Re: Naltrexone and insomia

[Guest guest]

Hi June,

I take it in the morning. I have been told that it is most effective

when taken at night, because that's when your body produces the most

endorphins but, like you, I couldn't sleep so I decided to try taking

it in the morning when someone on the LDN list mentioned thyroid

patients taking it then. Its been a couple of months now (following a

month of trying to deal with taking it at night) and it seems to be

working anyway; maybe it would work even better at night but I figure

sleep is a necessary tool for healing and the insomnia was terrible.

fi

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:23 PM, singingdancer95128

wrote:

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> Hi all,

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> I know that there is a yahoo group devoted to this, but could people who take

LDN tell me how you deal with the insomnia? I have taken it for just 2 nights

and had terrible times sleeping. I am VERY sensitive to drugs and foods so I am

only taking a little bit more than 1 mg, and also cause I have Hashimotos.

>

> Thanks a bunch,

> June

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>

[Guest guest]

Same with me- I take it in the morning after weeks of insomnia. I figured the

same with needing sleep to heal.

PJ

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> > Hi all,

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> > I know that there is a yahoo group devoted to this, but could people who

take LDN tell me how you deal with the insomnia? I have taken it for just 2

nights and had terrible times sleeping. I am VERY sensitive to drugs and foods

so I am only taking a little bit more than 1 mg, and also cause I have

Hashimotos.

> >

> > Thanks a bunch,

> > June

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[Guest guest]

Thanks so much Fiona,

I have to sleep at night or I get worse with my enterocolitis.

Have a good day,

June

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> > Hi all,

> >

> > I know that there is a yahoo group devoted to this, but could people who

take LDN tell me how you deal with the insomnia? I have taken it for just 2

nights and had terrible times sleeping. I am VERY sensitive to drugs and foods

so I am only taking a little bit more than 1 mg, and also cause I have

Hashimotos.

> >

> > Thanks a bunch,

> > June

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> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks PJ. At what time do you take it?

June

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> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > I know that there is a yahoo group devoted to this, but could people who

take LDN tell me how you deal with the insomnia? I have taken it for just 2

nights and had terrible times sleeping. I am VERY sensitive to drugs and foods

so I am only taking a little bit more than 1 mg, and also cause I have

Hashimotos.

> > >

> > > Thanks a bunch,

> > > June

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[Guest guest]

When I wake up ( around 7 ). Sometimes I forget and take it a little later.

PJ

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> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > I know that there is a yahoo group devoted to this, but could people who

take LDN tell me how you deal with the insomnia? I have taken it for just 2

nights and had terrible times sleeping. I am VERY sensitive to drugs and foods

so I am only taking a little bit more than 1 mg, and also cause I have

Hashimotos.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a bunch,

> > > > June

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> > > >

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[Guest guest]

At 03:23 PM 8/6/2010, you wrote:

I know that there is a yahoo

group devoted to this, but could people who take LDN tell me how you deal

with the insomnia? I have taken it for just 2 nights and had terrible

times sleeping. I am VERY sensitive to drugs and foods so I am only

taking a little bit more than 1 mg, and also cause I have

Hashimotos.

June,

Ironically, not everyone has this reaction. For me, LDN has resulted in

deeper, more restful sleep from the beginning. I've even had to cut my

melatonin in half because I was finding myself groggy during the

day.

You might consider melatonin.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

June,

It takes the body about a week (for most of us) to get used to the LDN. I

was a total wreck that week! I'd wake up about 2 and take hours to get

back to sleep, or not at all. Good thing I didn't schedule the

dentist or anything. Since I have sleep problems anyhow, at the week mark

I truly thought I'd better just pack it in, it wouldn't work. And just as

suddenly, the wake-ups stopped. Like Marilyn, I now sleep deeper

when I am sleeping. My other protocol requires magnificent

stupendous consistent sleep, so I am doing a couple of other things as

well. Gabapentin helps, also helps pain and hot flashes, yay!, and 5-HTP

helps as well. I may try melatonin as I still have some trouble

getting to sleep. Valerian is another possibility.

Anyhow, I'd say keep on with the LDN awhile. Some people take more than a

week. A few don't seem to adjust and they take it in the

morning. It's still effective that way. And your other option

would be to cut the dose. I started with a mere 1.0 mg.

