Re: Daughter Ellen 6th day post op

[Guest guest]

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As a " pre-oper " it's always great to hear positive outcomes from those who have

had surgery. So thanks for the encouraging news.

I've done some investigation into liquid vitamins - Centrum has one that is

easily avail in drug stores - but it is VERY expensive (over $10.00 for about 15

doses). The other option I found is powdered vitamin supplements from a health

food store. You can get a giant container for around 20.00 - but it can be mixed

with any liquid you want, and it goes a lot further than the Centrum (I don't

remember the dose count). The folks at the health food store I talked to also

said the quality of the vitamins are a lot better in the powder.

Hope that helps.

Cyndy

pzconnecticut wrote:

Hi,

First I would like to thank everyone who has posted messages on this

site. It really helped me anticipate what was going to happen with

my daughter's surgery. We all made it through the first couple of

days because we were well informed.

My daughter Ellen (15) had her upper jaw advanced 5mm and her lower

jaw moved back to match the new upper jaw location. The surgery was

last Thursday afternoon and she's wired until Aug 11. I was amazed

at how well she did following the operation. She was drinking water

within 5 hours, went for a walk the day after surgery and quit using

the morphine pump 12 hours from when she let the recovery room.

Although her sinuses were congested, she never had trouble

breating. We went home 36 hours after surgery. She has very little

swelling and looks great!

Now for the hard part - She won't eat. She was alergic to milk for

years and even though she can now eat all dairy products she hates

the taste of milk. She also doesn't like the chocolate or

strawberry flavors used in most liquid meals. Ensure, shakes or

instant breakfast are a real problem right now. Ellen also does not

like the creamy feeling in her throat. Makes her feel like she

needs to cough it up or throw up. I've tried to convince her that

she needs to eat, but have not had much luck. She has only had

soup, Gatorade and some vitamins since the surgery. She only

weighed 80 pounds before surgery.

Any food suggestions or strategies would be helpful. I would also

like to hear from anyone who has suggestions for a liquid calcium

supplements or liquid vitamin suggestions.

Sorry for the long posting but I'm stuck

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hey,

I, also, am a pre-oper, but I have done research, and

one thing that I would add to her diet is

protein...now, when I have the surgery, I will

basically be on the same diet as your daughter because

I cannot bring myself to even try any blended/puried

food. But what you can do, Designer Whey has a

protein powder that does not have a taste. This

should be added to everything she drinks...except,

probably, plain water. This should help with

recovery, and hopefully keep her healthy. Keep us

apraised of her recovery!

Austria

--- pzconnecticut wrote:

> Hi,

>

> First I would like to thank everyone who has posted

> messages on this

> site. It really helped me anticipate what was going

> to happen with

> my daughter's surgery. We all made it through the

> first couple of

> days because we were well informed.

>

> My daughter Ellen (15) had her upper jaw advanced

> 5mm and her lower

> jaw moved back to match the new upper jaw location.

> The surgery was

> last Thursday afternoon and she's wired until Aug

> 11. I was amazed

> at how well she did following the operation. She

> was drinking water

> within 5 hours, went for a walk the day after

> surgery and quit using

> the morphine pump 12 hours from when she let the

> recovery room.

> Although her sinuses were congested, she never had

> trouble

> breating. We went home 36 hours after surgery. She

> has very little

> swelling and looks great!

>

> Now for the hard part - She won't eat. She was

> alergic to milk for

> years and even though she can now eat all dairy

> products she hates

> the taste of milk. She also doesn't like the

> chocolate or

> strawberry flavors used in most liquid meals.

> Ensure, shakes or

> instant breakfast are a real problem right now.

> Ellen also does not

> like the creamy feeling in her throat. Makes her

> feel like she

> needs to cough it up or throw up. I've tried to

> convince her that

> she needs to eat, but have not had much luck. She

> has only had

> soup, Gatorade and some vitamins since the surgery.

> She only

> weighed 80 pounds before surgery.

