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clarkuscoffeyus wrote:

>Hello all. Have any of you ever heard of or had surgery performed by

>Dr. Arnett from the Center for Corrective Jaw Surgery in Santa

>Barbara? I have had to relocate from Denver to LA in the middle of my

>treatment and I'm having to go through the process of selecting a

>surgeon all over again.

>

>Thank you for any input you may have,

>

>

>

Yep, there's at least four people on this board who have had surgery

through him. I'm one of them.

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> >Hello all. Have any of you ever heard of or had surgery performed

by

> >Dr. Arnett from the Center for Corrective Jaw Surgery in Santa

> >Barbara? I have had to relocate from Denver to LA in the middle

of my

> >treatment and I'm having to go through the process of selecting a

> >surgeon all over again.

> >

> >Thank you for any input you may have,

> >

> >

> >

> Yep, there's at least four people on this board who have had

surgery

> through him. I'm one of them.

>

Could you tell what you had done and how it went? The consultation

alone is nearly $500, so I'm guessing he's pretty expensive and

although I want the best, not every surgeon is worth their fees. Any

info you could forward about your experience would be appreciated.

Thank you

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I've never met him, or spoken with him, but he is a highly qualified

and well known surgeon in this field, from all I have heard. Also, I am

told, pricier than some, although I have also never had a quote from

him, and some have found it difficult to have insurance that he culs

work with, also hearsay.

I would have no doubt that he knows his stuff, and many have had

excellent results in his hands. I believe that he also developed some

of the techniques he uses.

Cammie

> Hello all. Have any of you ever heard of or had surgery performed by

> Dr. Arnett from the Center for Corrective Jaw Surgery in Santa

> Barbara? I have had to relocate from Denver to LA in the middle of my

> treatment and I'm having to go through the process of selecting a

> surgeon all over again.

>

> Thank you for any input you may have,

>

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I've heard only good things about Dr. Arnett but I did not use him

because I am based in NYC. However, the doctor that will be following

me in Italy once I move back there was trained by Arnett. I do know

that people fly out of state to be operated by him and he only does

rigid fixation as he believes wiring worsens TMJ. So the one thing

that you can count on with him is that he won't wire you although he

might give you a splint.

Sara

> >

> > >Hello all. Have any of you ever heard of or had surgery

performed

> by

> > >Dr. Arnett from the Center for Corrective Jaw Surgery in Santa

> > >Barbara? I have had to relocate from Denver to LA in the middle

> of my

> > >treatment and I'm having to go through the process of selecting

a

> > >surgeon all over again.

> > >

> > >Thank you for any input you may have,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > Yep, there's at least four people on this board who have had

> surgery

> > through him. I'm one of them.

> >

>

>

> Could you tell what you had done and how it went? The consultation

> alone is nearly $500, so I'm guessing he's pretty expensive and

> although I want the best, not every surgeon is worth their fees.

Any

> info you could forward about your experience would be appreciated.

> Thank you

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clarkuscoffeyus wrote:

>Could you tell what you had done and how it went? The consultation

>alone is nearly $500, so I'm guessing he's pretty expensive and

>although I want the best, not every surgeon is worth their fees. Any

>info you could forward about your experience would be appreciated.

>Thank you

>

What done: The operative report lists eight items, so I'll just give the

highlights...lower jaw widening, upper/lower jaw advancement which

dramatically increased the airway.

Yes, they're expensive. I have nothing but good things to say about them.

I went to other surgeons which only led me to appreciate the Santa

Barbara office even more.

The best explanation I heard regarding surgeons: All of them know what

to do when things are right. But when there are complications or things

go wrong, does your surgeon know what to do? This office does a lot of

surgeries to correct what other surgeons have done.

What it boils down to is do you think your case is sufficiently

complicated or difficult to warrant the additional expense.

In my case, I felt I had enough dental and breathing issues to warrant

the expense.

Bill

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>I would have no doubt that he knows his stuff, and many have had

>excellent results in his hands. I believe that he also developed some

>of the techniques he uses.

>

>

Dr. Arnett owns a patent on the orthagnathic titanium screws used in

surgery, for starters...

Bill

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I had surgery at the Center for Corrective Jaw Surgery on May 25th

and they are awesome. The lead surgeon was Dr. Gunson with Dr.

