Re:Re: Re: Re: Grilled Cheese and Tomato Soup --the horror

[Guest guest]

, I did some recalculation after I posted what I thought was my 20

gram ceiling and realized it was more like 14 grams (the amount in one Edy's

Coconut Bar!), which is still apparently generous by " popular " standards. But

I

can do this and not get the stage one dumping sleepies. At least I know

that there is SOME limit to the amount of sugar I can consume. Sometimes the

fear of dumping is the only thing which keeps me away from the Entenmann's

display at the supermarket.

Because of this list, I have long since abandoned my old Detour/blueberry

lunch, and substituted UNsweetened soy milk for the skim milk in my cereal, so

no

more sleepies there either. Actually, because of this list, I have been

alot more careful about sugar consumption and I have to say I have found it

makes

a difference in handling cravings. About the only thing I haven't been able

to modify is my choice in salad dressing: I am obsessed with Ken's Lite

Raspberry Walnut Dressing (6 grams sugar per 2T serving, and I generally have

4Ts

on my huge salads). I am slavish to this dressing! I could chug it if I

wasn't trying to behave myself! LOL! I think this is a truism: NEVER get

between a girl and her favorite salad dressing!

Lucille

In a message dated 11/14/2003 9:25:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

>

>

> Your tolerance level is way up there, by our stds. They want us at SIX g per

> meal. Per MEAL. Of course, mine is not that tight any more.

>

> You had what I call Stage 1 dumping--- the sleepies. Next I would feel very

> dry mouth, cold hands & feet (like I have anything else now with

> Raynaud's!), then heart palpitations, nausea. Usually not vomiting because

> the reaction occurs when it hits the intestine. And by then, it is TOO LATE

> to fetch it back.

>

> Yeah, I could not eat that bfast. The milk alone is 12g of sugar, then add

> the berries and the cereal. <thud> I'd be unconscious. I do eat some cereals

> with non-dairy creamer, just a dab (never did like my cereal to have to

> swim), and even so, sometimes I OD. Also, I can OD on air in the morning. I

> really need to have some solid food on board (that's after protein supp, of

> course) before I hit anything with many carbs. That's the only time of day

> I'm " total carb " sensitive.

>

> Thin how I do in motels with the continental bfast. The bigger the facility,

> the more carbs they display! LOL!

>

>

[Guest guest]

I love Ken's salad dressings! My fav's are the Lite Ceasar and the

Balsamic Vinaigrette. But, all of his dressings are good, and I'm

like you, just sooooo picky about my salad dressing! LOL

in NJ

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> I am obsessed with Ken's Lite Raspberry Walnut Dressing (6 grams

sugar per 2T serving, and I generally have 4Ts on my huge salads).

I am slavish to this dressing! I could chug it if I wasn't trying

to behave myself! LOL! I think this is a truism: NEVER get

> between a girl and her favorite salad dressing!

>

> Lucille

>

[Guest guest]

it is possible to dump from fruit. My mom dumps from fruit. I have never

pushed past one fruit a day and at that I split it in half.

Carbs can also make you very sleepy, depends on the person and how their

chemicals are inside that counteract insulin spikes from high glycemic

carbs. When you are feeling sleepy, notice what you just ate in the last

meal so you can trouble shoot this. If it's a high glycemic carb, it's

quite possible that you are tired from that. I get really tired from things

like: pasta, white breads, crackers, popcorn, in certain quantities. And

if it's this, it is not dumping. I had this prior to surgery hehe and it's

just your insulin levels spiking and crashing.

Sherra

Re:Re: Re: Re: Grilled Cheese and Tomato Soup

> --the horror

>

>

> , I did some recalculation after I posted what I thought was my 20

> gram ceiling and realized it was more like 14 grams (the amount in one

Edy's

> Coconut Bar!), which is still apparently generous by " popular " standards.

> But I

> can do this and not get the stage one dumping sleepies. At least I know

> that there is SOME limit to the amount of sugar I can consume. Sometimes

> the

> fear of dumping is the only thing which keeps me away from the Entenmann's

> display at the supermarket.

>

> Because of this list, I have long since abandoned my old Detour/blueberry

> lunch, and substituted UNsweetened soy milk for the skim milk in my

cereal,

> so no

> more sleepies there either. Actually, because of this list, I have been

> alot more careful about sugar consumption and I have to say I have found

it

> makes

> a difference in handling cravings. About the only thing I haven't been

> able

> to modify is my choice in salad dressing: I am obsessed with Ken's Lite

> Raspberry Walnut Dressing (6 grams sugar per 2T serving, and I generally

> have 4Ts

> on my huge salads). I am slavish to this dressing! I could chug it if

I

> wasn't trying to behave myself! LOL! I think this is a truism: NEVER

> get

> between a girl and her favorite salad dressing!

>

> Lucille

>

> In a message dated 11/14/2003 9:25:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> Graduate-OSSG writes:

>

>

> >

> >

> > Your tolerance level is way up there, by our stds. They want us at SIX g

> per

> > meal. Per MEAL. Of course, mine is not that tight any more.

> >

> > You had what I call Stage 1 dumping--- the sleepies. Next I would feel

> very

> > dry mouth, cold hands & feet (like I have anything else now with

> > Raynaud's!), then heart palpitations, nausea. Usually not vomiting

because

> > the reaction occurs when it hits the intestine. And by then, it is TOO

> LATE

> > to fetch it back.

> >

> > Yeah, I could not eat that bfast. The milk alone is 12g of sugar, then

add

> > the berries and the cereal. <thud> I'd be unconscious. I do eat some

> cereals

> > with non-dairy creamer, just a dab (never did like my cereal to have to

> > swim), and even so, sometimes I OD. Also, I can OD on air in the

morning.

> I

> > really need to have some solid food on board (that's after protein supp,

> of

> > course) before I hit anything with many carbs. That's the only time of

day

> > I'm " total carb " sensitive.

> >

> > Thin how I do in motels with the continental bfast. The bigger the

> facility,

> > the more carbs they display! LOL!

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>