Re: Can honey cause/feed yeast issues with some children?

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According to my DAN Dr., yes. He thinks that all forms of sugar, including

molasses, pure maple syrup, cane sugar, evaporated cane juice, honey, etc...

all affect yeast.

My son's yeast issues were so bad that I cut out all forms of sugar, and all

fruits except for pears and cranberries. Cinnamon doesn't seem for affect

him.

Amber mom to-

ADD, severe asd, and Lucy developmental delays.

SCD 1 year.

>

> I really feel like my son, , has major yeast issues from his

> behaviors and cravings for only " sweets " I had him on the starter diet for a

> few days and he ate some but for the most part went on a hunger strike. As I

> have introduced foods back in, it seems he may have an issue with honey.

> Would that make sense? Should I just not feed him any honey at all right

> now? Can cinnamon cause any issues? I am trying to get at the root of his re

> emergence of autistic type stimmy issues that had for the most part cleared

> up.

>

> Thanks,

> Dana

> Garrett and age 2 1/2

> Celiac, Developmental Delays

> SCD 5 1/2 months

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Dana,

You will see fluctuations in the types of foods he wants due to yeast

mutating to eat different foods. Before the diet, the typical american diet is

potatoes etc. The yeast were eating the potatoes and now there are no potatoes

for them to eat. So, they will try to survive on anything they can. ALL carbs

can be yeast feeders as well as sugars of any kind. So, if one was to eat all

fruits and veggies everyday, that still wouldn't be a healthy diet especially,

if there was a yeast issue to deal with. You'll see the ups & downs as he

progresses through the healing stages. It takes time and that's why we are going

day by day. Maybe that's what has gotten us this far. There are those really

difficult days sometimes but, keep in mind the desired end result. You won't be

happy everyday but, overall you become healthier and stronger on this diet. Kali

has in turn given me hope each time I see her do something new. I hope I offer

you a bit of encouragement for tomarrow Dana. Jenn & K Can honey cause/feed yeast issues with some children?

I really feel like my son, , has major yeast issues from his behaviors

and cravings for only " sweets " I had him on the starter diet for a few days and

he ate some but for the most part went on a hunger strike. As I have introduced

foods back in, it seems he may have an issue with honey. Would that make sense?

Should I just not feed him any honey at all right now? Can cinnamon cause any

issues? I am trying to get at the root of his re emergence of autistic type

stimmy issues that had for the most part cleared up.

Thanks,

Dana

Garrett and age 2 1/2

Celiac, Developmental Delays

SCD 5 1/2 months

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Some people can't tolerate honey. Yes, cinomon can be a problem for some

people. He just might not have healed enough to handle the spice. If he seems

to be only interested in sweet stuff, I'd consider that a red flag. What is he

eating?

Meleah

Can honey cause/feed yeast issues with some children?

I really feel like my son, , has major yeast issues from his behaviors

and cravings for only " sweets " I had him on the starter diet for a few days and

he ate some but for the most part went on a hunger strike. As I have introduced

foods back in, it seems he may have an issue with honey. Would that make sense?

Should I just not feed him any honey at all right now? Can cinnamon cause any

issues? I am trying to get at the root of his re emergence of autistic type

stimmy issues that had for the most part cleared up.

Thanks,

Dana

Garrett and age 2 1/2

Celiac, Developmental Delays

SCD 5 1/2 months

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Dana,

Are you still using the acidophilus? Let me know.... e-mail me off list if you

want. I have some thoughts about that and the stimminess.

Yes, yeast could be rearing it's ugly head.... but let's see what we can come up

with.

Cinnamon is not a sweetener.... it should not encourage yeast. It is a legal

spice. The only problem there might be is if someone happens to be sensitive to

it.

Patti

Can honey cause/feed yeast issues with some children?

I really feel like my son, , has major yeast issues from his behaviors

and cravings for only " sweets " I had him on the starter diet for a few days and

he ate some but for the most part went on a hunger strike. As I have introduced

foods back in, it seems he may have an issue with honey. Would that make sense?

Should I just not feed him any honey at all right now? Can cinnamon cause any

issues? I am trying to get at the root of his re emergence of autistic type

stimmy issues that had for the most part cleared up.

