Guest guest Posted November 12, 2001 Report Share Posted November 12, 2001 Janelle, I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. Doctors can be such a pain. My doctor questioned my desire to check chocolate but thankfully agreed anyway. I personally know 3 people with an allergy to chocolate (1 of which gets hives). This seems to be just one more area that the parents seem to know more than the doctors. I am currently reading a book called " Is This Your Child " by Doris Rapp. It was published in '91 and I found it in my local library. I is very easy to read and interesting. It explains allergies, what to look for, how to pinpoint them, how to prevent new ones etc. I think it would be worthwhile for you to see if your library has it too. After reading the first 3 chapters, I am noticing signs in my whole family. My husband finally realized that his lifetime of hay fever, bloatedness, stomach aches, itchy throat and asthma (as a child) is due to a milk allergy. My whole family may benefit by the knowledge gained. Don't worry about not getting the allergy test. What I am finding out is that even though the allergy test is helpful to steer you in the right direction, they are not accurate. No matter what, you will need to keep records of what is eaten and reactions. You will still need to temporarily eliminate foods you suspect. All the test would have done is tell you what you should suspect. With a little knowledge and attention, you can do it yourself. > Ok, I am confused. I took Jane to the allergist this week. He was > very impressed with how we had worked with the diet thus far to > figure out what was bothering her. He supported the G and C diet. To > make a long story short...he ended up saying he wouldn't recommend > testing her bc the items I wanted tested wouldn't show up or weren't > strong allergens. What??? I had already decided I didn't like him, so > after we argued a bit, we left. Am I asking for the wrong thing? I > wanted beef, chicken, corn, chocolate, soy and others tested. That > didn't sound difficult to me. I know other's have gotten results from > those items. He said there is no way her ezcema would flare from > chocolate and that he doubted very much she was allergic to choc. I > really want to know if corn bothers her as she is very hyper and > craves corn based foods. I don't want to cold turkey remove corn or > choc. for that matter until I know for sure. Any suggestions. A DAN! > dr. is out of the question currently. It would have to be through our > insurance. Anyone just do it without the allergy tests? I think if I > removed the obvious corn, it might be an indicator. Don't know... > Janelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 What kinds of allergy tests did people do for their children? I'm seriously considering further testing on my children because I have a hard time telling if a certain food is a problem, especially with my autistic son where things aren't always too obvious. The only testing we've had done was on the two little ones & it was just a scratch test. It picked up my daughter's deadly nut allergies, but nothing else. Both kids are intolerant to dairy & the baby cannot tolerate any grains or potatoes either. We're all SCD now but the point is the scratch tests don't pick up on many things that may be not life threatning but cause a multitude of other problems when they are eaten. The DAN! dr said he would not test the baby becz he's too young (14m). Is it blood work - IGg, IGe...? I get confused with these tests. If someone can direct me or refer me to somewhere that explains it I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 > > What kinds of allergy tests did people do for their children? > > I'm seriously considering further testing on my children because I > have a hard time telling if a certain food is a problem, especially > with my autistic son where things aren't always too obvious. > > The only testing we've had done was on the two little ones & it was > just a scratch test. It picked up my daughter's deadly nut allergies, > but nothing else. Both kids are intolerant to dairy & the baby cannot > tolerate any grains or potatoes either. > > We're all SCD now but the point is the scratch tests don't pick up on > many things that may be not life threatning but cause a multitude of > other problems when they are eaten. > > The DAN! dr said he would not test the baby becz he's too young (14m). > > Is it blood work - IGg, IGe...? I get confused with these tests. If > someone can direct me or refer me to somewhere that explains it I'd > appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Michele > Elaine was very annoyed about uneccessary testing and many of our parents here have blown a fortune on the tests. The problem is that the immune system is very fickle and can preceive something perfectly neutral as unfriendly and go into attack mode. I had hair tests, a liver and candida cleanse prior to SCD and my assessment is they were useless. I tested negative for latex and yet can't go near it. All the scratch tests turned up was a dust mite allergy I'll let the others here advise you because IMO, many of these tests seem like a big cash grab to me. Carol F. SCD, 6 years, celiac Chemical, Latex and electric sensitivities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 , I'd agree with Carol on the allergy testing. I know that many people do a lot of specialized allergy/sensitivity testing that insurance doesn't cover. We didn't have the scratch test done, but did have a blood test done at the traditional allergist's office. He did a little test on iel's skin for dermagraphism(I think that's how it's