>

> Any food suggestions or strategies would be helpful.

> I would also

> like to hear from anyone who has suggestions for a

> liquid calcium

> supplements or liquid vitamin suggestions.

>

> Sorry for the long posting but I'm stuck

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I sympathize with you. My 15-year-old daughter is also going to have

jaw surgery, and I am already concerned about how she will keep

weight on afterwards.

Not drinking milk drinks certainly complicates things. What about

blended fruit smoothies with banana/berries (strained) and maybe

gradually add a little yogurt to them. You can also add supplements

this way.

Cream of wheat also is good and has iron and vitamins.

Good luck. Keep us posted on her progress.

carole

-- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " pzconnecticut "

<pzconnecticut@y...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> First I would like to thank everyone who has posted messages on

this

> site. It really helped me anticipate what was going to happen with

> my daughter's surgery. We all made it through the first couple of

> days because we were well informed.

>

> My daughter Ellen (15) had her upper jaw advanced 5mm and her lower

> jaw moved back to match the new upper jaw location. The surgery

was

> last Thursday afternoon and she's wired until Aug 11. I was amazed

> at how well she did following the operation. She was drinking

water

> within 5 hours, went for a walk the day after surgery and quit

using

> the morphine pump 12 hours from when she let the recovery room.

> Although her sinuses were congested, she never had trouble

> breating. We went home 36 hours after surgery. She has very

little

> swelling and looks great!

>

> Now for the hard part - She won't eat. She was alergic to milk for

> years and even though she can now eat all dairy products she hates

> the taste of milk. She also doesn't like the chocolate or

> strawberry flavors used in most liquid meals. Ensure, shakes or

> instant breakfast are a real problem right now. Ellen also does

not

> like the creamy feeling in her throat. Makes her feel like she

> needs to cough it up or throw up. I've tried to convince her that

> she needs to eat, but have not had much luck. She has only had

> soup, Gatorade and some vitamins since the surgery. She only

> weighed 80 pounds before surgery.

>

> Any food suggestions or strategies would be helpful. I would also

> like to hear from anyone who has suggestions for a liquid calcium

> supplements or liquid vitamin suggestions.

>

> Sorry for the long posting but I'm stuck

>

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

I enjoyed fruit smoothies with fruit juice, yogurt and frozen fruit. I

didn't add protein powder, only because I didn't have any.

>

> Now for the hard part - She won't eat. She was alergic to milk for

> years and even though she can now eat all dairy products she hates

> the taste of milk. She also doesn't like the chocolate or

> strawberry flavors used in most liquid meals. Ensure, shakes or

> instant breakfast are a real problem right now. Ellen also does

not

> like the creamy feeling in her throat. Makes her feel like she

> needs to cough it up or throw up. I've tried to convince her that

> she needs to eat, but have not had much luck. She has only had

> soup, Gatorade and some vitamins since the surgery. She only

> weighed 80 pounds before surgery.

>

> Any food suggestions or strategies would be helpful. I would also

> like to hear from anyone who has suggestions for a liquid calcium

> supplements or liquid vitamin suggestions.

[Guest guest]

Glad to hear Ellen is doing well, but she's gotta get the food in

somehow, if she's gonna continue to do well.

If she can do soups and broths, keep on giving her those. If she just

can't put up with the milky texture, you might try soymilk instead.

Ensure, I know, comes in a butterscotch flavor, and in several others

besides the one you mention. You can also put protein powder, or whey

protein in almost anything liquid, if you can blend it up. You can

also mix a couple of cans of soup -- some people have liked creamed

corn and tomato, or split pea and tomato, for example.

People have also been able to blend many Mexican dishes -- beans,

rice, cheese, and thin them enough with broth to make them doable.

Some wired folks have even, believe it or not, blended pizza and,

separately, salad. I know there is cucumber soup, and watercress

soup, for example, but I think both rely on milk, so that's probably

another strikeout.