Arnett assisting him with the surgery. These guys seriously are

arguably the best in the world. That might sound retarded, but

between the two of them they have done over 4500 surgeries. (Mostly

Arnett) They only do jaw surgeries and because that's all they do

they are very good at it. For example, the week I was there they

were doing 4 people and the following two weeks, I know they did 3

each week and probably are doing 3 each week for the rest of the

summer. I live in New Jersey and flew their to have surgery with

them in Santa Barbara. I remember them saying that Dr. Arnett even

did surgery on like the prince of Saudia Arabia. I had also visited

a OS in NYC, and he cost just as much and was less professional. The

feeling I got from a lot of OSs is that they do one or two a month

if that. If you live in LA, I would highly recommend them.

As for the cost, they definately are expensive, but I feel like the

biggest factor in cost is where the surgery is done. For example, at

his office we got a quote of roughly 27K plus hospital fees for

surgery on upper and lower and we basically got the same quote in

NYC. My guess is you probably could find another OS in LA area who

is somewhat cheaper, but the cost of that decision will be with

someone with less experience. We are hoping insurance will pick up a

good part of it, but we are definately going to be paying a large

portion of it.

In short, I selected their office because if someone is breaking my

jaw then I want someone who does this on a regular basis and not one

or two a month. Their office is very professional and they were

great. If you can afford them then go there!

Good luck!

K

May 25, 2005

Upper and Lower

> >

> > >Hello all. Have any of you ever heard of or had surgery

performed

> by

> > >Dr. Arnett from the Center for Corrective Jaw Surgery in Santa

> > >Barbara? I have had to relocate from Denver to LA in the middle

> of my

> > >treatment and I'm having to go through the process of selecting

a

> > >surgeon all over again.

> > >

> > >Thank you for any input you may have,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > Yep, there's at least four people on this board who have had

> surgery

> > through him. I'm one of them.

> >

>

>

> Could you tell what you had done and how it went? The consultation

> alone is nearly $500, so I'm guessing he's pretty expensive and

> although I want the best, not every surgeon is worth their fees.

Any

> info you could forward about your experience would be appreciated.

> Thank you

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I'm not even thinking about putting Dr. Arnett or any of his

partners down. Clearly, they know what they're doing.

But my guy, down here in lower Alabama, had done more than 1700

before he got to me, back in 2002. And there were about five of us

trooping back into the ward for the surgery the morning I had mine.

(Including a big old country farm guy who'd pierced his own ears,

but fought the little nursie ladies about the insertion of the IV

line! One was ready to slug him!)

Hey. No fight about who's on top here. What you want is a surgeon

who knows what to do and knows how to do it, and help you through

it. Go where you want. Clearly Dr. Arnett is in the forefront of the

field, and equally clearly, there are others, such as the much-

esteemed Toronto surgeon Dr. Toccio (am I spelling that right?) and

my own Dr. Z., who also know what needs doing and how to help.

(Arabian princes are not impressive, though, to me. Maybe my

prejudices poke out.)

I just wish you all the best of results, under the scalpels of

whichever surgeon you choose. I definitely agree that I wouldn't go

price shopping for a surgeon!

C.

> I had surgery at the Center for Corrective Jaw Surgery on May 25th

> and they are awesome. The lead surgeon was Dr. Gunson with Dr.

> Arnett assisting him with the surgery. These guys seriously are

> arguably the best in the world. That might sound retarded, but

> between the two of them they have done over 4500 surgeries.

(Mostly

> Arnett) They only do jaw surgeries and because that's all they do

> they are very good at it. For example, the week I was there they

> were doing 4 people and the following two weeks, I know they did 3

> each week and probably are doing 3 each week for the rest of the

> summer. I live in New Jersey and flew their to have surgery with

> them in Santa Barbara. I remember them saying that Dr. Arnett even

> did surgery on like the prince of Saudia Arabia. I had also

visited

> a OS in NYC, and he cost just as much and was less professional.

The

> feeling I got from a lot of OSs is that they do one or two a month

> if that. If you live in LA, I would highly recommend them.

>

> As for the cost, they definately are expensive, but I feel like

the

> biggest factor in cost is where the surgery is done. For example,

at

> his office we got a quote of roughly 27K plus hospital fees for

> surgery on upper and lower and we basically got the same quote in

> NYC. My guess is you probably could find another OS in LA area who

> is somewhat cheaper, but the cost of that decision will be with

> someone with less experience. We are hoping insurance will pick up

a

> good part of it, but we are definately going to be paying a large

> portion of it.

>

> In short, I selected their office because if someone is breaking

my

> jaw then I want someone who does this on a regular basis and not

one

> or two a month. Their office is very professional and they were

> great. If you can afford them then go there!