spelled), and iel tested possitive for that. It is very common...especially among caucasian males...and one has a high likelihood of false results if he/she does have dermagraphism. Dermagraphism is just extra sensitive skin, to my recollection. Anyway, iel has it, and so the allergist opted for running a blood test(I think it's called RAST) because you'd get a more accurate result. Insurance should cover it, and he ran panels for basicly everything that iel had ever eaten on a somewhat regular basis. Everything came back negative except eggs as a level two on a scale of 0-4. Anyway, all this to say that I'd opt for going with the regular allergist...whom your insurance should cover...and ask for the blood test version...which your insurance should cover...and ask for the doctor to test for lots of stuff. I was very comfortable with the results especially taking into consideration Elaine's thoughts on all of this allergy stuff. My allergist even told me that if we took the eggs out of iel's diet for six months to a year, we'd have a really good chance of his body healing from the allergy because of his age and body's ability of heal itself from the problem. Of course, this wouldn't apply to a more severe allergy. In fact, my nephew had the scratch test done at age two, and he tested positive for almost everything. He is six now, and my sister-in-law took him to be retested this summer using the blood test...she went to the allergist that I'd used last spring. My nephew didn't test positive for anything. Now, he still has some issues. He has very loose stools, gets a tummy ache when eating grain products, ect. They tested for Celiac, but it was negative. I think he needs scd, and would've done it if the Celiac test had been positive, but she isn't willing to put forth the effort if it isn't. That's too bad because I think that could be a lot healthier with scd, and just feel better. He's pretty healthy in general, very much nt, growing well, ect., but he has trouble sleeping, tires easily, ect. Well, I'm going on way too much. I hope my experience helps you make a decision. Use your out of pocket money elsewhere is my opinion. Meleah Allergy testing > What kinds of allergy tests did people do for their children? > > I'm seriously considering further testing on my children because I > have a hard time telling if a certain food is a problem, especially > with my autistic son where things aren't always too obvious. > > The only testing we've had done was on the two little ones & it was > just a scratch test. It picked up my daughter's deadly nut allergies, > but nothing else. Both kids are intolerant to dairy & the baby cannot > tolerate any grains or potatoes either. > > We're all SCD now but the point is the scratch tests don't pick up on > many things that may be not life threatning but cause a multitude of > other problems when they are eaten. > > The DAN! dr said he would not test the baby becz he's too young (14m). > > Is it blood work - IGg, IGe...? I get confused with these tests. If > someone can direct me or refer me to somewhere that explains it I'd > appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Michele > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Leaky gut can be the reason behind many things turning up positive on allergy tests...... and SCD is aimed at healing that. Patti Re: Allergy testing We had allergy testing done on our son. He broke out with horrible eczema whenever he ate chocolate or occasionally if we went out for fast food. They drew blood and tested it that way. The doctor said that too many children test positive to scratch tests, when there really isn't a problem. So we went through a horrible time of trying to draw blood from a 2 year old with hard to find rolling veins. We had it done twice with ingredients in chocolate bars, corn, wheat, dairy and soy. Never once did we get a positive allergy result. Yet if we avoided chocolate, the eczema would disappear. So, you can list me among the skeptics of allergy testing. Corin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 That's what I figured. The dr told me I could figure out the cause of my baby's eczema way before they could; he was right! With my autistic son, I just want to be sure I " m not giving him anything that might be disrupting him, like he devours carrots; just loves them. He's eating a lot of eggs now too. I hope they're okay. I haven't noticed any changes since eating them so I guess I can assume they are fine, at least for now. I don't see how we could manage SCD without eggs unfortunately. Thanks, Michele > > , > I'd agree with Carol on the allergy testing. I know that many people do a > lot of specialized allergy/sensitivity testing that insurance doesn't cover. > We didn't have the scratch test done, but did have a blood test done at the > traditional allergist's office. He did a little test on iel's skin > for dermagraphism(I think that's how it's spelled), and iel tested > possitive for that. It is very common...especially among caucasian > males...and one has a high likelihood of false results if he/she does have > dermagraphism. Dermagraphism is just extra sensitive skin, to my > recollection. Anyway, iel has it, and so the allergist opted for > running a blood test(I think it's called RAST) because you'd get a more > accurate result. Insurance should cover it, and he ran panels for basicly > everything that iel had ever eaten on a somewhat regular basis. > Everything came back negative except eggs as a level two on a scale of 0-4. > Anyway, all this to say that I'd opt for going with the regular > allergist...whom your insurance should cover...and ask for the blood