SCD and LOD, was Re: behavior

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I have to chuckle at this one. There are just as many people over on

Trying_Low_Oxalates who don't advocate the SCD, because their kids did not do

well on it. I, for one, am trying to find the common ground between the two

diets, since healing is the goal, not a particular soapbox. I am sure that

Elaine would have felt the same; healing should be the priority for all of us.

The common ground, by the way, is fairly large, unless one has a problem with

eggs and casein. The long introductory diet of pecanbread, minus the nuts, is

markedly similar to a low oxalate diet, minus the Uncle Ben's rice . High

oxalate foods include most grains and starches. Soaking the peas and lentils,

and tossing the soaking water, reduces oxalates as well as starches. Since

oxalates are restricted, rather than totally banned, moderate use of foods that

contain a fair amount of oxalates-- such as carrots-- would be a problem for

only the most sensitive. I assume my son, and possibly the boy whose behavior

triggered this thread, are among the very sensitive. Wouldn't you rather someone

tried a version of SCD that might heal them, than abandon it altogether?

Lorilyn

Re: behavior

Personally-- and this is variant SCD, not the official version-- I would try

pulling out the nuts and carrots, which are high oxalate. (Besides that, nuts at

least are very high on the allergic-reaction lists for ordinary people.) My son

did very poorly on our first round of SCD, and better on round two, minus nuts,

eggs, and carrots. If that doesn't help, test eggs, which are not high oxalate,

but could be an allergy issue for many. If you do retry the intro diet, you

could put squash instead of carrots in the soup; Elaine mentioned that squash

was generally well tolerated, and it is low oxalate.

My son has always had behavioral reactions to foods and other interventions

(chelation, etc) and you are right, it is very hard when others give up on your

kid. You just have to do whatever you can to make his behaviors a temporary

issue that most forget when the good things happen. I was always frustrated at

parents who did nothing biomedical, and then refused to have their kids moved

(from mainstream classes, or to lower functioning placements) due to behaviors,

but I found myself behaving a bit that way too, when I knew the behavior was

temporary and improvement was not far away. Print out some testimonials from

those who saw improvement on diet, help the aide come up with ways to protect

herself (like sitting across a desk from him, which helped with my son) and

assure them that you are doing everything you can to make this temporary.

Lorilyn

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