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Maybe it's the rice? Just a guess. I loved Chinese food pre-op and still

enjoy it now. But I stick to the proteins and maybe a little chow mein.

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Chinese Food - any one else have issues/

problems?

I can eat just about anything except Chinese food. Last time I had

it at 11 mo post op, I threw up for the first time post-op. So,

hadn't had it again until last night. Thought it had been the soy

sauce which I have avoided, so I had shrimp with lobster sauce over

white rice-white sauce...but noooooo, I had pouch pain for hours on

such a small amount. Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with it? It

was a long time fav pre-op...

Cindy in Va

lap RNY 2/8/02

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--On Friday, November 14, 2003 6:01 PM +0000 Graduate-OSSG

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> Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

> would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with it? It

> was a long time fav pre-op...

Oh yeah! I think it might be that most sauces in Chinese food contain a

lot of sugar. When I make stir fry at home I have no problems with it, but

when I eat Chinese out, I usually don't feel so good. I can eat egg rolls

or spring rolls (as long as I skip the dipping sauce) and I look for dishes

that are unsauced (things like grilled chicken on a stick). But I can

definitely sympathize with you - Chinese food is one of the few things I

don't do well after my surgery. Indian food, OTOH, does just fine,

thankfully - the spicier the better! :o)

Sally

298 (BMI 49)/-142/156

Goal: 145-150ish

lap RNY 7/10/02

Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

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We were warned about MSG, though it never bothered me.

Rice has always been a challenge for me, though,

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Chinese Food - any one else have issues/ problems?

> I can eat just about anything except Chinese food. Last time I had

> it at 11 mo post op, I threw up for the first time post-op. So,

> hadn't had it again until last night. Thought it had been the soy

> sauce which I have avoided, so I had shrimp with lobster sauce over

> white rice-white sauce...but noooooo, I had pouch pain for hours on

> such a small amount. Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

> would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with it? It

> was a long time fav pre-op...

>

> Cindy in Va

> lap RNY 2/8/02

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You probably can eat Chinese food IF you tell the waiter to use very

little oil. The cooks usually use lots of oil because it keeps the

food from sticking to the wok and they can just slide the food from

the pan onto a dish.

LOL. When I went on my cruise last year the buffet had an omelet

station with a very long waiting line. I asked the cook for a 3 egg

omelet, only one yolk, no oil. He looked at me weird but, of course,

had to do it. Well, the darn thing stuck all over the pan and

wouldn't come out. With a look of disgust, he took the pan back into

the kitchen and got a new one. Poor guy. I opted for oatmeal.

Vicki A.

> I can eat just about anything except Chinese food. Last time I had

> it at 11 mo post op, I threw up for the first time post-op. So,

> hadn't had it again until last night. Thought it had been the soy

> sauce which I have avoided, so I had shrimp with lobster sauce over

> white rice-white sauce...but noooooo, I had pouch pain for hours on

> such a small amount. Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

> would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with it?

It

> was a long time fav pre-op...

>

> Cindy in Va

> lap RNY 2/8/02

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Loved Chinese food pre-op. First thing I tried post op was soup. didn't sit

well. Nothing sits well. First food to make me dump. Just the thought of

eating Chinese anymore makes me want to throw up.

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It took me about 18 months to be able to truly be able to eat chinese

food. I don't do the rice but will occasionally do the chow mein. I can

even do the lo mein but not rice. It's funny because I use to live at

the chinese buffets here in town. Chinese doesn't even sound good

anymore.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/347/hoping for close to 200

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Hey Buddy, welcome to the club. I still can't eat it either. Every time I

do, it comes right back up.

love ya!

Tigger

Chinese Food - any one else have issues/ problems?

> I can eat just about anything except Chinese food. Last time I had

> it at 11 mo post op, I threw up for the first time post-op. So,

> hadn't had it again until last night. Thought it had been the soy

> sauce which I have avoided, so I had shrimp with lobster sauce over

> white rice-white sauce...but noooooo, I had pouch pain for hours on

> such a small amount. Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

> would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with it? It

> was a long time fav pre-op...