test > version...which your insurance should cover...and ask for the doctor to test > for lots of stuff. I was very comfortable with the results especially > taking into consideration Elaine's thoughts on all of this allergy stuff. > My allergist even told me that if we took the eggs out of iel's diet > for six months to a year, we'd have a really good chance of his body healing > from the allergy because of his age and body's ability of heal itself from > the problem. Of course, this wouldn't apply to a more severe allergy. In > fact, my nephew had the scratch test done at age two, and he tested positive > for almost everything. He is six now, and my sister-in-law took him to be > retested this summer using the blood test...she went to the allergist that > I'd used last spring. My nephew didn't test positive for anything. Now, he > still has some issues. He has very loose stools, gets a tummy ache when > eating grain products, ect. They tested for Celiac, but it was negative. I > think he needs scd, and would've done it if the Celiac test had > been positive, but she isn't willing to put forth the effort if it isn't. > That's too bad because I think that could be a lot healthier with scd, > and just feel better. He's pretty healthy in general, very much nt, growing > well, ect., but he has trouble sleeping, tires easily, ect. Well, I'm going > on way too much. I hope my experience helps you make a decision. Use your > out of pocket money elsewhere is my opinion. > Meleah > > Allergy testing > > > > What kinds of allergy tests did people do for their children? > > > > I'm seriously considering further testing on my children because I > > have a hard time telling if a certain food is a problem, especially > > with my autistic son where things aren't always too obvious. > > > > The only testing we've had done was on the two little ones & it was > > just a scratch test. It picked up my daughter's deadly nut allergies, > > but nothing else. Both kids are intolerant to dairy & the baby cannot > > tolerate any grains or potatoes either. > > > > We're all SCD now but the point is the scratch tests don't pick up on > > many things that may be not life threatning but cause a multitude of > > other problems when they are eaten. > > > > The DAN! dr said he would not test the baby becz he's too young (14m). > > > > Is it blood work - IGg, IGe...? I get confused with these tests. If > > someone can direct me or refer me to somewhere that explains it I'd > > appreciate it. > > > > Thanks, > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > > websites: > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > > and > > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Now I actually wonder if his eczema was not caused by the food itself, but by the byproducts of the bad bugs as they got ahold of it. Corin Patti wrote: > Leaky gut can be the reason behind many things turning up positive on allergy tests...... and SCD is aimed at healing that. > > > Patti > > Re: Allergy testing > > > > We had allergy testing done on our son. He broke out with horrible > eczema whenever he ate chocolate or occasionally if we went out for fast > food. > > They drew blood and tested it that way. The doctor said that too many > children test positive to scratch tests, when there really isn't a problem. > > So we went through a horrible time of trying to draw blood from a 2 year > old with hard to find rolling veins. We had it done twice with > ingredients in chocolate bars, corn, wheat, dairy and soy. Never once > did we get a positive allergy result. Yet if we avoided chocolate, the > eczema would disappear. > > So, you can list me among the skeptics of allergy testing. > > Corin > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 I'll admit that it was really hard to eliminate eggs once we went to scd. It was no big deal for the month prior to scd when we were eating a typical diet. Wow, though. It was a bear trying to do scd without eggs. I reintroduced them a couple of weeks ago, and have seen no signs of problems. Thank goodness. We'd actually never seen any signs of eggs causing problems before. Our food life has been so much easier since we've brought the eggs back. Meleah Allergy testing >> >> >> > What kinds of allergy tests did people do for their children? >> > >> > I'm seriously considering further testing on my children because > I >> > have a hard time telling if a certain food is a problem, > especially >> > with my autistic son where things aren't always too obvious. >> > >> > The only testing we've had done was on the two little ones & it > was >> > just a scratch test. It picked up my daughter's deadly nut > allergies, >> > but nothing else. Both kids are intolerant to dairy & the baby > cannot >> > tolerate any grains or potatoes either. >> > >> > We're all SCD now but the point is the scratch tests don't pick > up on >> > many things that may be not life threatning but cause a > multitude of >> > other problems when they are eaten. >> > >> > The DAN! dr said he would not test the baby becz he's too young > (14m). >> > >> > Is it blood work - IGg, IGe...? I get confused with these tests. > If >> > someone can direct me or refer me to somewhere that explains it > I'd >> > appreciate it. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Michele >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read > the book >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the > following >> > websites: >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info >> > and >> > http://www.pecanbread.com >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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