Re: very hungry kiddos & pickles

[Guest guest]

My ASD son doesn't usually have undigested food in his stools,

except for corn but he can't have that anymore! I can't tell if he's

chewing good; I'm just trying to make everything soft for him, but

still pick up food.

He did have a little diahrea today; day 4. I gave him a few baked

pears today. He loved them so much but I wonder if that was it. The

stools seemed " yeasty " ; how do I know if it's die off or a pear

problem? I guess I " ll know becz there are no more so he won't have

them tomorrow & I'll see how he is.

When can they have pickles? My ASD son loves pickles & I buy the

kind without any vinegar or sugar. Also, when are jarred green

olives & canned black olives allowed? (I'm craving them like crazy).

Thanks, Michele

>

> It's very typical to see huge appetites. At this point, they may

still be craving carbs.... and it's more like the bad guys in

their guts are saying " GO GET WHAT WE NEED TO SURVIVE!!! " ....

rather than them being truly hungry due to needing more calories. As

they switch over to this new way of digesting food, it *should* get

better with time.

>

> In the meantime, you may find you have to cook twice as much of

everything...... I mean, when chickens go on sale, buy TWO whole

chickens and roast them BOTH. As long as you have the oven going,

you might as well cook two, right? Not that much extra work. You'll

find your fridge is overflowing and your pantry is almost empty.

>

> Too bad you can't hire a teenager to come in and help you in the

kitchen for a few hours a week. Might be a good idea.

>

> If your son chews his food well, nothing needs to be pureed.....

but keep in mind that everything needs to be easy to digest at

first. Maybe some things could just be well mashed, if he's not a

great chewer?

>

> Patti

> Day 3 - very hungry kiddos

>

>

> My kids are typically tough to satisfy, but they'be been quite

cranky

> about looking for food a lot since starting SCD. I don't feel

like I

> can keep up with the amount of food I'm cooking to keep them

satisfied

> ( & they don't like everything but I'm trying).

>

> Is this kind of huge appetite typical in starting the diet, &

will it

> level off at some point?

>

> Perhaps their bodies are looking for the GFCF grainy snack foods

they

> were having. I'm not sure how to satisfy them without going

broke - &

> falling over I'm so tired! (I'm on it myself).

>

> FYI, we finished intro yesterday. I added in some squash (very

little)

> today. They had a tiny bit of almond flour that was mixed into

some

> chicken pancakes for dinner.

>

> Question - must the squash be pureed? My ASD son does not eat

pureed

> foods.

>

> Thanks, Michele

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pickles and olives and such are a little further down the road. They're not

cooked. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd be suspicious if I were craving the

olives...unless you're expecting again. It's another sign that your enemies

in the gut are dying. You're going to have to get through the pealed,

deseeded, and cooked phase before you can think about anything raw. That

will be several months more than likely. Don't move too quickly because you

think that you guys are doing so great. Also since you are all doing scd,

remember that just because one or several of you are ready to introduce a

new food, it doesn't mean that everyone is. You don't want to set anyone

back by giving them something that they aren't ready for because the rest of

the family can handle it.

Meleah scd 05/06

iel 3.5yrs. asd, Ethan 5yrs., Mark 18mths., both nt

Day 3 - very hungry kiddos

>>

>>

>> My kids are typically tough to satisfy, but they'be been quite

> cranky

>> about looking for food a lot since starting SCD. I don't feel

> like I

>> can keep up with the amount of food I'm cooking to keep them

> satisfied

>> ( & they don't like everything but I'm trying).

>>

>> Is this kind of huge appetite typical in starting the diet, &

> will it

>> level off at some point?

>>

>> Perhaps their bodies are looking for the GFCF grainy snack foods

> they

>> were having. I'm not sure how to satisfy them without going

> broke - &

>> falling over I'm so tired! (I'm on it myself).

>>

>> FYI, we finished intro yesterday. I added in some squash (very

> little)

>> today. They had a tiny bit of almond flour that was mixed into

> some

>> chicken pancakes for dinner.

