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> I wanted to see if someone can verify whether shredded or sliced cheese can be

used

with scd. I know that it must be scd legal types like cheddar, swiss, ect. I

had been

buying it in brick only. Is sliced or shredded OK, or do they do something to

it in the

slicing and shredding that I don't know about? Thanks.

> Meleah scd 05/06

> iel 3yrs., asd Ethan 5yrs., Mark 1yr.

>

If you mean oackaged shredded cheddar or swiss, yes but not grated parmesan as a

binder is often added. I shred my own cheese in the food processor in seconds,

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

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Avoid pre-shredded cheese. They have to add something to it to keep it from

sticking together.

I guess it just depends on the sliced cheese. I would probably trust Tillamook

(might not be available outside the Pacific Northwest??) slices, because they

package those with waxed paper in between each slice and I don't think they add

anything. I just only buy the big 2lb bricks of cheese because I can't afford

the pre-sliced.

Of course, if you bought cheese in a deli and had them slice it for you, it

would be no different than slicing it yourself at home.

Patti

scd cheese

I wanted to see if someone can verify whether shredded or sliced cheese can be

used with scd. I know that it must be scd legal types like cheddar, swiss, ect.

I had been buying it in brick only. Is sliced or shredded OK, or do they do

something to it in the slicing and shredding that I don't know about? Thanks.

Meleah scd 05/06

iel 3yrs., asd Ethan 5yrs., Mark 1yr.

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Carol, They do add stuff to much of the packaged pre-shredded cheddar and other

types of cheese to keep it from sticking together. I guess you'd have to read

the label to be sure.

Patti

Re: scd cheese

If you mean oackaged shredded cheddar or swiss, yes but not grated parmesan as

a

binder is often added. I shred my own cheese in the food processor in seconds,

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

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>> If you mean oackaged shredded cheddar or swiss, yes but not grated

parmesan as a binder is often added. I shred my own cheese in the food

processor in seconds, <<

Carol,

Packaged shredded cheddar or swiss is NOT legal. Commercially grated

cheeses often use POTATO STARCH as an anti-caking agent.

-- Marilyn (New Orleans, Louisiana, USA)

Undiagnosed IBS 25 Years, SCD Five Years

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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> > >> If you mean oackaged shredded cheddar or swiss, yes but not grated

> > parmesan as a binder is often added. I shred my own cheese in the food

> > processor in seconds, <<

> >

> > Carol,

> >

> > Packaged shredded cheddar or swiss is NOT legal. Commercially grated

> > cheeses often use POTATO STARCH as an anti-caking agent.

> >

> Thanks Marilyn. I have never used packaged shredded cheese but looked at the

label

and

> did not see mention of additives on the label.

>

> I will try and contact Kraft and if they use them I will blast them for non

disclosure even

if

> it is not required under that 2% law.

My email to Kraft:

I am disappointed in your telephone customer service support.

I asked if any caking agents are added to packaged shredded cheese. i was told i

must buy

the product first and the gluten content or lack of it cannot be disclosed

otherwise. My

concern is not just with gluten as the diet I follow prohibits starch as well.

I belong to a community of hundreds of thiusands that follow The Specific

Carbohydrate

Diet. We have a number of online support groups who need such information. The

one I

currently help moderate has nearly 3000 members.

I am asking about cheeses like shredded cheddar or Swiss. We cannot use

Mozzarella as it

contains lactose.

If you cannot respond without me making a purchase of a product that may be

toxic I will

advise our members to buy imported cheese or shred bulk cheese in a food

processor.

>

> Carol F.

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That's a shame! I know when I was shopping the other day - I was on the

phone with three different companies (cell phones and 800 numbers are great)

Dole was especially helpful. I was able to ascertain that " other natural

flavors " were amino acids derived from fruits.

I simply explained about my " food allergies " .

It was also good to find out about the new US food labeling - the top 8

allergens now have to be noted on the food labels - regardless of quantity.

I haven't actually checked the USDA web site on that, yet. But, it is on my

list of things to do today.

So far I have found this really interesting web site on food additives:

http://www.ific.org/publications/brochures/foodingredandcolorsbroch.cfm

It, for me, since I love to really get into the depth of things, has

fascinating information on food additives, what they are called and where

they are most likely to be used.

Jazz

-- Re: scd cheese

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> Carol F.

>

Kraft Canada can kiss me goodbye. They said in order to get information

about additives I

would have to purchase a product. I askedthem if it turns out to have added

starch, what

did they suggest I do with it? I felt like telling them what to do and did.