>

> Cindy in Va

> lap RNY 2/8/02

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For me, it's the rice, and sometimes, the grease. It was a staple of

mine pre-wls. I miss it sometimes, too, just for variety.

in NJ

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> I can eat just about anything except Chinese food. Last time I had

> it at 11 mo post op, I threw up for the first time post-op. So,

> hadn't had it again until last night. Thought it had been the soy

> sauce which I have avoided, so I had shrimp with lobster sauce over

> white rice-white sauce...but noooooo, I had pouch pain for hours on

> such a small amount. Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

> would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with it?

It

> was a long time fav pre-op...

>

> Cindy in Va

> lap RNY 2/8/02

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For me it is rice. If it isn't REAL FRESH or if it is over cooked (as in

over fried) then forgetaboutit! I have similar problems with sushi (which I

love). If the rice isn't cooked just right or if it is left overs I will

sometimes have a problem with it.

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For me, it's the rice, and sometimes, the grease. It was a staple of

mine pre-wls. I miss it sometimes, too, just for variety.

in NJ

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Went for Chinese tonight - one of the gourmet gourmet places - very good.

However I don't do rice. I had some egg drop soup and a steak dish (with a very

light brown sauce) and a taste of hubby's steamed Chilean sea bass...

We went with a group of 8 - one man was M.O. and everyone kept bringing up my

surgery...oy! I felt bad for him as he was uncomfortable. I kept changing the

subject and they kept changing it back.

Marjie

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problems?

--On Friday, November 14, 2003 6:01 PM +0000 Graduate-OSSG

wrote:

> Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

> would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with it? It

> was a long time fav pre-op...

Oh yeah! I think it might be that most sauces in Chinese food contain a

lot of sugar. When I make stir fry at home I have no problems with it, but

when I eat Chinese out, I usually don't feel so good. I can eat egg rolls

or spring rolls (as long as I skip the dipping sauce) and I look for dishes

that are unsauced (things like grilled chicken on a stick). But I can

definitely sympathize with you - Chinese food is one of the few things I

don't do well after my surgery. Indian food, OTOH, does just fine,

thankfully - the spicier the better! :o)

Sally

298 (BMI 49)/-142/156

Goal: 145-150ish

lap RNY 7/10/02

Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

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I cant eat rice either, used to love it plain with a little butter and salt,

but I am down for about 30 minutes now if I just eat a little bit. Certain

types of pasta also effect me the same way. Maybe it swells up inside??

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For me, it's the rice, and sometimes, the grease. It was a staple of

mine pre-wls. I miss it sometimes, too, just for variety.

in NJ

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> I can eat just about anything except Chinese food. Last time I had

> it at 11 mo post op, I threw up for the first time post-op. So,

> hadn't had it again until last night. Thought it had been the soy

> sauce which I have avoided, so I had shrimp with lobster sauce over

> white rice-white sauce...but noooooo, I had pouch pain for hours on

> such a small amount. Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

> would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with it?

It

> was a long time fav pre-op...

>

> Cindy in Va

> lap RNY 2/8/02

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The MSG maybe?

In a message dated 11/14/2003 4:54:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

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>

>

> I can eat just about anything except Chinese food. Last time I had

> it at 11 mo post op, I threw up for the first time post-op. So,

> hadn't had it again until last night. Thought it had been the soy

> sauce which I have avoided, so I had shrimp with lobster sauce over

> white rice-white sauce...but noooooo, I had pouch pain for hours on

> such a small amount. Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

> would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with it? It

> was a long time fav pre-op...

>

> Cindy in Va

>

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I find that I can tolerate only very small amounts of both pasta and rice.

Too much and I just feel awful. Been sick for the last couple of days and

my niece brought me some " chicken soup " which actually turned out to be a

bowl of noodles with a few carrots and a little bit of broth. Drank the

broth, ate the carrots and had 1 spoonful of the noodles and knew that I'd

better stop. Haven't had any problem with occasionally having Chinese, but

I do stick mostly to the proteim and vegetable items.

Kathy

Racine, WI

postop - 8/27/02

409/224/180

-185#

Re: Chinese Food - any one else have issues/

> problems?

>

>

>

> For me, it's the rice, and sometimes, the grease. It was a staple of

>

> mine pre-wls. I miss it sometimes, too, just for variety.

>

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> in NJ

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> > I can eat just about anything except Chinese food. Last time I had

>

> > it at 11 mo post op, I threw up for the first time post-op. So,

>

> > hadn't had it again until last night. Thought it had been the soy

>

> > sauce which I have avoided, so I had shrimp with lobster sauce over

>

> > white rice-white sauce...but noooooo, I had pouch pain for hours on

>

> > such a small amount. Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

>

> > would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with it?