>>

>> Question - must the squash be pureed? My ASD son does not eat

> pureed

>> foods.

>>

>> Thanks, Michele

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

No, I'm not expecting so maybe it is die off. It's *really* bad

craving. I want those green olives especially!

It's tough to get one going further without the others. How do you

balance that? I think my ASD son will take longer to come around for

many things (as well as myself possibly becz we're more damaged),

although the pears didn't seem to bother me. I'm actually

constipated right now more then anything.

I think I'm getting the most die off symptoms of anyone here so far.

I'm breaking out, tired (but then the extra work is part of that

too), got all my CFS symptoms bad. Last night I couldn't even fall

asleep my legs & feet were hurting so bad; lots of aches & pains.

I'll take more charcoal tonight; maybe that will help.

The kiddos seem to be fairing quite well so far... not sure what

that means.

Thanks, Michele

> >>

> >> It's very typical to see huge appetites. At this point, they may

> > still be craving carbs.... and it's more like the bad guys in

> > their guts are saying " GO GET WHAT WE NEED TO SURVIVE!!! " ....

> > rather than them being truly hungry due to needing more

calories. As

> > they switch over to this new way of digesting food, it *should*

get

> > better with time.

> >>

> >> In the meantime, you may find you have to cook twice as much of

> > everything...... I mean, when chickens go on sale, buy TWO

whole

> > chickens and roast them BOTH. As long as you have the oven going,

> > you might as well cook two, right? Not that much extra work.

You'll

> > find your fridge is overflowing and your pantry is almost empty.

> >>

> >> Too bad you can't hire a teenager to come in and help you in the

> > kitchen for a few hours a week. Might be a good idea.

> >>

> >> If your son chews his food well, nothing needs to be pureed.....

> > but keep in mind that everything needs to be easy to digest at

> > first. Maybe some things could just be well mashed, if he's not a

> > great chewer?

> >>

> >> Patti

> >> Day 3 - very hungry kiddos

> >>

> >>

> >> My kids are typically tough to satisfy, but they'be been quite

> > cranky

> >> about looking for food a lot since starting SCD. I don't feel

> > like I

> >> can keep up with the amount of food I'm cooking to keep them

> > satisfied

> >> ( & they don't like everything but I'm trying).

> >>

> >> Is this kind of huge appetite typical in starting the diet, &

> > will it

> >> level off at some point?

> >>

> >> Perhaps their bodies are looking for the GFCF grainy snack

foods

> > they

> >> were having. I'm not sure how to satisfy them without going

> > broke - &

> >> falling over I'm so tired! (I'm on it myself).

> >>

> >> FYI, we finished intro yesterday. I added in some squash (very

> > little)

> >> today. They had a tiny bit of almond flour that was mixed into

> > some

> >> chicken pancakes for dinner.

> >>

> >> Question - must the squash be pureed? My ASD son does not eat

> > pureed

> >> foods.

> >>

> >> Thanks, Michele

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Well, I'd definitely say that it's die off then. Just don't give in. I

guess what you could do regarding some family members moving to new foods

more quickly than others is this. Try a new food. If it appears that

someone can tolerate it, then you could make that food in a large batch to

freeze. Then, give it to the person for snacks or whatever if it won't

cause problems with the other kids. If it does cause some issues, or you

can't trust the other kids not to eat the food if they see it, then I say

just have everyone eat the same thing. It won't kill anyone. For the achey

legs, have you had your iron checked recently? My sister-in-law and I both

get restless legs frequently...sometimes during the day, but mostly at

night...and it keeps us from sleeping well. One night when she couldn't

sleep, my sister-in-law got on the web and googled " resless legs syndrome " .

I think that she found several possible causes...one being iron

deficiency...but they were primarily nutrient deficiency reasons. Make sure

you've got a good prenatal, a calcium, a probiotic, and iron if you need

that, too. You might want to google it to see what else you can find out.