Thanks,

Dana

Garrett and age 2 1/2

Celiac, Developmental Delays

SCD 5 1/2 months

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I'm still having this trouble as well, & crave honey baked goods

terribly. I often give in which is not helping. I also crave vinegar

& salt. How is cinammon a problem? I use that in many things. Can

that encourage yeast & /or sugar cravings?

Thanks,

Michele

>

> Some people can't tolerate honey. Yes, cinomon can be a problem

for some people. He just might not have healed enough to handle the

spice. If he seems to be only interested in sweet stuff, I'd

consider that a red flag. What is he eating?

> Meleah

>

> Can honey cause/feed yeast issues with

some children?

>

>

> I really feel like my son, , has major yeast issues from

his behaviors and cravings for only " sweets " I had him on the

starter diet for a few days and he ate some but for the most part

went on a hunger strike. As I have introduced foods back in, it

seems he may have an issue with honey. Would that make sense? Should

I just not feed him any honey at all right now? Can cinnamon cause

any issues? I am trying to get at the root of his re emergence of

autistic type stimmy issues that had for the most part cleared up.

>

> Thanks,

> Dana

> Garrett and age 2 1/2

> Celiac, Developmental Delays

> SCD 5 1/2 months

>

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Business.

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I don't know of any reason to avoid cinnamon.... unless you happen to be

allergic or sensitive to it. It's not a sweetener. If you are VERY new to the

diet, perhaps cinnamon is too hard on the gut, but otherwise, I don't think you

need to worry about it.

Patti

Can honey cause/feed yeast issues with

some children?

>

>

> I really feel like my son, , has major yeast issues from

his behaviors and cravings for only " sweets " I had him on the

starter diet for a few days and he ate some but for the most part

went on a hunger strike. As I have introduced foods back in, it

seems he may have an issue with honey. Would that make sense? Should

I just not feed him any honey at all right now? Can cinnamon cause

any issues? I am trying to get at the root of his re emergence of

autistic type stimmy issues that had for the most part cleared up.

>

> Thanks,

> Dana

> Garrett and age 2 1/2

> Celiac, Developmental Delays

> SCD 5 1/2 months

>

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That is interesting. I use LOTS of cinnamon in their food. Maybe causing some

digestion issues.

Dana

Garrett and

Flying Octopus wrote:

Isn't ground cinnamon high in fiber?

1 tablespoon of ground cinnamon (7g) has about 4g of fiber and some sucrose

and glucose:

Sucrose = 1.4mg

Glucose = 70.2mg

Fructose = 74.9mg

Lactose = 0.0mg

Maltose = 0.0mg

Galactose = 0.0mg

Ref: http://nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c202u.html

Compare to say, nutmeg where 1 tablespoon of ground nutmeg (7g) has only

about 1g of fiber:

Sucrose = 0.0mg

Glucose = 0.0mg

Fructose = 0.0mg

Lactose = 0.0mg

Maltose = 0.0mg

Galactose = 0.0mg

Ref: http://nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c2039.html

Can honey cause/feed yeast issues with

some children?

>

>

> I really feel like my son, , has major yeast issues from

his behaviors and cravings for only " sweets " I had him on the

starter diet for a few days and he ate some but for the most part

went on a hunger strike. As I have introduced foods back in, it

seems he may have an issue with honey. Would that make sense? Should

I just not feed him any honey at all right now? Can cinnamon cause

any issues? I am trying to get at the root of his re emergence of

autistic type stimmy issues that had for the most part cleared up.

>

> Thanks,

> Dana

> Garrett and age 2 1/2

> Celiac, Developmental Delays

> SCD 5 1/2 months

>

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Business.

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Hmmm.... well, that's interesting data. Thanks, .

It's listed as " legal " , and I would guess you'd have to be eating a LOT of

cinnamon before it was a problem, sugar wise. I can't imagine anyone eating a

whole Tablespoon at once.... or even a whole teaspoon.

