Re: I need to blow some steam off!!!!!!/SMOKING!!!

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In a message dated 12/26/2003 4:55:45 PM Central Standard Time,

hark523@... writes:

Patty,

I know that smoking is an addiction but they can be addicted and not expose

everyone else. Just because they have a problem doesn't mean everyone else

around them will suffer. This is a habit they choose to do just like I choose

not

to. My girls did not choose to have CF!! Nor did they choose to have uncaring

grandparents. But they have to deal with it!! I am tired of being nice about

it and now I am going to let them know how I feel!! Deb A

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In a message dated 12/26/2003 8:37:47 PM Central Standard Time,

hark523@... writes:

So, no more Ms. Nice Guy and lay down the law!!!With any luck he'll

come around.For the kids' sake I hope so!

Best of luck,

Patty,

I would like to hope he would for the kids sake but I really have my

doubts!!! I didn't mean to bite your head off I am just like every Mom on her

worried

that their kid is not going to live a full life. I am just having a hard time

understanding why he would do this to his Grandkids!!! When I was talking to

my girls about it my oldest said to me Mom you don't have to get so mad I said

Court can you understand why your Grandpa would want to hurt you!! Because I

can't!! It just makes me feel like he doesn't care about you because he is

hurting you by smoking around you!! I am not mad I am upset!! and that is when I

lost it and burst into tears!! He has know feelings for there health!! Deb A

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How crummy of your inlaws!They should be more understanding.

As far as the smoking, I dont smoke because I am careless or dont

love my son.I am not some freak always looking at the clock to see

when i can have my next fix, nor am i carelessly exposing my son to

smoke in his (our)home/enviroment.I AM, however, addicted to nicotine

just like many other people.I have tried to quit more times than I

care to remember, and i'm sure i'll continue to try until i finally

succeed.I love my son just as much as other mothers love their

children, and theres nothing worse than a non smoker(especially

reformed smokers) insinuating that we must not care much about our

children or we wouldnt smoke.DUH!!!!ADDICTION!M ine, i believe, is

some sort of emotional addiction.I can quit for short periods at a

time(few months or so), but cant seem to manage long term, and NOT

for lack of trying.

Not every smoker is a complete moron, and just as i smoke outside as

to not compromise my son's health, maybe that could be recommended to

family members who smoke.Its much more worth it to be around the

children we love and come to some sort of compromise, WITHOUT

compromising the childrens health or safety.

I AM NOT CONDONING smoking around cfers, so plz, no one e-mail me

with all kinds of crazy stuff like that, I am just simply reminding

you the severity of their addiction is just as real as the necessity

of our cfers health.Just my point of view.

I hope all the rest of you had an enjoyable holiday(OMG thanks now

that its over!)

Patty, mom to Ty,8wcf and 2little ones wocf,that i DONT smoke in the

house with!!! :)

> For those who are addicted to smoking. They only can see what time

it is

> and when the next cigarette will be. I am a former smoker and I

can testify

> that it was the hardest thing I have ever quit in my life. You

really don't

> realize just how much the smoke the residue and the whole thing

really

> effects everyone around you.

>

> It is our job as parents and grandparents to make sure our children

are not

> exposed to that and that we teach those who don't understand. Even

when

> they don't want to be taught.

>

> Keep on keepin on.

>

> Tina W

>

> Re: I need to blow some steam off!!!!!!

>

>

> Dear Deb,

> I have one thing to say and that is that this totally sucks!! I am

so

> thankful no one in either of our families smokes! Good lord I can't

> understand how they could smoke around your girls who have LUNG

DISEASE

> through no fault of their own!! Tthey keep up the smoking and they

will

> find out what lung disease is all about, and it surely will open

their

> selfish eyes.

>

> Best wishes for a better new year,

> love,

> M

>

>

>

>

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PATTY! My husband quit smoking when I told him that we could not marry unless

he did. I, in tern, learned to cook, and make great coffee (organic,

water-processed

as caffeine-free as they can get the stuff. No one could believe that I had

learned

to make coffee and that he had QUIT cold turkey--forever! The less cheerful

side

to this, however, is what this can mean for the smoker. I married a man

thirteen

years older than me--heaven knows how long he had smoked! But he died when

I was 44 and he was 57 of liver cancer resulting from metastacised lung cancer,

and had had one eye removed 16 years earlier when a melanoma grew on it from

a parasite called toxoplasmosis from BEEF! I applaud your taking you and your

habit outdoors--I just hope that your son will not be tempted in his adolescence

to try it as well. Of course, we did not smoke at all and our middle one could

not resist! Quit promptly, thank heavens! Now that you have done right by your

son, we want you alive and energetic on this list!

