Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 le, If your kids tolerate cow's milk yogurt, then that's great! But many of these kids don't and so Goat's milk is the only way to go. What kind of goat's milk are you using? Mine has a little bit of after taste but its not too bad. I like it once its dripped. Charlene UC 8 years SCD 6 years I read on the BTVC site that Elaine says that the casein in yoghurt is denatured to a 2 dimnesional structure so it should not be a concern. So why do we need to use goat yoghurt? Is it just becasue as parents of ASD kids, we have had it drilled into our heads - " NO Dairy!! " I think the goats milk yoghurt is nasty I would much prefer to feed my kids the cows milk yoghurt. The first batch of yoghurt I made was cow's milk and we ate that just fine. But this batch is goats milk. I just made myself a smoothie and I thought I was going to puke! Yucky after- taste! I don't want to feed my kids something that I wouldn't eat myself. Any thoughts? le Zack 8yrs ASD 2 weeks SCD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/525 - Release Date: 11/9/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 You don't have to use goat yogurt. You can use cow. We started out with goat because most people can tolerate the goat even if they can't tolerate the cow yogurt. Our dan dietician did tell me that goat dairy products are much easier on the digestive system. I tried cow because it is so much less expensive, and my son had no behavioral or gi changes. Our dietician did tell me that if you're going to use cow milk for making the yogurt, you should go organic. She says that it is the one thing that she really pushes people to use organic even if they can't afford to do everything...or most things...organic. Meleah Goat v. Cow I read on the BTVC site that Elaine says that the casein in yoghurt is denatured to a 2 dimnesional structure so it should not be a concern. So why do we need to use goat yoghurt? Is it just becasue as parents of ASD kids, we have had it drilled into our heads - " NO Dairy!! " I think the goats milk yoghurt is nasty I would much prefer to feed my kids the cows milk yoghurt. The first batch of yoghurt I made was cow's milk and we ate that just fine. But this batch is goats milk. I just made myself a smoothie and I thought I was going to puke! Yucky after- taste! I don't want to feed my kids something that I wouldn't eat myself. Any thoughts? le Zack 8yrs ASD 2 weeks SCD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 > > I read on the BTVC site that Elaine says that the casein in yoghurt is > denatured to a 2 dimnesional structure so it should not be a concern. > So why do we need to use goat yoghurt? Is it just becasue as parents of > ASD kids, we have had it drilled into our heads - " NO Dairy!! " I think > the goats milk yoghurt is nasty I would much prefer to feed my kids > the cows milk yoghurt. The first batch of yoghurt I made was cow's > milk and we ate that just fine. But this batch is goats milk. I just > made myself a smoothie and I thought I was going to puke! Yucky after- > taste! I don't want to feed my kids something that I wouldn't eat > myself. Any thoughts? > le > Zack 8yrs ASD > 2 weeks SCD > Goat vs. Cow Yogurt From the Pecanbread Website Goat Milk Composition (from www.dgc.co.nz/about.html) For hundreds of years, goat milk has been regarded as the closest milk to human milk. While at the gross compositional level the amount of fat and protein is similar to that in cow milk, there are significant differences between the types of fat, protein and minor components present. When compared with cow milk, goat milk is considered to provide advantages due to the following factors: The fat in goat milk is in smaller globules. Smaller fat globules provide a greater surface area for enzymes to break down the particles, enabling easier digestion. In addition, goat milk lacks 'agglutinin', a factor present in cow milk that makes fat globules in milk clump together. Goat milk fat contains a significantly greater proportion of short and medium chain triglycerides (MCTs) than cow milk fat, which contributes to more rapid digestion. Goat milk is higher in caproic (C6), caprylic (C8), capric (C10), which total 16% in goat milk (compared with 7% in cow milk). They have been used to treat malabsorption symptoms, intestinal disorders, premature infant feeding etc. Goat milk forms smaller, softer, more easily digested curds in the infant stomach, which eases the digestive process. Goat milk, due to absence or low levels of alpha-s1-casein, produces curds that are weaker and less firm than cow milk. Goat milk has better buffering capacity than cow milk at the pH-temperature conditions that exist in the stomach. This can be very useful for those with gastric ulcers. Goat milk contains bio-active factors such as insulin-like growth factor. Posted by carol F. SCD 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I think I will go with the cow. Zack has never had any of those factors in his blood work that indicates sensitivity to gluten or casein but I kept him of GF/CF just in case. We used the cows milk yoghurt last week and he had his first toally normal human looking " poop " ever. I was so excited that I think I scared him! I just wish one of you guys lived near Richmond so I could give you this goat yoghurt. I worked so hard on it! I have to get to work. We leave on Sunday for our revisit appointment at the Institutes in Philadelphia and I have to bring a week's worth of food with me for Zack! Thanks! le mom of Zack 8 yrs ASD SCD 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Cows milk also contains other bacteria & toxins than goat's milk. My opinion is if you'd just get rid of all the milk products for a month or so, you could definitely see if cow's milk was actually causing any problems or not. The cow's milk makes my daughter have sinus infections/colds from all the bacteria in it. Also, if cow's milk denature's down to a 2-D structure and it starts out as a more complex structure than the goat's milk to begin with, than maybe the goat's milk breaking down even further would be a direct benefit too, if you think about it. Also, all the bad stuff you're putting into your body that's in cow's milk, (my uncle who is a farmer actually calls it cowpuss) could be causing your healing delay. When we started, we did nut yogurt first for quite a while before we tried to reintroduce the casein in the goat's milk. Our bodies have to heal from point A to B, it doesn't happen overnight and it doesn't happen by loading in the toxins. It's a process and being fanatically compliant is necessary to see healing. Hang in there! Some of the initial reaction the kids are giving to the new tastes of SCD, is a good sign. Think of this as almost like detox. Our bodies are used to accepting garbage, truckload after truckload on the SAD, so SCD is a huge difference! They will eat when they get hungry. Make a bunch of stuff so that you have plenty of choices for them to choose from. Eventually, they will choose something. This was also the hardest part for me. Do not give into their non-SCD cravings even if they get aggressive. This can start the die-off process and trigger the body to heal. Best of luck and I'm always around if you want to talk. jlessard1@... Jenn & K Goat v. Cow I read on the BTVC site that Elaine says that the casein in yoghurt is denatured to a 2 dimnesional structure so it should not be a concern. So why do we need to use goat yoghurt? Is it just becasue as parents of ASD kids, we have had it drilled into our heads - " NO Dairy!! " I think the goats milk yoghurt is nasty I would much prefer to feed my kids the cows milk yoghurt. The first batch of yoghurt I made was cow's milk and we ate that just fine. But this batch is goats milk. I just made myself a smoothie and I thought I was going to puke! Yucky after- taste! I don't want to feed my kids something that I wouldn't eat myself. Any thoughts? le Zack 8yrs ASD 2 weeks SCD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Hi le, > I read on the BTVC site that Elaine says that the casein in yoghurt is > denatured to a 2 dimnesional structure so it should not be a concern. > So why do we need to use goat yoghurt? Is it just becasue as parents of > ASD kids, we have had it drilled into our heads You don't need to use goat yogurt. Some use the goat yogurt because the milk proteins are much smaller in goat's milk yogurt than in cow milk yogurt, which makes the goat's yogurt easier to digest. If your family can tolerate/digest the cow milk yogurt you can certainly use that. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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