Meleah scd 05/06

iel 3.5yrs. asd, Ethan 5yrs., Mark 18mths., both nt

Day 3 - very hungry kiddos

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> My kids are typically tough to satisfy, but they'be been quite

>> > cranky

>> >> about looking for food a lot since starting SCD. I don't feel

>> > like I

>> >> can keep up with the amount of food I'm cooking to keep them

>> > satisfied

>> >> ( & they don't like everything but I'm trying).

>> >>

>> >> Is this kind of huge appetite typical in starting the diet, &

>> > will it

>> >> level off at some point?

>> >>

>> >> Perhaps their bodies are looking for the GFCF grainy snack

> foods

>> > they

>> >> were having. I'm not sure how to satisfy them without going

>> > broke - &

>> >> falling over I'm so tired! (I'm on it myself).

>> >>

>> >> FYI, we finished intro yesterday. I added in some squash (very

>> > little)

>> >> today. They had a tiny bit of almond flour that was mixed into

>> > some

>> >> chicken pancakes for dinner.

>> >>

>> >> Question - must the squash be pureed? My ASD son does not eat

>> > pureed

>> >> foods.

>> >>

>> >> Thanks, Michele

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

[Guest guest]

A lot of times the kids eat different things, but it's tough for me

to give certain fruits to just the other kids becz my autistic

kiddos loves fruits. He was so happy to be given a cooked pear

yesterday because he normally gets *no* fruits at all. I'll just go

slower with that stuff or make applesauce which he won't eat but the

others will.

The iron thing is interesting. I'm always borderline anemic but I do

take iron supps. It hadn't been too bad until this week, so I was

hoping it might be die off again. I'll make sure I keep up taking my

iron supps & prenatal.

Thank you, Michele

> >> >>

> >> >> It's very typical to see huge appetites. At this point, they

may

> >> > still be craving carbs.... and it's more like the bad guys

in

> >> > their guts are saying " GO GET WHAT WE NEED TO SURVIVE!!! " ....

> >> > rather than them being truly hungry due to needing more

> > calories. As

> >> > they switch over to this new way of digesting food, it

*should*

> > get

> >> > better with time.

> >> >>

> >> >> In the meantime, you may find you have to cook twice as much

of

> >> > everything...... I mean, when chickens go on sale, buy TWO

> > whole

> >> > chickens and roast them BOTH. As long as you have the oven

going,

> >> > you might as well cook two, right? Not that much extra work.

> > You'll

> >> > find your fridge is overflowing and your pantry is almost

empty.

> >> >>

> >> >> Too bad you can't hire a teenager to come in and help you in

the

> >> > kitchen for a few hours a week. Might be a good idea.

> >> >>

> >> >> If your son chews his food well, nothing needs to be

pureed.....

> >> > but keep in mind that everything needs to be easy to digest at

> >> > first. Maybe some things could just be well mashed, if he's

not a

> >> > great chewer?

> >> >>

> >> >> Patti

> >> >> Day 3 - very hungry kiddos

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> My kids are typically tough to satisfy, but they'be been

quite

> >> > cranky

> >> >> about looking for food a lot since starting SCD. I don't

feel

> >> > like I

> >> >> can keep up with the amount of food I'm cooking to keep

them

> >> > satisfied

> >> >> ( & they don't like everything but I'm trying).

> >> >>

> >> >> Is this kind of huge appetite typical in starting the

diet, &

> >> > will it

> >> >> level off at some point?

> >> >>

> >> >> Perhaps their bodies are looking for the GFCF grainy snack

> > foods

> >> > they

> >> >> were having. I'm not sure how to satisfy them without going

> >> > broke - &

> >> >> falling over I'm so tired! (I'm on it myself).

> >> >>

> >> >> FYI, we finished intro yesterday. I added in some squash

(very

> >> > little)

> >> >> today. They had a tiny bit of almond flour that was mixed

into

> >> > some

> >> >> chicken pancakes for dinner.

> >> >>

> >> >> Question - must the squash be pureed? My ASD son does not

eat

> >> > pureed

> >> >> foods.

> >> >>

> >> >> Thanks, Michele

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>