I liked the 's chunky soups, which I blended finely with a

hand blender, but I was not wired -- just forbidden!

You can blend fruits. Can she do sorbets, or sherbet? Cold things

sometimes work better than warm ones. How about yogurt?

Are you running a vaporizer in her room? That can also be helpful

with congestion, as can steamy baths or showers -- but be sure

someone is IN the bathroom with her -- not outside a locked door --

in case she gets woozy. You don't want a bathroom fall to undo all

the good work those docs did!

How does she feel about orange juice with calcium in it? (I believe

there is even some available in which the acid content has been

lowered, in case that's irritating to her incisions.) And I'm not up

on it, but surely there are other juices that have calcium.

Spinach could be turned into a puree, thinned down --- and so can

sweet potatoes. (I'm a big fan of sweet potato soup, which you make

by cooking some onions or leeks in butter until they're tender, then

putting them in a large pot with some pared, cut up sweet potatoes,

some chicken broth, a bit of white wine (the alcohol cooks off), some

salt and pepper and a bit of ginger. Get the potatoes done, then

blend and thin it. (I add some milk or cream, but I reckon she'd

prefer not.) This you can also serve hot or cold. And it is filling,

and gives some tummy satisfaction, too.

I don't believe in threatening people, but it is true that if you

can't get enough food and liquid in by mouth, you usually wind up

back in the hospital, getting it through an IV. Not a nice thought to

anybody who's just been in a hospital...

Best,

Cammie

Juices, too

> Hi,

>

> First I would like to thank everyone who has posted messages on

this

> site. It really helped me anticipate what was going to happen with

> my daughter's surgery. We all made it through the first couple of

> days because we were well informed.

>

> My daughter Ellen (15) had her upper jaw advanced 5mm and her lower

> jaw moved back to match the new upper jaw location. The surgery

was

> last Thursday afternoon and she's wired until Aug 11. I was amazed

> at how well she did following the operation. She was drinking

water

> within 5 hours, went for a walk the day after surgery and quit

using

> the morphine pump 12 hours from when she let the recovery room.

> Although her sinuses were congested, she never had trouble

> breating. We went home 36 hours after surgery. She has very

little

> swelling and looks great!

>

> Now for the hard part - She won't eat. She was alergic to milk for

> years and even though she can now eat all dairy products she hates

> the taste of milk. She also doesn't like the chocolate or

> strawberry flavors used in most liquid meals. Ensure, shakes or

> instant breakfast are a real problem right now. Ellen also does

not

> like the creamy feeling in her throat. Makes her feel like she

> needs to cough it up or throw up. I've tried to convince her that

> she needs to eat, but have not had much luck. She has only had

> soup, Gatorade and some vitamins since the surgery. She only

> weighed 80 pounds before surgery.

>

> Any food suggestions or strategies would be helpful. I would also

> like to hear from anyone who has suggestions for a liquid calcium

> supplements or liquid vitamin suggestions.

>

> Sorry for the long posting but I'm stuck

>

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

Although Cammie has already given some great suggestions, I wanted

to add that soy milk works great.

I bought 2 packs of ensure before surgery but hated the way it

created a thick mucus like feeling in my throat. So its still

sitting in my kitchen.

Now I've been drinking rice milk, chocolotate soy milk (its thiner

than ensure)

My diet has mainly been half a cup of some soup(creamed potato,

mushroom), a few spoons of melted ice cream, strained smoothies,

tea, juice, instant powder soups.

Namrita.

> > Hi,

> >

> > First I would like to thank everyone who has posted messages on

> this

> > site. It really helped me anticipate what was going to happen

with

> > my daughter's surgery. We all made it through the first couple

of

> > days because we were well informed.

> >

> > My daughter Ellen (15) had her upper jaw advanced 5mm and her

lower

> > jaw moved back to match the new upper jaw location. The surgery

> was

> > last Thursday afternoon and she's wired until Aug 11. I was

amazed

> > at how well she did following the operation. She was drinking

> water

> > within 5 hours, went for a walk the day after surgery and quit

> using

> > the morphine pump 12 hours from when she let the recovery room.