As I said before, if you are BRAND NEW to the diet, cinnamon might be a

problem..... and I suppose that's where the fiber and the oils in it would come

in. But otherwise, it seems unlikely to be a big issue.... since we do not need

to avoid fiber altogether. In fact, some SCDer's are very much needing MORE

fiber. Cinnamon is ground very finely, so I don't think it's a problem... but

maybe for some, nutmeg would be a better choice. If they like nutmeg. I

certainly do.... especially freshly grated.

Patti

Re: Re: Can honey cause/feed yeast issues with some

children?

Isn't ground cinnamon high in fiber?

1 tablespoon of ground cinnamon (7g) has about 4g of fiber and some sucrose

and glucose:

Sucrose = 1.4mg

Glucose = 70.2mg

Fructose = 74.9mg

Lactose = 0.0mg

Maltose = 0.0mg

Galactose = 0.0mg

Ref: http://nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c202u.html

Compare to say, nutmeg where 1 tablespoon of ground nutmeg (7g) has only

about 1g of fiber:

Sucrose = 0.0mg

Glucose = 0.0mg

Fructose = 0.0mg

Lactose = 0.0mg

Maltose = 0.0mg

Galactose = 0.0mg

Ref: http://nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c2039.html

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Oh! Don't go off list! I want to know about acidophilus and stimminess too.

Does it tend to aggravate it or make it better?

Still learning soooo much!

Lori

Patti wrote:

Dana,

Are you still using the acidophilus? Let me know.... e-mail me off list if you

want. I have some thoughts about that and the stimminess.

Yes, yeast could be rearing it's ugly head.... but let's see what we can come up

with.

Cinnamon is not a sweetener.... it should not encourage yeast. It is a legal

spice. The only problem there might be is if someone happens to be sensitive to

it.

Patti

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Lori,

We have seen both the probiotics (acidophilus) and the SCD yogurt trigger

die-off... and sometimes cause other symptoms, including hyperness, stimminess,

etc. It's been a real mystery.... that we have pretty much entirely chalked up

to die-off, just because we didn't have any other answer.

We know that SOME kids just absolutely could not tolerate certain brand names of

acidophilus.... just inexplicably. Knowing that they needed to be taking some

form of supplement, especially if not using the yogurt yet, we just didn't know

what to suggest, except to start EXTREMELY slowly. Sometimes even that did not

resolve the problems.

Tamaro, one of our SCD moms, started doing some research into calcium

management, calcium oxalate crystals and Vitamin K.... and I am convinced that

*for some kids* this may be a critical key.

Briefly, believes that the probiotics and the yogurt *may* begin to

dissolve calcium oxalate crystals in the body.... sending oxalic acid waste into

the gut (where it is very irritating) and leaving free calcium to float around

in the body and brain, where it may be causing real problems, unless the K, A

and D vitamins are there to support each other in putting that calcium back into

the bones and teeth.

Since it really goes way beyond SCD, I just like to tell everyone to go read

's research paper here:

http://gutresearch.com/v1.html

..... and follow up by reading more over at her new list:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VitaminK/

Be sure to get into her files section and read everything you can, once you

join.

It's just sort of off topic for this list, so I don't like to jump up on the

Vitamin K soapbox, but I do think that K, A & D might play a huge role for some

of these kids.

Patti

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children?

Oh! Don't go off list! I want to know about acidophilus and stimminess too.

Does it tend to aggravate it or make it better?

Still learning soooo much!

Lori

Patti wrote:

Dana,

Are you still using the acidophilus? Let me know.... e-mail me off list if you

want. I have some thoughts about that and the stimminess.

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Hi Dana,

<< I really feel like my son, , has major yeast issues from his

behaviors and cravings for only " sweets " I had him on the starter

diet for a few days and he ate some but for the most part went on a

hunger strike. As I have introduced foods back in, it seems he may

have an issue with honey. Would that make sense? Should I just not

feed him any honey at all right now? >>

If you feel he has yeast issues you may want to limit the amount of

honey he gets. There is some info on " Yeast and SCD " at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/files/

<< Can cinnamon cause any issues? >>

Most people do okay with a little ground cinnamon fairly early in the

diet but you need to make sure it is okay for . You could cut

it out, wait a while and then try a little and see if there is any

change.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and