Re: Re: off the subject, but I am one angry mother

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In a message dated 9/13/2003 1:12:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Penelope@... writes:

My son is very bright, but very passive. I told him that if someone is

calling him names like four eyes, brace face, whatever they could come

up with, its up to him how he wants to deal with it. However, if someone

is invading his personal space and touching him, his glasses, back pack,

whatever, that's another story and if he feels it is necessary, to hit

the other kid, then go for it. I also told him that we would support his

decision and that if he picked the bigger one of the kids and gave him a

good ass kicking, chances are he'll never get picked on again.

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Very wise momma - puts it all into perspective. You have a very lucky son.

Fay Bayuk

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[Guest guest]

Hmmm wonder if that is anything like the Robin Hood plan in Texas. But I

suspect that is truly waaaay off topic.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:04:40 -0000 " Rita " writes:

>(even though Vermont has screwed up the

> system big time, long story but it is a statewide school

> equalization tax called Act 60)

>

> Rita in Vermont

> open rny 3/31/94

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When I was 16, I spent several weeks studying at the United Nations, which

is supposedly setting the standard on how we all treat each other as world

neighbors. One of my most vivid memories of that trip, unfortunately, was an

" encounter " with a waitress in the Delegates Dining Room. This is a very

elite dining facility, open ONLY to the ambassadors and their guests-no

staff, no aides, no public in general. I, and the 150 other young people

there, were guests of the President of the General Assembly.

I had received my meal from the waitress, and found that the steak I had was

RARE and cold, and not something that I relished eating. I politely asked

that it be returned to the kitchen, and cooked a little longer. The waitress

told me, " I'm not taking everything every snot-nosed kid here doesn't like

back to the kitchen. " I stood up, and told her, with all the dignity I could

muster, " I am NOT a snot-nosed kid. I am a relatively intelligent young

person and here because I have an adult grasp of world politics. I don't

believe that you would speak to a delegate or any of the other guests in

this manner. Now, please take this back to the kitchen. " I then sat down,

and smoothed my napkin in my lap (even " little girls from Podunk, America "

know it doesn't go under your chin.). She took my plate back to the kitchen.

I think it's regrettable that I have such a memory from the seat of

international diplomacy. I'm fortunate that I was raised that I didn't have

to take that kind of treatment, and learned to reject it with grace and good

manners. (IMHO)

Jac

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I worked with UNICEF for a number of years. But other than that, no. I

became a cop. And in 23 years in law enforcement, working off duty in a

homeless shelter, and fostering homeless kids, I made it a point to NEVER

speak to someone as if they were of lesser intelligence, regardless of their

age, income, or social stature. And I was rarely disappointed in the

treatment I got in return. You have to give respect to receive it, but

somebody has to make the first move. It doesn't bother me to take the

initiative.

Jac

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Re: off the subject, but I am one angry mother

Wow, I wish I had that much composure at 46. You go girl! Did you

ever continue on with the United Nations?

Tigger

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Jac, WOW. To have such a WONDERFUL experience marred by that waitress. You

would think they would screen and carefully supervise their employees and

INSIST on a standard of behavior! After ALL....they should be setting a

GOOD example. Hummmm wonder if this is why the UN is in such disarray. It

starts from the bottom and works it's way up!

Debbie &

in Gig Harbor

(170cm medial)

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-----Original Message-----

From: Jacque Holdaway

When I was 16, I spent several weeks studying at the United Nations, which

is supposedly setting the standard on how we all treat each other as world

neighbors. One of my most vivid memories of that trip, unfortunately, was an

" encounter " with a waitress in the Delegates Dining Room. This is a very

elite dining facility, open ONLY to the ambassadors and their guests-no

staff, no aides, no public in general. I, and the 150 other young people

there, were guests of the President of the General Assembly. I had received

my meal from the waitress, and found that the steak I had was RARE and cold,

and not something that I relished eating. I politely asked that it be

returned to the kitchen, and cooked a little longer. The waitress told me,

" I'm not taking everything every snot-nosed kid here doesn't like back to

the kitchen. " I stood up, and told her, with all the dignity I could muster,

" I am NOT a snot-nosed kid. I am a relatively intelligent young person and

here because I have an adult grasp of world politics. I don't believe that

you would speak to a delegate or any of the other guests in this manner.

Now, please take this back to the kitchen. " I then sat down, and smoothed my

napkin in my lap (even " little girls from Podunk, America " know it doesn't

go under your chin.). She took my plate back to the kitchen. I think it's

regrettable that I have such a memory from the seat of international

diplomacy. I'm fortunate that I was raised that I didn't have to take that

kind of treatment, and learned to reject it with grace and good manners.

(IMHO)

Jac

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I recently did volunteer work with a young lady with mental retardation.

When I first started working with her she was very demanding, very

clingy, no boundaries whatsoever. I kept remembering something a

therapist friend of mine once told me and that is that you teach people

how to treat you. When she would demand that I get her something, I

simply explained that I was not her servant. If she needed something,

she needed to ask me. I also expected her to ask to hold my hand

(something she wanted to do constantly.) After several months of working

with her she was asking for drinks, asking for snacks, saying please and

thank you, asking to hold my hand, etc. It was amazing to see the

difference in her behaviour only because I expected to be treated with

the same respect that I consistently showed her.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 10:05:16 -0500 " Jacque Holdaway "

writes:

> I worked with UNICEF for a number of years. But other than that, no.

> I

> became a cop. And in 23 years in law enforcement, working off duty

> in a

> homeless shelter, and fostering homeless kids, I made it a point to

> NEVER

> speak to someone as if they were of lesser intelligence, regardless

> of their

> age, income, or social stature. And I was rarely disappointed in

> the

> treatment I got in return. You have to give respect to receive it,

> but

> somebody has to make the first move. It doesn't bother me to take

> the

> initiative.

>

> Jac

> http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/

> http://members.cox.net/XXXFARMPAINTS

> mail to: jholdaway@...

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> Order a BRAT 2004 calendar today at:

> http://www.basenjirescue.org/calendarcontest/

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> Re: off the subject, but I am one angry

> mother

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> Wow, I wish I had that much composure at 46. You go girl! Did you

> ever continue on with the United Nations?

> Tigger

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In a message dated 9/14/2003 9:40:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

loriowen@... writes:

It was amazing to see the

difference in her behaviour only because I expected to be treated with

the same respect that I consistently showed her.

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So true, so true.

Fay

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I think this is amazing. Just shows what CAN be done. This gives me hope

and helps me feel a lot better about our world.

Barbara Jean

Re: off the subject, but I am one angry mother

> It is amazing what some kids have to go through. I went through

> school being picked on because of my weight.

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> My daughter was in 6th grade last year (11yrs old) when some eighth

> graders were picking on her. My hubby told my daughter to find out

> the names and then he contacted the vice principal. The girls were

> put in a program about bullying and they never bothered her again.

> This year 2 kids started picking on her and she marched right down to

> the principal's office and reported it. They have not bothered her

> since. She is standing up for herself. We are fortunate to have a

> school district that cares about all the kids and has zero tolerance

> for bullying. And we have a responsive staff. makes it worth the

> school taxes that I am paying (even though Vermont has screwed up the

> system big time, long story but it is a statewide school equalization

> tax called Act 60)

>

> Rita in Vermont

> open rny 3/31/94

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