> > Although her sinuses were congested, she never had trouble

> > breating. We went home 36 hours after surgery. She has very

> little

> > swelling and looks great!

> >

> > Now for the hard part - She won't eat. She was alergic to milk

for

> > years and even though she can now eat all dairy products she

hates

> > the taste of milk. She also doesn't like the chocolate or

> > strawberry flavors used in most liquid meals. Ensure, shakes or

> > instant breakfast are a real problem right now. Ellen also does

> not

> > like the creamy feeling in her throat. Makes her feel like she

> > needs to cough it up or throw up. I've tried to convince her

that

> > she needs to eat, but have not had much luck. She has only had

> > soup, Gatorade and some vitamins since the surgery. She only

> > weighed 80 pounds before surgery.

> >

> > Any food suggestions or strategies would be helpful. I would

also

> > like to hear from anyone who has suggestions for a liquid

calcium

> > supplements or liquid vitamin suggestions.

> >

> > Sorry for the long posting but I'm stuck

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.

I now feel like I have many more otions to try.

We have found designer whey powder for protein, liquid vitamins, a

powder calcium supplement and a few soups that Ellen likes.

Today we will experiment with soy milk, rice milk and some of the

soups and foods that you all have recommended. They all sound like

great ideas. We have tried some pureed food combinations, but

haven't found the one that works yet. We're going to keep on

trying. I feel more encouraged today and feel that we are making

progress. Thanks to everyone for the help.

We have been running a vaporizer in Ellen's room since she got home.

I got that tip from reading past postings. I think it really helped,

we haven't had much problem with congestion. Ellen's sinuses have

been completely clear for the last two days.

She takes a hot bath every day. Helps her mind and her congestion.

Cammie's suggestion that someone should always be in the bathroom is

right on target. My wife is with her whenver she is in the bath. To

support the point though, Ellen got up from her bed the other day

(after a few days of getting stronger)got dizzy and fell. Luckily

she was in the middle of the room and didn't hit her head on

anything, just fell on her bottom. She is fine but it scared us to

death. She now rings a bell when she wants to get out of bed.

Better to be careful even if things look like they are going well.

Thanks again to everyone. This group has been very helpful. It also

lets Ellen know she is not going through this alone.

Thanks to everyone,

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > First I would like to thank everyone who has posted messages on

> > this

> > > site. It really helped me anticipate what was going to happen

> with

> > > my daughter's surgery. We all made it through the first couple

> of

> > > days because we were well informed.

> > >

> > > My daughter Ellen (15) had her upper jaw advanced 5mm and her

> lower

> > > jaw moved back to match the new upper jaw location. The

surgery

> > was

> > > last Thursday afternoon and she's wired until Aug 11. I was

> amazed

> > > at how well she did following the operation. She was drinking

> > water

> > > within 5 hours, went for a walk the day after surgery and quit

> > using

> > > the morphine pump 12 hours from when she let the recovery

room.

> > > Although her sinuses were congested, she never had trouble

> > > breating. We went home 36 hours after surgery. She has very

> > little

> > > swelling and looks great!

> > >

> > > Now for the hard part - She won't eat. She was alergic to milk

> for

> > > years and even though she can now eat all dairy products she

> hates

> > > the taste of milk. She also doesn't like the chocolate or

> > > strawberry flavors used in most liquid meals. Ensure, shakes

or

> > > instant breakfast are a real problem right now. Ellen also

does

> > not

> > > like the creamy feeling in her throat. Makes her feel like she

> > > needs to cough it up or throw up. I've tried to convince her

> that

> > > she needs to eat, but have not had much luck. She has only had

> > > soup, Gatorade and some vitamins since the surgery. She only

> > > weighed 80 pounds before surgery.