I said I would

continue to use imported cheese or tcheeses from small niche companies that

respected

quality and disclosure.

Carol F.

Cheesed off!

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Jazz, the rule is to get it in writing on a hard copy. You have no idea who is

on the other end whether they know what they are talking about or not. They

could tell you anything. You are eating other things at a risk. Pearl

Jazz wrote:

That's a shame! I know when I was shopping the other day - I was on the

phone with three different companies (cell phones and 800 numbers are great)

Dole was especially helpful. I was able to ascertain that " other natural

flavors " were amino acids derived from fruits.

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Sorry to say, you really can't trust the " other natural flavors " , even if they

are supposedly " amino acids derived from fruits " . After all, sugar is " derived

from a plant " (sugar cane, sugar beets).

Also, even though MSG is not really an SCD issue, " natural flavors " can often be

a source of this substance that is very bothersome for many... and bad for the

brain:

Recognize hidden MSG:

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html

Patti

Re: Re: scd cheese

That's a shame! I know when I was shopping the other day - I was on the

phone with three different companies (cell phones and 800 numbers are great)

Dole was especially helpful. I was able to ascertain that " other natural

flavors " were amino acids derived from fruits.

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Yeah, I know I need to do the " in writing thing " . But, I figured I would

start with the phone calls. That way I could narrow down the products that

were even worth writing about. Like Carol F. was talking about with Kraft

Canada, sometimes you don't even want to follow up with a company due to how

their representative handled that first contact. Or, at least that is how

it is for me.

I am also doing some initial contacting through email. That will let me

know if I need to be doing some snail mail also.

I know that someone (can't remember who) asked if there is a centralized

list of shelf products that have been, for lack of a better term, certified.

I don't recall an answer to that one. Is there such a list? It would help

us to at least not have to wait until our letters came back - but, writing

them would still be a goodness. There is power in numbers and informing

companies of the ingredients that we would like kept out of our foods is a

step in the right direction.

Just a thought.

Jazz

Day 2 (cramping like a son-of-a-gun)

-- Re: Re: scd cheese

Jazz, the rule is to get it in writing on a hard copy. You have no idea who

is on the other end whether they know what they are talking about or not.

They could tell you anything. You are eating other things at a risk. Pearl

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Jazz,

You asked:

<<I know that someone (can't remember who) asked if there is a centralized

list of shelf products that have been, for lack of a better term, certified.

I don't recall an answer to that one. Is there such a list? >>

There really is no such list... and the main reason why is that it would

probably become outdated fairly quickly. We'd be afraid of someone referring to

an old list... we've already run into that problem in that the previously-legal

Dole pineapple has proven to be a problem now. It seems they've changed their

manufacturing process, without informing us! What audacity!

Anyway, even the products that have been " deemed " legal in the past by Elaine,

could always change. We hesitate to add to that list, using our own judgement as

to what is and is not legal, because of the potential for a situation similar to

the pineapple.

We just never know when a company is going to be bought out by a big

conglomerate, the recipes changed, the process changed (but maybe the label

changes lag behind, etc.). It's dangerous territory when we're talking about

people's health and well-being, not just their comfort and convenience. Sad, but

true.

Even if we could have enough influence to get through to a manufacturer and have

them change their ways... how can we ever guarantee that the staff will stay the

same, that the policies and practices will stay the same, that we can trust

these people with our health? We can't. :(

Patti... <<chanting- make your own, make your own, make your own...>>

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It was like pulling teeth to get this statement from Kraft who

obviously never heard if us, just the Gluten Free Diet.

" Cellulose Powder is a naturally occurring dietary fiber found in

fruits and vegetables, and all other plants (cellulose powder is NOT

derived from wheat).

It is used in both Grated and Shredded cheese products to keep them

from caking. "

******

Elaine always said my problem was having to have the last word. As

usual, she was right :-)

Dear Kraft,

The Specific Carbohydrate Diet prohibits the use of cellulose powder as

a food additive. It is a disaccharide and as such feeds harmful

bacteria in the intestinaltract of those with digestive diseases.

www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

For the fourth time, I did not ask about gluten. I asked a simple

question: " Does Kraft Shredded Cheddar Cheese contain an anti-caking

agent? " This is a question that only required a " yes " or " no "

The diet above was the diet of record for celiacs until a small study

by ten British doctors published in Lancet highlighted the Gluten Free

Diet.

Carol F.

Celiac, MCS, Latex Allergy, EMS

SCD 6 years

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