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the point! **smile**

Rosemary

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> Date:Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:02:55 EDT

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> There're many posts that I would like to respond to directly, but it

> is too time consuming for those of us who have fulfilling lives, true

> friends, and families outside of the internet. I said I would defer

> final judgment of this " chaos " until I engaged in additional

> researched that corroborated a position one way or the other. So, the

> jury is still out.

>

> , your list description states, this list is an " Open, adult

> discussions, pro, con, good, bad, happy, sad, angry, pissed to the max

> --

> REAL discussions about the Mini-Gastric Bypass (MGB) done by Dr.

> Rutledge in Durham, North Carolina. " So, I am taking it a face

> value.

>

> You also responded in a previous post that we are adults, and am going

> to treat you all as such without coddling.

>

> SO, WARNING: THIS POST WILL NOT BE SENSITIVE OR POLITICALLY CORRECT.

> DELETE NOW IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED.

>

> Allow me to preface my this by telling you all that and I have

> corresponded by email, and our previous exchanges have all been civil.

> I hope our communication can remain as such. Throughout our

> correspondence, I have noted that we have a few commonalties. (Fancy

> that...a white supremacist and a black pseudo nationalist) LOL Our

> ideologies, if discussed, would probably be parallel. I can and do

> appreciate 's intelligence, as I am a member of Mensa, and

> suspect she is probably a member as well. We both have great

> disdain for idiots. She is a mean %^^$ (rhymes with itch), and am not

> far behind. I am about as cold and calloused as they come. But, I am

> very receptive to reason or plain old common sense. doesn't

> celebrate Christmas, and my husband and I haven't celebrated Christmas

> in a " traditional " sense since 1989. has ties to the militia.

> Who cares...( I personally don't give a %^$# (rhymes with clam). There

> are others on the list who feel the same way she does, but they are

> cowardly and covert. They are the kind that smile in your face with a

> forked tongue, while they insidiously sodomize you. I don't have to

> guess where she is coming from...I KNOW...so I don't have to front.

>

> Do yall remember Duke? Well, he was the state representative for

> the district that I once lived in. We shared a favorite Croatian

> restaurant...Drago's. Have you been there . It's in old Metairie,

> LA.

>

> Anyway, and I had a great relationship. We grinned in each

> others faces, but we knew one thing...I don't like him, and he doesn't

> like me. But, I could respect some things about him. So, I give you

> all this seemingly extraneous information to lay some foundation to

> demonstrate that I don't have a personal problem with , so don't

> misinterpret my intentions.

>

> Before I make decisions or judgments, I ponder, evaluate, analyze, and

> process as much information as possible to gain some understanding.

> But, I do have a few hindrances that are stalling my thought process.

> I am not easily moved, but I do find these things highly problematic:

>

> 1. The misuse of Clinical studies. I am quite proficient at

> comprehending,nalyzing, and interpreting data in this form. Many of

> the studies that I have read ith in the past few days, are very

> skewed. (The studies are predominantlyEuropean, the patient

> populations are too small, the testing parameters are too loose, the

> investigators in some cases are biased, there are very

> few that appear in the more respectable journals, and the statistical

> assessment is not available in many cases. No ANOVA, no nothing. This

> is VERY important is the results are to be relied upon. If I don't

> know the P value, how much confidence can I place on the results being

> the same if the study were repeated again? zero for me...do you

> quantitative types feel me?

>

> 2. your motives and intent are questionable. I know...I

> know...you say you are " saving " people from mutilating

> themselves...but I beg to differ and this is why. I have been on

> several lists with you and I have noticed a pattern with you. You sing

> praises, then you get mad...over and over. You were privy to all of

> this information, as was I. You interviewed 95 people and Dr R took

> your notes to Memphis to better explain his results. You helped

> countless people obtain the MGB at no charge. (That's a big deal when

> your #$$ (rhymes with glass) is BROKE). You constantly educated

> yourself and even explained troubling matters to the confused. You

> said you got caught up in the camaraderie and neglected to do deeper

> investigation. ( Bull $% & & (rhymes with hit), . An

> imbicile...maybe...but not a woman of your worldliness and

> notoriety. You were informed. I am having problems accepting the fact

> that a woman, with your span of influence, could be swayed by a bunch

> of " Rutledge MOONIES " sitting around all day at the computer ...

> holding hand and singing Kum Ba Ya.

>

> You are/were a respected militia officianato. There is something

> strange about that picture. That is analogous to Louis Farrakhan or

> Khalid Muhammad getting caught up in a game of street basketball while

> en route to the " Million Man March " . LOL NOT!!!!! It aint happening.

>

> This is what I deduce. You went to Durham with some expectation of Dr

> R that obviously was not met. He snubbed or did/didn't do something

> you wanted. And now you are angry, embittered, vengeful, because of

> it. Now, you have

> a mission to embarrass, castigate, and humiliate, and publicly

> castrate, and possibly destroy Dr R. So, you did some additional

> research, and found some information about Barrett's esophagus...and

> VOILA...you now have it.

>

> Now, you are the self proclaimed martyr and savior of the

> " walking dead " . Seem outlandish? It isn't. you have a pattern of

> documented histrionic behavior.

>

> I am not saying you are a sociopath, but I see somestrong

> similarities.

>

> Perhaps they are purely coincidental. But, you have staged coos

> much larger than this. LLL, You had Janet Reno shaking in her shoes.

> And, all of this is under the guise of helping you fellow compatriots.

>

> You mention " MOONIES " a lot. But, you have had moonies of sorts.

> So, you can easily recognize the syndrome. You get a bunch of

> unsuspecting unsophisticated people, mix a little truth, with a whole

> lot of double talk, and BAM...you have a following. Satan (father of

> lies) did it, Castro did it, Hitler did it, and you did it . You

> are no different. When information is distorted and presented as

> truth...it * & & (rhymes with trucks) up your credibility. Now, what

> does a judge do when he/she finds a witness not believable? He

> disregards the whole testimony. You have erroneously mistaken

> correlation for causation. That is faulty logic. It's like saying,

>

> " God is love, love is blind, so God is Stevie Wonder. " ...NOT You can't

> not correctly pull percentage out at random and extrapolate the number

> of people who will be dead as a result of the MGB. I know you know

> what you are doing...you are not dum by any stretch of imagination.

> You use fear, intimidation, and ignorance to incite impulsivity. But,

> I aint mad atcha, . So, don't be mad.

>

> This is merely my interpretation of events.

>

> So, my suspicion came because of your timing, you frequent

> vacillation, the manner of your communications, and you mode of

> operation. I am not saying you are wrong or entirely incorrect on some

> things. But, any truth of your message is jaded, at best.

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