Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Can someone please help me understand why Winter Squash is allowed on SCD with candida? I read that fruit should be eliminated in the beginning but haven't read that about the squash. I can't find info whether it's considered a monosacharide or diasacharide etc...How do we know the winter squash isn't feeding the candida too? It's high in sugar and starch, right? I developed cracked lips and severe cracks on the corner of my mouth after 1 month on the SCD. I'm 34 and have never had this happen even while on traditional Anti-candida diets that allow brown rice. So, is this a sign of yeast overgrowth after eating squash or a good yeast die-off sign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Not to be impertinent, but how do you know your symptoms are yeast symptoms? I have a friend who gets the same symptoms when she eats wheat, and I know a child who gets similar symptoms from milk. Cracked lips, to me, suggest a deficiency of some sort. Are you getting essential fatty acids (EFAs) somehow in your diet or by supplementation? Have you checked some alternative health books to see what else your symptoms might be the result of? I don't know what research Elaine did in her lab to okay squash, but squash is fairly low on the glycemic index charts. She was keen to have some acceptable carbs for SCD. But like everything else on SCD, or really on any diet, you have to judge what your body can digest; do you have digestive symptoms that are problematic when you eat squash? Personally, we don't really limit fruit or vegetables or honey but we use a lot of coconut, which is an anti-fungal among other things. I think balance is key; we eat a lot of meat and healthy fats, too. Lorilyn Winter Squash with Candida? Can someone please help me understand why Winter Squash is allowed on SCD with candida? I read that fruit should be eliminated in the beginning but haven't read that about the squash. I can't find info whether it's considered a monosacharide or diasacharide etc...How do we know the winter squash isn't feeding the candida too? It's high in sugar and starch, right? I developed cracked lips and severe cracks on the corner of my mouth after 1 month on the SCD. I'm 34 and have never had this happen even while on traditional Anti-candida diets that allow brown rice. So, is this a sign of yeast overgrowth after eating squash or a good yeast die-off sign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 -- My son who is Celiac just had craked lips we are given more cod liver oil and water. He has been on the diet 3 months and is showing typical 3 month die off. He also suffers from yeast. but i do not see a change with squash. - In pecanbread , " Lorilyn Teasdale " wrote: > > Not to be impertinent, but how do you know your symptoms are yeast symptoms? I have a friend who gets the same symptoms when she eats wheat, and I know a child who gets similar symptoms from milk. Cracked lips, to me, suggest a deficiency of some sort. Are you getting essential fatty acids (EFAs) somehow in your diet or by supplementation? Have you checked some alternative health books to see what else your symptoms might be the result of? > > I don't know what research Elaine did in her lab to okay squash, but squash is fairly low on the glycemic index charts. She was keen to have some acceptable carbs for SCD. But like everything else on SCD, or really on any diet, you have to judge what your body can digest; do you have digestive symptoms that are problematic when you eat squash? Personally, we don't really limit fruit or vegetables or honey but we use a lot of coconut, which is an anti-fungal among other things. I think balance is key; we eat a lot of meat and healthy fats, too. > Lorilyn > > Winter Squash with Candida? > > > Can someone please help me understand why Winter Squash is allowed on > SCD with candida? I read that fruit should be eliminated in the beginning > but haven't read that about the squash. I can't find info whether it's > considered a monosacharide or diasacharide etc...How do we know the > winter squash isn't feeding the candida too? It's high in sugar and > starch, right? > > I developed cracked lips and severe cracks on the corner of my mouth > after 1 month on the SCD. I'm 34 and have never had this happen even > while on traditional Anti-candida diets that allow brown rice. So, is > this a sign of yeast overgrowth after eating squash or a good yeast > die-off sign? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 To kill the yeast we ate the intro for 10 days. Elaine suggests a minimum of two days to five days intro. Because of horrible D we had no choice but to do it longer. AFter this intro, the yeast where all but gone. Even Nystatin didn't do this good of job. Make sure all illegals are out of your diet. You don't want to feed the bad guys when you are trying to starve them. Intro foods are very plan and easy to digest and absorbe, leaving nothing for the bad gut bugs or yeast to consume. The die off is not easy. Use activated charcoal and epson salts baths. When the bad guys die they release toxins that make one feel sick. If you have signs of yeast still, you may want to starve it out by going back to intro for a while. Squash is not a intro food. Only eat the foods that Elaine describes in her book for introductory diet. Eat the intro untill you show signs of die off. Two to five days...or longer if you have D. Then you can start introducing new foods according to the BTVC book and enjoy all the winter squash that you want! Hope this helps you to kill your bad gut bugs, Antoinette SCD 2/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 > > To kill the yeast we ate the intro for 10 days. This is not suggested procedure for newcomers. Two to five days is sufficient. When there is an illness or regression it's often advised to do the intro again but only for a few days. Carol F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Hi loveveggiesoup, This question was asked recently: See http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/56967 > > Can someone please help me understand why Winter Squash is allowed on > SCD with candida? I read that fruit should be eliminated in the beginning > but haven't read that about the squash. We don't advocate eliminating all fruit. If you have a yeast problem you want to ensure that all fruit is peeled, deseeded and cooked. This provides more food for your body because it is easier to digest for a damaged gut. If you eat raw or dried fruit while the gut is still in need of healing your body won't be able to digest the fruit (raw or dried) and it will go on to feed the yeast. What you may want to do is to reduce the amount of fruit you eat and try different kinds to see what works for you. Starting with the intro and gradually adding different kinds (one at a time) of fruit and with small amounts gradually increasing the amounts (probably spread the total amount throughout the day) makes it easier to see how much your body is ready for. You will need the calories for your body to fuel the healing process. Elaine did write in BTVC for those with yeast overgrowth: " It is wise to cut back on honey ingestion at the beginning of the dietary regimen (amount of honey in recipes should be decreased by at least 75%). The amount of honey may be increased as the condition improves. " >I can't find info whether it's > considered a monosacharide or diasacharide etc...How do we know the > winter squash isn't feeding the candida too? It's high in sugar and > starch, right? You need to see if it works for you. Start with a little and see how it goes. As a vegetable the squash is high in natural sugars. > I developed cracked lips and severe cracks on the corner of my mouth > after 1 month on the SCD. I'm 34 and have never had this happen even > while on traditional Anti-candida diets that allow brown rice. So, is > this a sign of yeast overgrowth after eating squash or a good yeast > die-off sign? What were you eating during your 1st month on the diet? Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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