>

> Good luck!

>

> K

> May 25, 2005

> Upper and Lower

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Thank you for replying with your thoughts and experiences. My case is

not complex as far as orthognathic surgery goes, but I want (dare say

demand) the best aesthetic outcome possible – good function a given.

I've seen three surgeons thus far, and all three suggested a different

approach (advance maxilla only, advance maxilla and retract mandible,

retract mandible only) so I'm a bit confused and still looking for the

right guy.

Thanks again,

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Just adding my two cents ... One of the reasons I chose my Surgeon

was because he has done approximately 1500 orthognathic surgies

during his career. It made me feel all that more confident in his

ability. Don't get me wrong - there were other reasons (referrals,

school of choice, bedside manner, gut instinct, overall office

atmosphere, cost, insurance issues, etc.) but, that was an important

one.

This is a big deal ... it should be handled by someone that knows

what they are doing - not just because they learned it in school -

but because they have had sucessful hands-on experience.

In my ever so humble opinion,

Carol

> > >

> > > >Hello all. Have any of you ever heard of or had surgery

> performed

> > by

> > > >Dr. Arnett from the Center for Corrective Jaw Surgery in Santa

> > > >Barbara? I have had to relocate from Denver to LA in the

middle

> > of my

> > > >treatment and I'm having to go through the process of

selecting

> a

> > > >surgeon all over again.

> > > >

> > > >Thank you for any input you may have,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > Yep, there's at least four people on this board who have had

> > surgery

> > > through him. I'm one of them.

> > >

> > Could you tell what you had done and how it went? The

consultation

> > alone is nearly $500, so I'm guessing he's pretty expensive and

> > although I want the best, not every surgeon is worth their fees.

> Any

> > info you could forward about your experience would be appreciated.

> > Thank you

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clarkuscoffeyus wrote:

>Thank you for replying with your thoughts and experiences. My case is

>not complex as far as orthognathic surgery goes, but I want (dare say

>demand) the best aesthetic outcome possible – good function a given.

>I've seen three surgeons thus far, and all three suggested a different

>approach (advance maxilla only, advance maxilla and retract mandible,

>retract mandible only) so I'm a bit confused and still looking for the

>right guy.

>

If you have anything in writing from these three visits, bring them! You

have a right to be confused -- if it's not complex why are there three

different plans?

Think of the consultation as a job interview -- that means you interview

him as much as he interviews you!

You've got three different treatment plans and for all I know, Dr.

Arnett could provide a fourth one. Let him explain why he feels some of

the other treatment plans aren't appropriate for you. The goal is to

compare and contrast all the opinions and come up with the one you feel

is appropriate for you.

Bill

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Hi e,

I too am having surgery with Dr. Arnett at the end of August... I

initially had a paper consult (I'm from the UK).. but wanted to have

one in person... The paper consult varied significantly from the

consult I had in person, so I think it's worth seeing him in person

before deciding.

I was very impressed by his thoroughness. I spent the whole afternoon

being x-rayed etc etc. He takes lots of measurements and makes sure

that the joints are seated properly before taking x-rays etc

(something that other surgeons didn't do) in order to get accurate

readings etc. He also fully explains what's what.

If you want the best asthetic results, he is very good at this and

has written numerous papers and books etc on the topic.

I came out feeling really confident that he was the up to the job. So

much so, that I'm flying in from the UK and spending life savings on

this surgery (have no insurance)....

Fingers crossed that it all goes according to plan!

Suzy

x

>

> >Thank you for replying with your thoughts and experiences. My case

is

> >not complex as far as orthognathic surgery goes, but I want (dare

say

> >demand) the best aesthetic outcome possible – good function a

given.

> >I've seen three surgeons thus far, and all three suggested a

different

> >approach (advance maxilla only, advance maxilla and retract

mandible,

> >retract mandible only) so I'm a bit confused and still looking for

the

> >right guy.

> >

> If you have anything in writing from these three visits, bring

them! You

> have a right to be confused -- if it's not complex why are there

three

> different plans?

>

> Think of the consultation as a job interview -- that means you

interview

> him as much as he interviews you!

>

> You've got three different treatment plans and for all I know, Dr.

> Arnett could provide a fourth one. Let him explain why he feels

some of

> the other treatment plans aren't appropriate for you. The goal is

to

> compare and contrast all the opinions and come up with the one you

feel

> is appropriate for you.

