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LISA,

Your daughter sounds alot like my son. He is four now. We started the diet

back in mid august, basically to help with speech and eye contact, as he was

all of the sudden losing those skills.I understand where you are coming

from. My son didnt eat for a few days after starting either. I swore to

Patti that I would never get this kid to eat any cooked fruits at all. We

also had SEVERE DIE OFF that lasted at least two weeks. By day 4 or 5 he

broke down and ate a popsicle for me (cooked fruit frozen) No t really intro

food but I like you was deperate. the next day, out of the clear blue he ate

chicken soup....he has SEVERE food issues too...MASSIVE gag reflex at the

sight of certain foods.He continued to eat chicken soup. it was almost like

when you have a cold and thatss all you want to eat. I saw my son lay

around, drink only water,get a slight fever,have diarreah-bAD smelling, all

from the die off reaction. Your right, they tell you in the book there is a

die off reaction, but they dont say it can be BAD, REALLY BAD.I found a book

that has one moms recollection of initial die off, and how she thought she

was losing her mind...Its sounds like you are there...I was too. I posted to

these guys every day...and every day I got at least 4 to 5 replies. the most

help I got ever starting anything. My husband was planning to walk out, and

I am 5 mos pregnant, but somehow I believed in this and I am glad I did...It

really is amazing.He is eating and not gagging on foods he would NEVER eat.

I can help you if youd like, I am relatively new to this, but I know how bad

it is..REALLY. I cried every day for 2 weeks. In fact, we just went thru our

3 month die off. Just as fun as the first, but it was mostly behavioral in

nature. Yesterday he started coming out of it. Eating like a fiend(this is

what hapens after die off...your kid may eat like you have never seen

before, and foods (S)he wouldnt touch.He is also TALKING to us much more

than ever. He asked me You buy this for me mom? My son has never used more

than 2 to 3 words at a time. My son also went thru a period of heightened

sensory awareness-NO CLOTHES ON but PAJAMAS. Thats over for now too.

As for poop smearing, I know I went thru a period of this, around age 2. I

know they sell jumpsuits to " hinder this " We Used overalls with tough snaps

and let him throw a fit. He hated the overalls sooo much that it helped stop

the behavior.I dont know if if this is feasable for you.

The Name of the book with the SCD info in it is called AUTISM-Effective

Biomedical treatments Have we done everything we can for this Child? By two

DAN drs Dr. Jon Pangborn PHD and DR.Sidney Macdonald Baker. The thing that

set the light bulb off for me was a quote in the book by one of these

docs " SCD is one of the best treatments I have found so far for many children

on the autism spectrum. " I believe in this diet, I believe in this statement

and most of all I believe that My son can get better.I have had a lot of

help from this group, and I thank god for all of them every day!! I will do

everything I can to help, i fI dont know, I will direct you to a veteran

like Patti or Grammy Bauer. God bless you in this very difficult time. My

thoughts are with you. Please dont hesitate to email me back

DLR78@...

Rinehart Chicago Il.

MOM to Dylan Age 4 PDD NOS.

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>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP!? Daughter on diet 5 days and pooping

>everywhere!

>Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 01:26:35 -0500

>

>,

>

>This sounds to me like a horrrible die off reaction. I feel for you.

>My son also had a bad reaction and I almost quit the diet. I am glad

>that I continued because SCD is the right diet for him.

>

>Since your daughter is not transitioning from GFCF,why not give her

>the SCD yogurt? You had mentioned that she eats yogurt.

>If you decide to do it with goat milk,avoid the Meyenburg brand. That

>brand does not taste good. SCD yogurt made from cow milk might be OK

>for use during the transition time.

>

>How about doing a gradual transition to SCD? I remember one family

>took several weeks to transition their child to SCD. They took their

>child to a favorite playground and rewarded him for trying bits of new

>foods with a chance to ride on favorite equipment. Or you might try

>drops of the new foods mixed in her old foods and gradually increase

>the amount.

>

>Another option would be to try to get her to eat more gelatin and tough it

>out.

>

>Mimi

>

>

>

>

> > I really hope someone can help me!! My 3 yr. old daughter started

> > the diet 5 days ago. I shouldn't even say she's doing the 'diet'

> > because she's not - she just stopped eating.

> >

> > She never, ever ate good to begin with (Nutrigrain bars, toast,

> > yogurt, chicken nuggets. That's it.) but now she's not eating

> > anything since Wednesday. She had a small amount of Jello Tuesday

> > (made with Welch's Grape Juice) and that has been it. I made

> > homemade nuggets, applesauce, banana bread, peanut butter brownies,

> > everything I could think of that she might possible try. But nothing.

> >

> > I took her out of school this week and next week, thinking i'd have

> > her eating by the following Monday but it's not looking good at all.

> >

> > Here is my biggest dilema. She will not keep her clothes on or her

> > shoes. Nothing I put on her. She keeps taking her diaper off and

> > pooping on the floor (which is all diarrhea because she hasn't eaten

> > anything). We had to throw her sheets away last night because she

> > smeared it everywhere. She went on my living room floor. She just

> > went in her bedroom. She is a little red on her private area.

> >

> > My husband is losing it. He's talking about killing himself. He said

> > he can't stand to see her smear her poop like an animal. He has been

> > so supportive of all the biomed we have done, all her supplements

> > and chelation. Everything. But this just set him over the edge. He

> > can't bear to see her like this.

> >

> > I just don't know what to do. Is this die off? Is she starving? What

> > do I do if she won't eat anything? I'm at a loss. She has severe

> > texture issues - I even tried to give her baby food (I know it's not

> > legal but I just want her to eat). Do I try to force her to eat or

> > do I just lay it our there and she'll eat it eventually?

> >

> > Any advice at all would be sooooooo appreciated! And any answers on

> > the poop smearing and not wearing clothes - has anyone else

> > experienced this before? How long does it last? I have been giving

> > her charcoal to try and absorb some die off but I don't even know if

> > that is what's going on.

> >

> > Sorry for all the questions - we're just a mess over here and I'm on

> > the verge of losing my husband.

> >

> > I have the book Breaking the Vicious Cycle and I didn't read

> > anything this horrible in there. I guess it's easier for people who

> > have children that actually eat. The diet isn't going to work for us

> > if I can't get her to eat ANYTHING.

> >

> > Thank you all in advance,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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