>

> It

>

> > was a long time fav pre-op...

>

> >

>

> > Cindy in Va

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> > lap RNY 2/8/02

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It is the MSG's for me. They don't like me at all. Hafta watch for

them.

Reba

>

> > Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

> > would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with

it? It

> > was a long time fav pre-op...

>

> Oh yeah! I think it might be that most sauces in Chinese food

contain a

> lot of sugar. When I make stir fry at home I have no problems

with it, but

> when I eat Chinese out, I usually don't feel so good. I can eat

egg rolls

> or spring rolls (as long as I skip the dipping sauce) and I look

for dishes

> that are unsauced (things like grilled chicken on a stick). But I

can

> definitely sympathize with you - Chinese food is one of the few

things I

> don't do well after my surgery. Indian food, OTOH, does just

fine,

> thankfully - the spicier the better! :o)

>

> Sally

> 298 (BMI 49)/-142/156

> Goal: 145-150ish

> lap RNY 7/10/02

> Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

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It took me about 3 years before I could tolerate any rice, and now

it's just tiny amounts and well cooked, like in soup. I can eat

angel hair pasta no problem, unfortunately, because it's one of my

favorites, same with noodles in soup. Other pastas have to be eaten

in tiny bites, not unlike meat. But, I've always had a problem with

chicken. It's just usually too dry. KFC chicken, on the other hand,

is fine, probably because of all the grease. The real problem I have

with KFC is that I have to eat the breading and skin...it's just the

best part, and of course, the worst for us. Good thing I don't have

it very often.

in NJ

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> I find that I can tolerate only very small amounts of both pasta

and rice.

> Too much and I just feel awful. Been sick for the last couple of

days and my niece brought me some " chicken soup " which actually

turned out to be a bowl of noodles with a few carrots and a little

bit of broth. Drank the broth, ate the carrots and had 1 spoonful of

the noodles and knew that I'd better stop. Haven't had any problem

with occasionally having Chinese, but I do stick mostly to the

proteim and vegetable items.

>

> Kathy

> Racine, WI

> postop - 8/27/02

> 409/224/180

> -185#

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That's aweful! Who was it that said, " save us from the well-intentioned " ???

Lucille

In a message dated 11/15/2003 5:53:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

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>

> Went for Chinese tonight - one of the gourmet gourmet places - very good.

> However I don't do rice. I had some egg drop soup and a steak dish (with a

> very light brown sauce) and a taste of hubby's steamed Chilean sea bass...

>

> We went with a group of 8 - one man was M.O. and everyone kept bringing up

> my surgery...oy! I felt bad for him as he was uncomfortable. I kept changing

> the subject and they kept changing it back.

>

> Marjie

>

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I'm ok with most chinese food, except the sweet & sour. I avoid the rice and

noodles and just have the protein and veggies.

Judy

Lap Proximal RNY 7/23/02

Drs. & Rabkin/SF

54/5'3 " - 257/140

size 22/XXL - 6-8/S

bmi 46/24

-66 inches

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I'm the original poster. Had several replies, some indicating that

it may be the MSG. I know its not the rice, as I can eat rice with

my chili or in a stuffed pepper with no problem. Someone else

mentioned the sesame oil-not sure if that is in shrimp with lobster

sauce as it would be with the brown sauce dishes. Dare I try this

again without MSG??? I think if I do, I will wait a while. One

thing you learn once you get sick is not to rush to try it again.

Now if I could just figure out how to get sick on chocolate????!

Cindy in Va

lap RNY 2/8/02

> >

> > > Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

> > > would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with

> it? It

> > > was a long time fav pre-op...

