST thing she prescribes when someone's bloodwork comes back showing low iron. > > The next thing she does is to ask the individual whether or not they are of Celtic ancestry. There is a genetically based disorder called hemochromatosis (just Google it for more detailed info).... that is very prevalent in those with Celtic heritage.... English, Irish, Welsh.... and pretty much anyone with northern European ancestry. Ironically (pun intended), there is also a lot of celiac disease in that population. > > Anyway.... this disorder actually makes you load excess iron into your organs.... liver, heart, brain, etc..... where it is VERY toxic and will eventually cause fatal organ breakdown, if it's not diagnosed and treated (easy to treat with phlebotomy, if caught early enough). > > The weird thing is, your ordinary bloodwork will come back showing that you're anemic.... even though iron is your WORST enemy if you have this condition. That's because your body is pulling the iron out of your blood and storing it... sort of in a bizarre effort to keep it from killing you. Then, of course, many people are prescribed iron supplements, which only makes it WORSE. > > They have to run very specific tests to screen for hemochromatosis.... and not all MDs are familiar with the disorder.... so go read up at one of the sites dedicated to this and find out EXACTLY which tests they need to do, if you think it's a possibility. > > My aunt has this condition.... I have ish and German blood on one side, English and Irish on the other..... so I had to have all the screening tests done (all negative, thank goodness). > > So, anyway..... read up on this disorder if you are supposedly anemic, especially if you have a lot of Celtic blood in your family tree. I am curious as to whether there will eventually be some sort of direct link between celiac disease and hemochromatosis. Not sure if anyone has explored that but I just know that this heritage is more affected by BOTH disorders than other populations. > > Patti > > Re: Iron Supplementation and Anemia > > > From the ingredients on the bottle, the iron supp I use is legal. I > was posting because someone wrote that iron is not allowed at all, & > I do remember running across that in the book, however it seems I > need it so I don't know what I'm supposed to do or if/why it would > be so wrong to continue with it. > > Thanks, Michele > > > Recent Activity > a.. 16New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Well....it's probably unlikely if you're not Celtic or northern European... but I figured it was worth mentioning, in case anyone else had the same issues. I found out that it's SO prevalent in Wales that they pretty much screen the entire population for it. But, moving on, I would just stress again the part about the need for B vitamins in order to better absorb iron from your diet .... and of course, vitamin C. If you're including iron rich foods in your diet, and C and B comp, then the state of your gut just may be too impaired to absorb iron properly yet. Unfortunately, supplemental iron does tend to feed the bad pathogens in the gut. Patti Re: Iron Supplementation and Anemia I can look up the disease, but I'm not of any of those backgrounds. I'll probably just stop the iron & see how I do; it seemed to help though. Thanks, Michele Recent Activity a.. 18New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 B vits as in a B comp or B12? I have an Rx for a B12 shot for here at home that I probably do maybe once a week (or as I remember). What are iron rich foods besides pumpkin seeds (no seeds yet) or liver (don't eat liver)? Thanks, Michele > > Well....it's probably unlikely if you're not Celtic or northern European... but I figured it was worth mentioning, in case anyone else had the same issues. I found out that it's SO prevalent in Wales that they pretty much screen the entire population for it. > > But, moving on, I would just stress again the part about the need for B vitamins in order to better absorb iron from your diet .... and of course, vitamin C. > > If you're including iron rich foods in your diet, and C and B comp, then the state of your gut just may be too impaired to absorb iron properly yet. Unfortunately, supplemental iron does tend to feed the bad pathogens in the gut. > > Patti > > Re: Iron Supplementation and Anemia > > > I can look up the disease, but I'm not of any of those backgrounds. > > I'll probably just stop the iron & see how I do; it seemed to help > though. > > Thanks, Michele > > > Recent Activity > a.. 18New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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