>

> Bill

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Hi There!

I'm another patient of Dr. Arnett's. My surgery is scheduled for July 27th.

While this has all been a very tough process, having Dr. Arnett for a surgeon is

really helping. I haven't had my surgery yet, but so far my experienc has been

great. The office staff is wonderful, and always there to answer questions....I

think I bother them a little too much!

Dr. Arnett has performed this surgery over 4,500 times. With this, the entire

process is very stream lined. I had a paper consultation, and then a

consultation in person. While at his office, he worked with me, showed me

exactly what needed to be done, etc. They even have Liz, who handles the

insurance aspect come in and discuss the payment part of it all. Liz submits

everything to the insurance and is a god send when it comes to understanding all

of that.

One thing to note though, is with this, Dr. Arnett is in high demand. He also

lectures across the world so he isn't always in the office. Scheduling an

appointment can take awhile. Also, his office won't let you schedule an

appointment for surgery until your orthodontics are completely ready, and

insurance has cleared. This can be frustrating, b/c since Dr. Arnett is in high

demand, he usually books 6 months out. You can't even schedule your appointment

until you are ready, so there is ususally a 6 month waiting period. I've been

ready since April, and was supposed to have surgery in September, but lucked out

with a cancelation.

Good luck finding a surgeon though, and if you need anything else, let me know!

Nichol

Suzy wrote:

Hi e,

I too am having surgery with Dr. Arnett at the end of August... I

initially had a paper consult (I'm from the UK).. but wanted to have

one in person... The paper consult varied significantly from the

consult I had in person, so I think it's worth seeing him in person

before deciding.

I was very impressed by his thoroughness. I spent the whole afternoon

being x-rayed etc etc. He takes lots of measurements and makes sure

that the joints are seated properly before taking x-rays etc

(something that other surgeons didn't do) in order to get accurate

readings etc. He also fully explains what's what.

If you want the best asthetic results, he is very good at this and

has written numerous papers and books etc on the topic.

I came out feeling really confident that he was the up to the job. So

much so, that I'm flying in from the UK and spending life savings on

this surgery (have no insurance)....

Fingers crossed that it all goes according to plan!

Suzy

x

>

> >Thank you for replying with your thoughts and experiences. My case

is

> >not complex as far as orthognathic surgery goes, but I want (dare

say

> >demand) the best aesthetic outcome possible – good function a

given.

> >I've seen three surgeons thus far, and all three suggested a

different

> >approach (advance maxilla only, advance maxilla and retract

mandible,

> >retract mandible only) so I'm a bit confused and still looking for

the

> >right guy.

> >

> If you have anything in writing from these three visits, bring

them! You

> have a right to be confused -- if it's not complex why are there

three

> different plans?

>

> Think of the consultation as a job interview -- that means you

interview

> him as much as he interviews you!

>

> You've got three different treatment plans and for all I know, Dr.

> Arnett could provide a fourth one. Let him explain why he feels

some of

> the other treatment plans aren't appropriate for you. The goal is

to

> compare and contrast all the opinions and come up with the one you

feel

> is appropriate for you.

>

> Bill

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> Hello all. Have any of you ever heard of or had surgery performed by

> Dr. Arnett from the Center for Corrective Jaw Surgery in Santa

> Barbara? I have had to relocate from Denver to LA in the middle of my

> treatment and I'm having to go through the process of selecting a

> surgeon all over again.

>

> Thank you for any input you may have,

>

Drs. Arnett and Gunson are the dynamic duo. They are the dream team.

And their office staff is about as nice and on top of things as I've

encountered. While Dr. Arnett is a super-buy guy, you don't get the

impression of that when he's with you. Both he and Gunson hav ea greta

bedside amnner, take the time to explain everything, and my prep for

what was actually going to happen before and after surgery was right on

the money. Even to the point of " when you come out of surgery it won't

be bad but day three through five is the worst... "

I had a weird complication - not a huge deal, but my teeth slid a

couple of mm out of my jaw since my jaw was so tiny and there wasn't a

lot of bone. Dr. Arnett realized this when he went back over my x-rays

(this was about five weeks after surgery) and so he called me to come

up for an emergerncy appointment. (I'm in LA) So I drive up and he

puts me in his car and drives me to a local orthodontist on his lunch

break so that he can have the teeth looked at - he didn't want me to do

it in LA 'cause he wantd to be there.

It ended up being no big deal, but he really went the extra mile. They

are worth every penny you pay them and more.

Cheers,

Nina

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