> >

> > Oh yeah! I think it might be that most sauces in Chinese food

> contain a

> > lot of sugar. When I make stir fry at home I have no problems

> with it, but

> > when I eat Chinese out, I usually don't feel so good. I can eat

> egg rolls

> > or spring rolls (as long as I skip the dipping sauce) and I look

> for dishes

> > that are unsauced (things like grilled chicken on a stick). But

I

> can

> > definitely sympathize with you - Chinese food is one of the few

> things I

> > don't do well after my surgery. Indian food, OTOH, does just

> fine,

> > thankfully - the spicier the better! :o)

> >

> > Sally

> > 298 (BMI 49)/-142/156

> > Goal: 145-150ish

> > lap RNY 7/10/02

> > Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

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Cindy,

There is something about rice that is served at most Chinese

restraunts. I can eat minute rice just fine but have yet to be able to

tolerate the rice at any Chinese restraunt.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/347/hoping for close to 200

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:45:00 -0000 " cindyjrubin "

writes:

> I'm the original poster. Had several replies, some indicating that

> it may be the MSG. I know its not the rice, as I can eat rice with

>

> my chili or in a stuffed pepper with no problem. Someone else

> mentioned the sesame oil-not sure if that is in shrimp with lobster

>

> sauce as it would be with the brown sauce dishes. Dare I try this

> again without MSG??? I think if I do, I will wait a while. One

> thing you learn once you get sick is not to rush to try it again.

> Now if I could just figure out how to get sick on chocolate????!

>

> Cindy in Va

> lap RNY 2/8/02

>

>

>

> > >

> > > > Anyone know what it is in Chinese food that

> > > > would cause this? And, anyone else have similar problems with

>

> > it? It

> > > > was a long time fav pre-op...

> > >

> > > Oh yeah! I think it might be that most sauces in Chinese food

> > contain a

> > > lot of sugar. When I make stir fry at home I have no problems

> > with it, but

> > > when I eat Chinese out, I usually don't feel so good. I can eat

>

> > egg rolls

> > > or spring rolls (as long as I skip the dipping sauce) and I look

>

> > for dishes

> > > that are unsauced (things like grilled chicken on a stick). But

>

> I

> > can

> > > definitely sympathize with you - Chinese food is one of the few

>

> > things I

> > > don't do well after my surgery. Indian food, OTOH, does just

> > fine,

> > > thankfully - the spicier the better! :o)

> > >

> > > Sally

> > > 298 (BMI 49)/-142/156

> > > Goal: 145-150ish

> > > lap RNY 7/10/02

> > > Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

>

>

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I am almost 3 years out and still cant do Chinese food.. makes me violently

ill .. I must be a dunce, as I keep trying it every so often , thinking it

will go down and me and my pouch can be happy.. lol

Peachy hugs,

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The first year post-op, I ate almost exclusively things that were naturally

low-fat, high-protein, and low-carb. I had trouble with land-based meats so

this consisted of a lot of seafood, tofu, lentils, and soy-based imitation

meats. The 2nd year I expanded my options and began to include fresh fruit,

vegetables, and some low-carb pastas and breads. I am just starting my 3rd

year of post-op life and Chinese food as well as some other ethnic foods are

becoming very appealing to me.

However, I have discovered Chinese food as well as a lot of the other ethnic

foods are great when cooked at home but risky when eaten out. When served

at restaurants, everything depends on how the individual restaurant prepares

the recipe and what they like to add or use as " fillers " . For example, I

love shrimp with lobster sauce but at one buffet it tastes great and I could

eat it by the quart (light white sauce with tofu chunks as well as small

tender shrimp) and at another, one spoonful let me know it wasn't going to

be pretty if I tried to eat very much of it (made with cheap imitation crab,

lots of cornstarch or flour as a thickener, and more peas and carrots than

shrimp.) To be safe when I go out, I skip the rice altogether and focus on

just picking out a few of my favorite things then trying to get as little

sauce as possible on them. Last week I enjoyed Bourbon chicken but I am

still not up for sweet and sour anything.

Even things like rice vary. I can't eat hot white minute rice but can eat

the cold rice that comes in sushi as long as I make sure there is less rice

than whatever is around it. I like the vegetarian sushi rolls with avocado,

cucumber, carrot, or other yummy contents surrounded by rice and the

wrapper. Most of the time, the rolls are served with green mustard and

pickled ginger. I find if I wrap the roll in the ginger and eat them

together, my stomach doesn't bother me afterward.

B.

Open RNY 11/7/01 302 lbs

TT 10/16/03 145 lbs

11/19/03 138 lbs (Life just gets better and better)

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I dont do too well with rice either. Chinese, with or without MSG , makes me

violently ill.. I must be glutton for punishment as I keep trying it every so

often. I also dont do roast beef at all..

Peachy hugs,

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