Re: Are candex and vegetable stearate legal etc?

[Guest guest]

Hi Maureen,

> The legal additives list shows " Magnesium stearate " . Is " vegetable

> Stearate " the same thing?

No. Vegetable stearate is a free flow agent/binder produced from

stearic acid that comes from vegetables - it is legal in

supplements. Magnesium sterate is a magnesium salt which can come

from either beef or vegetable sources - it is also legal in

supplements.

> Also is Candex " Yeast Management System " ,legal?

Yes.

>

> My son follows the diet very strictly but he also takes (via our

DAN

> doctor's advice) the following probiotics which are illegal --

> " Cultrelle " and " Probiotic Support Formula " from New Beginnings

> (which I believe is illegal).

Yes, both of these are illegal. " Culturelle " contains inulin

(illegal - it promotes growth of harmful microbes) and Lactobacillus

gg which is not an SCD recommended probiotic bacteria.

The " Probiotic Support formula " contains a number of illegal

probiotic strains including Bifidobacteria.

You can read more on " Inulin " at

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/g_to_o.htm

He has been on SCD for five months

> now. He started out very well (first two months)and then things

have

> gone down hill since. We started the probiotics at about 6 weeks

> into the diet. So now I'm thinking about going against the

doctor's

> advice and stop the " Cultrelle " and " Probiotic Support Formula " and

> go with the Kirkman " Lactobacillus Acidophilus " . I'm also the same

> person whose DAN doctor advised the VSL3 to replace the " Probiotic

> Support Formula " . My doctor is all for the SCD diet though.

Although some doctors are for SCD, many of them are not familiar with

the reasons why some supplements etc. are considered SCD illegal.

Over the past 5.5 yrs I have read of many people whose doctors meant

well in prescribing something that was considered SCD illegal but

these people ended up in flares or with setbacks.

>

> He also takes " Inositol Powder " from New Beginnings -- does anyone

> know if it is legal?

Inositol is a sugar alcohol and is illegal as a supplement. (a teeny

amount in a supplement is " okay " - but may cause bowel problems).

If he is taking a lot of this indigestible by human powder, it will

feed the bifidobacterium and any other nasties still in his gut.

> He also takes: Selenium Liquid, Zinc,

Legal

>Chelate Mate,

SCD legal but please read section in BTVC about mineral

supplementation.

>Allicillin Liquid (from Garlic),

legal.

>Basic Nutrients Plus from New Beginnings,

Legal, please see section in BTVC about vitamin supplementation.

> MCT Liquid,

> and Grape Fruit seed extract, and B-12 shots every 3 days.

These three are all SCD legal.

> He is 10 years old and has become increasingly more self abusive

> since about age 5. He now slams his body into the ground, hits his

> head with his hands extremely hard & head bangs against whatever is

a

> hard surface. The first two months of diet the self abusive

behavior

> significantly reduced but now it is worse than ever. I don't want

to

> give up on the diet so I'm sticking with it. Appreciate advice.

What foods is he eating now?

Have you done the intro at any point?

Do you use any of the yogurt: Cow, goat or nut?

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

My advice would be to pull out all illegal supplements including the

probiotics, and switch to legal forms. I know that the B12 shots are fine,

and you can use the Kirkman probiotic that you mentioned. Someone else

should be able to advise you on whether the other supps he's on are legal.

The fact the you saw improvement in the first two months, and then saw

behavior diteriorate after that...which coincides with introduction to

certain illegal(and maybe even legal) supps is a red flag that you saw as

well. Sometimes, a legal supp will just not " agree " with a person. I would

go back to the intro. You can pull all supps, start at intro with a legal

probiotic, and then gradually introduce new foods and supps from there. The

other option would be to go back to intro, and just pull all illegal supps.

Hope this helps.

Meleah scd 05/06

iel 3.5yrs. asd, Ethan 5yrs., Mark 18mths., both nt

Are candex and vegetable stearate legal etc?

> Hi!

> The legal additives list shows " Magnesium stearate " . Is " vegetable

> Stearate " the same thing?

> Also is Candex " Yeast Management System " ,legal?

>

> My son follows the diet very strictly but he also takes (via our DAN

> doctor's advice) the following probiotics which are illegal --

> " Cultrelle " and " Probiotic Support Formula " from New Beginnings

> (which I believe is illegal). He has been on SCD for five months

> now. He started out very well (first two months)and then things have

> gone down hill since. We started the probiotics at about 6 weeks

> into the diet. So now I'm thinking about going against the doctor's

> advice and stop the " Cultrelle " and " Probiotic Support Formula " and

> go with the Kirkman " Lactobacillus Acidophilus " . I'm also the same

> person whose DAN doctor advised the VSL3 to replace the " Probiotic

> Support Formula " . My doctor is all for the SCD diet though.

>

> He also takes " Inositol Powder " from New Beginnings -- does anyone

> know if it is legal?

>

> He also takes: Selenium Liquid, Zinc, Chelate Mate, Allicillin Liquid

> (from Garlic), Basic Nutrients Plus from New Beginnings, MCT Liquid,

> and Grape Fruit seed extract, and B-12 shots every 3 days.

>

> He is 10 years old and has become increasingly more self abusive

> since about age 5. He now slams his body into the ground, hits his

> head with his hands extremely hard & head bangs against whatever is a

> hard surface. The first two months of diet the self abusive behavior

> significantly reduced but now it is worse than ever. I don't want to

> give up on the diet so I'm sticking with it. Appreciate advice.

>

> Thanks,

> Maureen

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

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