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Just a comment on the enzymes....

Cameron was orginally taking an enzyme that he had to take 4-5 with meals and

2-3 with snacks. Now he takes Creon, which is 1 with each meal...nothing

with snacks. As long as he's careful in chosing low, low fat foods, he does

fine.

I, on the other hand, had never been prescribed enzymes, just the acid

reducers twice a day. Recently, we went on a family trip...and to cut down on

the

hours I spent in the bathroom and my family spent waiting on me....I tried

taking one of Cam's Creon pill prior to eating. This helped all but 2 times. I

don't know why the 2 times it didn't help, but on those 2 meals, I was doing the

typical dash to the facility~ We were at the Texas coast, so all meals were

grilled or steamed seafood.

I can say, when I took the Creon on ALL ocassions, my stomach was much more

comfortable. No bloating or sharp pains of discomfort, which usually are a

part of every meal these days.

Just wanted to comment.

Donna Womack

Fort Worth, TX

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Donna,

sounds like you definitely need to talk to your doctor about prescribing

enzymes for you to take. They really do make a difference. I know I'd

probably be in the ER a lot more without them. And probably wouldn't be

able to keep my weight at where it currently is. Mind you, I could stand

to lose some eight, but not like this.

You take it easy.

Kimber

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The Zyme-Prime enzymes are legal on SCD. I can't say whether they will help him

gain weight or not. I have used them in the past with my daughter but she did

not have the same issues.

If you add potatoes or other illegal foods, then he will no longer be on SCD.

Going off SCD is up to you.... but just know that you can't add enzymes and

potatoes and still be on the diet. Enzymes or not, SCD is SCD.

If you've been giving him magnesium oxide or citrate, both of those are pretty

laxative.... so going with the glycinate is a good idea.

Are you using avocado? That would be a great way to add calories and healthy

fat.

Patti

Enzymes

Hello everyone.

my son is 27 months old, been on scd 11 months, diagnosed with PDD on

the Autism spectrum. He is doing well but is SO SKINNY, his pants

just fall off him. Has anyone tried the Zyme Prime (capsules, NO

papain/bromelain/rice bran)?

Does it work with the SCD diet?

Does it do any damage to the intestines?

Can I add things like potatoes and such to his diet?

Can long chain carbs get digested?

Is it useful?

Too harsh?

his stools have been traditionally loose. In the past they were 2 or

more colors but now are going more towards singularly brown.

I will be changing his magnesium to Magnesium Glycinate to help stop

the loose stools.

If I give him the Zyme Prime, do you think it would put a few pounds

on him?

thank you.

, mom to broderick, SCD 11 months, PDD

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You asked:

<<so basically you are saying that a potato or something will still

have the negative effect (stimming) whether or not I add an enzyme.

Correct? >>

A potato (or some other illegal starch or grain) will have the negative effect

of feeding the bad bacteria that cause damage to the gut.

The premise of SCD is not just to keep out foods that cause stimming (or

whatever other negative behavior)... this is a very different premise than

GF/CF.

The goal of SCD is to starve out the bad bacteria, allowing the gut to heal.

Eventually, after enough time, the gut can completely heal enough to some day be

able to tolerate going off the diet. That time period will be different for each

person.

There are plenty of nutrient-dense, higher calorie foods allowed on SCD. Does he

eat nut butters? Macadamia nut butter is especially rich. What about goat

cheeses? You can also incorporate all kinds of healthy fats.... butter or ghee,

SCD mayo, coconut oil and other healthy oils, etc.

If he has limited tummy space, I would try to feed him more often.... small

meals, with higher calorie foods.

Patti

Re: Enzymes

thanks for the reply. I do give him avocado when I have it, can't

always find a good one.

so basically you are saying that a potato or something will still

have the negative effect (stimming) whether or not I add an enzyme.

Correct?

I just don't want to see him so thin. He doesn't eat much

anyway so I was thinking if I could add in some fattening types of

food it would help. There is a very limited space in his tummy.

I hope that changing the magnesium will help.

thanks.

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thanks for replying. Yes I do understand the premis of starving the

bad bacteria. I just wasn't sure if the enzyme changed the carbs in

such a way that they would not be food for the bad bacteria. I was

hoping it would!

He has a lot of sensory issues outside and inside his mouth. He

will not eat soft foods. He used to eat muffins but has stopped so

it's hard to get any nut butters in there. No sandwiches, no

breads, no cookies, no mayo, ketchup or any kind of sauces. Will

only have a drink of yogurt w/fruit in a.m. and then lunch and a

dinner. will not eat any snacks at any time of day. I'll try to

add more avocado. I had coconut oil for a while. He can't eat any

cheeses - he reacts strongly to the casein.

I will try the smaller meals, but it's hard for me to not feed him

when he is actually willing to eat more.

thank you again.

, mom to broderick, PDD, SCD 11 months

>

> ,

>

> You asked:

>

> <<so basically you are saying that a potato or something will

still

> have the negative effect (stimming) whether or not I add an

enzyme.

> Correct? >>

>

> A potato (or some other illegal starch or grain) will have the

negative effect of feeding the bad bacteria that cause damage to the

gut.

>

> The premise of SCD is not just to keep out foods that cause

stimming (or whatever other negative behavior)... this is a very

different premise than GF/CF.

>

> The goal of SCD is to starve out the bad bacteria, allowing the

gut to heal. Eventually, after enough time, the gut can completely

heal enough to some day be able to tolerate going off the diet. That

time period will be different for each person.

>

> There are plenty of nutrient-dense, higher calorie foods allowed

on SCD. Does he eat nut butters? Macadamia nut butter is especially

rich. What about goat cheeses? You can also incorporate all kinds of

healthy fats.... butter or ghee, SCD mayo, coconut oil and other

healthy oils, etc.

>

> If he has limited tummy space, I would try to feed him more

often.... small meals, with higher calorie foods.

>

> Patti

>

> Re: Enzymes

>

>

> thanks for the reply. I do give him avocado when I have it,

can't

> always find a good one.

> so basically you are saying that a potato or something will

still

> have the negative effect (stimming) whether or not I add an

enzyme.

> Correct?

> I just don't want to see him so thin. He doesn't eat much

> anyway so I was thinking if I could add in some fattening types

of

> food it would help. There is a very limited space in his tummy.

>

> I hope that changing the magnesium will help.

>

> thanks.

>

>

>

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