Love, n Rojas, who can only imagine what you must be going through!

ps I would have posted this privately, but my system does not display your full

e-mail address, only your name! You just take care of you, now, too; you are

as valuable as any child--I just happen to think that adults count, too! M.

Re: I need to blow some steam off!!!!!!

>

>

> Dear Deb,

> I have one thing to say and that is that this totally sucks!! I am

so

> thankful no one in either of our families smokes! Good lord I can't

> understand how they could smoke around your girls who have LUNG

DISEASE

> through no fault of their own!! Tthey keep up the smoking and they

will

> find out what lung disease is all about, and it surely will open

their

> selfish eyes.

>

> Best wishes for a better new year,

> love,

> M

>

>

>

>

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Deb,

I understand your frustration.You've hit many points i addressed in

my previous post.Just like you I agree whats most important is the

health of your children.You have every right to stand up for their

well being; our kids DEPEND on us to do that for them.Don't worry

about being nice to your father-in-law.If he didn't feel bad about

jeopardizing your childrens' health, why should you feel bad about

correcting him?

I have not intended to upset you, believe me I'm on your side,100%!No

matter what our choices, addictions, or otherwise, I'm all for not

hurting others while doing that.(Here in Florida when it comes to

dining out we dont even have the option to hurt others, theres no

smoking in ANY food establishment, and you'll never hear me argue

because it IS best for all concerned)

So, no more Ms. Nice Guy and lay down the law!!!With any luck he'll

come around.For the kids' sake I hope so!

Best of luck,

Patty, mom to Ty,8wcf and 2little ones wocf

> In a message dated 12/26/2003 4:55:45 PM Central Standard Time,

> hark523@y... writes:

> Patty,

> I know that smoking is an addiction but they can be addicted and

not expose

> everyone else. Just because they have a problem doesn't mean

everyone else

> around them will suffer. This is a habit they choose to do just

like I choose not

> to. My girls did not choose to have CF!! Nor did they choose to

have uncaring

> grandparents. But they have to deal with it!! I am tired of being

nice about

> it and now I am going to let them know how I feel!! Deb A

>

>

>

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Patty,

I used to smoke also. So did my husband. When Abby was diagnosed, we

both stopped imediately. It wasn't too hard for us. I guess that we

weren't very heavy smokers. Anyway, I replaced smoking with eating

and have gained plenty of weight. I am REALLY protective of my lungs

now. I hope that they are healthy enough that Abby can have a lobe

(living donor transplant), should it ever come to that.

Buy the way... Is anyone familir with directed donor " paperwork. I

hear that you can identify a recipient for your organs (they get first

dibs).

Have a safe New Year's!

Gale

> > For those who are addicted to smoking. They only can see what time

> it is

> > and when the next cigarette will be. I am a former smoker and I

> can testify

> > that it was the hardest thing I have ever quit in my life. You

> really don't

> > realize just how much the smoke the residue and the whole thing

> really

> > effects everyone around you.

> >

> > It is our job as parents and grandparents to make sure our children

> are not

> > exposed to that and that we teach those who don't understand. Even

> when

> > they don't want to be taught.

> >

> > Keep on keepin on.

> >

> > Tina W

> >

> > Re: I need to blow some steam off!!!!!!

> >

> >

> > Dear Deb,

> > I have one thing to say and that is that this totally sucks!! I am

> so

> > thankful no one in either of our families smokes! Good lord I can't

> > understand how they could smoke around your girls who have LUNG

> DISEASE

> > through no fault of their own!! Tthey keep up the smoking and they

> will

> > find out what lung disease is all about, and it surely will open

> their

> > selfish eyes.

> >

> > Best wishes for a better new year,

> > love,

> > M

> >

> >

> >

> >

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,

I hope you werent talking about the quilt. I do not smoke and no one smokes

in my house. My sister sent my boys clothes throught he mail, from Ohio, When I

went and picked up the box - the whole box smelled like smoke. Anyway,

apparently they smoke in the trucks, wharehouses, etc???

If it was the quilt, the smoke smell was not because of me.

Vondie

Lastly, I just want to say that someone sent me something in the mail recently

and when I got it, it smelled of cigarettes. Now mind you it traveled for a

couple of days before it make its way to us and yet it smelled as if the person

was standing right in front of me with thier cigarette. Just one more example

of the power of second hand smoke.