> > >

> > > Any food suggestions or strategies would be helpful. I would

> also

> > > like to hear from anyone who has suggestions for a liquid

> calcium

> > > supplements or liquid vitamin suggestions.

> > >

> > > Sorry for the long posting but I'm stuck

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

,

That is great to hear about your daughter! Keep us

posted on how she is doing.

Also, thanks for letting me know about getting dizzy.

I should be having surgery in abuot 3 weeks and had

not thought about the fact that I should have someone

there when I stand up. That helps me out a lot.

Thanks,

Austria

--- pzconnecticut wrote:

> Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.

>

> I now feel like I have many more otions to try.

>

> We have found designer whey powder for protein,

> liquid vitamins, a

> powder calcium supplement and a few soups that Ellen

> likes.

>

> Today we will experiment with soy milk, rice milk

> and some of the

> soups and foods that you all have recommended. They

> all sound like

> great ideas. We have tried some pureed food

> combinations, but

> haven't found the one that works yet. We're going

> to keep on

> trying. I feel more encouraged today and feel that

> we are making

> progress. Thanks to everyone for the help.

>

> We have been running a vaporizer in Ellen's room

> since she got home.

> I got that tip from reading past postings. I think

> it really helped,

> we haven't had much problem with congestion.

> Ellen's sinuses have

> been completely clear for the last two days.

>

> She takes a hot bath every day. Helps her mind and

> her congestion.

> Cammie's suggestion that someone should always be in

> the bathroom is

> right on target. My wife is with her whenver she is

> in the bath. To

> support the point though, Ellen got up from her bed

> the other day

> (after a few days of getting stronger)got dizzy and

> fell. Luckily

> she was in the middle of the room and didn't hit her

> head on

> anything, just fell on her bottom. She is fine but

> it scared us to

> death. She now rings a bell when she wants to get

> out of bed.

> Better to be careful even if things look like they

> are going well.

>

> Thanks again to everyone. This group has been very

> helpful. It also

> lets Ellen know she is not going through this alone.

>

> Thanks to everyone,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > First I would like to thank everyone who has

> posted messages on

> > > this

> > > > site. It really helped me anticipate what was

> going to happen

> > with

> > > > my daughter's surgery. We all made it through

> the first couple

> > of

> > > > days because we were well informed.

> > > >

> > > > My daughter Ellen (15) had her upper jaw

> advanced 5mm and her

> > lower

> > > > jaw moved back to match the new upper jaw

> location. The

> surgery

> > > was

> > > > last Thursday afternoon and she's wired until

> Aug 11. I was

> > amazed

> > > > at how well she did following the operation.

> She was drinking

> > > water

> > > > within 5 hours, went for a walk the day after

> surgery and quit

> > > using

> > > > the morphine pump 12 hours from when she let

> the recovery

> room.

> > > > Although her sinuses were congested, she never

> had trouble

> > > > breating. We went home 36 hours after

> surgery. She has very

> > > little

> > > > swelling and looks great!

> > > >

> > > > Now for the hard part - She won't eat. She

> was alergic to milk

> > for

> > > > years and even though she can now eat all

> dairy products she

> > hates

> > > > the taste of milk. She also doesn't like the

> chocolate or

> > > > strawberry flavors used in most liquid meals.

> Ensure, shakes

> or

> > > > instant breakfast are a real problem right

> now. Ellen also

> does

> > > not

> > > > like the creamy feeling in her throat. Makes

> her feel like she

> > > > needs to cough it up or throw up. I've tried

> to convince her

> > that

> > > > she needs to eat, but have not had much luck.

> She has only had

> > > > soup, Gatorade and some vitamins since the

> surgery. She only

> > > > weighed 80 pounds before surgery.

> > > >

> > > > Any food suggestions or strategies would be

> helpful. I would

> > also

> > > > like to hear from anyone who has suggestions

> for a liquid

> > calcium

> > > > supplements or liquid vitamin suggestions.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry for the long posting but I'm stuck

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > >

>

>

>

>

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