Re: With fructose malabsorption, is the SCD diet even possible?

[Guest guest]

I just heard that fructose malabsorption can be cured by water

fast...confusing..

[Guest guest]

At 08:25 PM 7/31/2010, you wrote:

Apples, watermelon and squash

don't digest at all, and honey causes tons of gas. But bananas and

berries seem to be just fine.

We've actually discussed this on the list before -- interesting

links.

Quite simply, I didn't tolerate much in the way of fruit or honey when I

began SCD. Mostly, as you say, bananas and berries. After some

significant healing, I can now handle plenty of other fruits, but I stick

mostly with bananas and berries, and also with the less sweet apples,

like granny smiths. I did fine with summer squash, for instance, but not

so well with the seeter winter squash.

Although you may have been eating some foods for which your gut is not

yet ready, being on SCD should still have helped with healing. Just

eliminate, for the time being, the foods that don't work for you, like

the apples and all.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Thanks Marilyn,

It's very encouraging to hear that after healing you can handle a wide variety

of fruits. I'll just continue with the bananas and berries for now, and I'll

check out some of those earlier discussions on the topic.

Beth

> >Apples, watermelon and squash don't digest at

> >all, and honey causes tons of gas. But bananas

> >and berries seem to be just fine.

>

> We've actually discussed this on the list before -- interesting links.

>

> Quite simply, I didn't tolerate much in the way

> of fruit or honey when I began SCD. Mostly, as

> you say, bananas and berries. After some

> significant healing, I can now handle plenty of

> other fruits, but I stick mostly with bananas and

> berries, and also with the less sweet apples,

> like granny smiths. I did fine with summer

> squash, for instance, but not so well with the seeter winter squash.

>

> Although you may have been eating some foods for

> which your gut is not yet ready, being on SCD

> should still have helped with healing. Just

> eliminate, for the time being, the foods that

> don't work for you, like the apples and all.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> Babette the Foundling Beagle

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't know there was a name for it.  I had the same problem but I could eat peaches also.  Summer squash, no winter.  Baked granny smith apples but don't eat the skin.  Very little fruit--I was afraid to try berries but every once in awhile 1/2 a banana or banana pancakes.  Gradually I was able to tolerate a lot more because I drink smoothies a lot with fruit and juice and ice.  It did take a long time but worth it.  The main thing I watch now is citrus.  Like I spritz everything with lemon or lime juice but it took a long time to tolerate that.  I can't eat an entire grapefruit or orange but a few pieces.

 

Definitely worth trying SCD for this imho.  You may not be able to go much further with how much fruit you can tolerate but then again, you may eventually be able to eat pretty much anything.  I am going to check out your links to see what it's about.  I thought it just related to not absorbing anything except protein and a few vegetables in the beginning.  I can finally eat salads and avocado.  I eat grapes daily and used to only eat 2-3 and it gave me major problems.

 

Just hold off on dried fruit for a long while (or at least I have to) because it's ummm concentrated I guess you'd say.

 

Debbie 41 cd

[Guest guest]

Huh, I think I have gravitated towards a low-fructose diet without even knowing.I can (and do!) eat berries and bananas by the cupful. But, I don't eat too much apple or pear. Honey I keep to a minimum. I enjoy summer squash much more often than winter squash too. I always thought the fiber might be a problem but maybe it was the fructose.

SCD is definitely doable and easy with low-fructose foods.Kathttp://scdkat.com

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:

 

At 08:25 PM 7/31/2010, you wrote:

Apples, watermelon and squash

don't digest at all, and honey causes tons of gas. But bananas and

berries seem to be just fine.

We've actually discussed this on the list before -- interesting

links.

Quite simply, I didn't tolerate much in the way of fruit or honey when I

began SCD. Mostly, as you say, bananas and berries. After some

significant healing, I can now handle plenty of other fruits, but I stick

mostly with bananas and berries, and also with the less sweet apples,

like granny smiths. I did fine with summer squash, for instance, but not

so well with the seeter winter squash.

Although you may have been eating some foods for which your gut is not

yet ready, being on SCD should still have helped with healing. Just

eliminate, for the time being, the foods that don't work for you, like

the apples and all.

—

Marilyn

    New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

    Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

    Darn Good SCD Cook

    No Human Children

    Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

    Babette the Foundling Beagle

       

[Guest guest]

At 10:12 PM 8/6/2010, you wrote:

It's very encouraging to hear

that after healing you can handle a wide variety of fruits. I'll just

continue with the bananas and berries for now, and I'll check out some of

those earlier discussions on the topic.

There was a point at which I thought I'd NEVER be able to eat much or any

fruit. More than a tablespoon or so, and I'd be back to the squishies.

But, heck, I had a cup of fresh cherries today, a banana, and three

Medjool dates. ( years ago, that would have been unthinkable, unless I

also wanted to think about a day in the bathroom!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

At 10:42 AM 8/21/2010, you wrote:

how do you know if its fructose

malabsorbtion or bacteria in gut or candida or....

have also wondered about phenols, salicylates, oxylates, are there tests

or is it trial and error and keeping notes. or just might be a problem

with a particular food. Also read about food combining - where might get

reactions from mixing meats and carbs or fruits. they suggest eating

vegies with meats or vegies with carbs and to eat fruit alone, so as to

digest better and have less undigested food in stomach. for me I notice

problems with fruit and winter sqauch but helps to put spices with them.

Also trying to get 2 teens on board with this diet has been interesting.

I will own that getting two teens on board may be interesting.

The way I feel about it is that you can drive yourself crazy looking for

this label or that label or the other thing.

Keep a food diary.

I can't stress this enough.

Keep a food diary.

SCD is intended to handle the bad bacteria in the gut.

SCD can significantly reduce candida just by taking away its preferred

food, starch.

Keeping a food diary allows you to pinpoint the foods you don't do well

with, and it doesn't matter if they're high fructose or have lots of

phenols or salicylates.

Food combining works for some people -- but it doesn't work for others. I

have to eat fruit with protein and /or fat, or I get very ill.

And yes, while some people do better without spices, others find that

spices are very helpful.

Did I mention you should be keeping a food diary?

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

There is just an apparently endless list of diets to worry about.

ly I think we can make ourselves crazy trying to see which of all

these categories we might fit in. It's pretty much trial and error

anyhow; no two of us seem to have exactly the same SCD diet because we

are all different so we start with the legals and try this and that and

figure out what works for US right now. Next week or so, we try something

else. I think you'll be happier if you keep it simple. But keep

that food diary. It's invaluable. There's no way anyone can

remember exactly what all got eaten when and the reactions, if any,

unless you write it down.

how do you know if its fructose malabsorbtion or bacteria in gut or

candida or....

have also wondered about phenols, salicylates, oxylates, are there

tests or is it trial and error and keeping notes. or just might be a

problem with a particular food. Also read about food combining - where

might get reactions from mixing meats and carbs or fruits. they suggest

eating vegies with meats or vegies with carbs and to eat fruit alone, so

as to digest better and have less undigested food in stomach. for me I

notice problems with fruit and winter sqauch but helps to put spices with

them. Also trying to get 2 teens on board with this diet has been

interesting.

Lynn D