At 03:23 PM 8/6/2010, you wrote:

>I know that there is a yahoo group devoted to >this, but could people who take LDN tell me how >you deal with the insomnia? I have taken it for >just 2 nights and had terrible times sleeping. I >am VERY sensitive to drugs and foods so I am >only taking a little bit more than 1 mg, and also cause I have

Hashimotos.

June,

[Guest guest]

Shouldn't I stop it until the yeast gets cleared up? I think that its making me

very depressed. I didn't take it last night and am starting to feel better this

afternoon.

Thanks,

June

> >I know that there is a yahoo group devoted to

> >this, but could people who take LDN tell me how

> >you deal with the insomnia? I have taken it for

> >just 2 nights and had terrible times sleeping. I

> >am VERY sensitive to drugs and foods so I am

> >only taking a little bit more than 1 mg, and also cause I have Hashimotos.

> June,

>

[Guest guest]

> Shouldn't I stop it until the yeast gets cleared up?

Yes - the yeast blocks it rendering it ineffective. I'd do some anti-yeast

protocol first before you start back up.

Mara

[Guest guest]

Thanks Mara,

What do you suggest, oregano oil? I have some homeopathic stuff my chiropractor

gave me.

Thanks,

June

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> > Shouldn't I stop it until the yeast gets cleared up?

>

> Yes - the yeast blocks it rendering it ineffective. I'd do some anti-yeast

> protocol first before you start back up.

>

> Mara

>

[Guest guest]

I've heard this but I'm not sure it's necessary. Unless you feel it's

doing something naughty. I kept right on taking my LDN during the 3

months with Diflucan, and although the Diflucan seemed to diminish my LDN

help with auto-immune problems, it did still keep helping my immune

system fight the near-constant viral attacks I'd had for years. But

I wasn't depressed. LDN should increase your endorphins and those

are the " feel-good " things. If you feel it's making

things worse you might be happier to ditch it for awhile, though.

Shouldn't I stop it until the yeast gets cleared up? I think that its

making me very depressed. I didn't take it last night and am starting to

feel better this afternoon.

Thanks,

June

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I think I'll wait to restart it when I get back from a trip to San Diego I'm

taking next week. Dealing with finding safe food will be enough of a challenge.

Take care,

June

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> I've heard this but I'm not sure it's necessary. Unless you feel it's

> doing something naughty. I kept right on taking my LDN during the 3

> months with Diflucan, and although the Diflucan seemed to diminish my

> LDN help with auto-immune problems, it did still keep helping my

> immune system fight the near-constant viral attacks I'd had for

> years. But I wasn't depressed. LDN should increase your endorphins

> and those are the " feel-good " things. If you feel it's making things

> worse you might be happier to ditch it for awhile, though.

>

>

> Shouldn't I stop it until the yeast gets cleared up? I think that its

> making me very depressed. I didn't take it last night and am starting

> to feel better this afternoon.

> Thanks,

> June

>

[Guest guest]

I have long-standing insomnia from a traumatic brain injury. LDN

is the only thing that has given me even a brief period of restful sleep

in 16 years though I started to take it for my GI issues.

Though when increasing the dose, I will get a full week of crummy

sleep, though pretty normal for me, and then the 3 am wake up call tends

to end and the good sleep returns.

Currently, I'm dealing with an apparent LDN build-up, so I have to

keep taking nights off and trying to come up with the right dose to keep

the good sleep coming. The signal that it's off is that I have

increasing wakefulness and a long period of no sleep from 2-6 am or just

waking and staying up anytime from 2 am on. But, last night, when I

take a night off, the good sleep returns.

What a blessing to have a decent night of sleep !

Sue R

[Guest guest]

why take it at all?What does LDN do for you?On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:

 

At 03:23 PM 8/6/2010, you wrote:

I know that there is a yahoo

group devoted to this, but could people who take LDN tell me how you deal

with the insomnia? I have taken it for just 2 nights and had terrible

times sleeping. I am VERY sensitive to drugs and foods so I am only

taking a little bit more than 1 mg, and also cause I have

Hashimotos.

June,

Ironically, not everyone has this reaction. For me, LDN has resulted in

deeper, more restful sleep from the beginning. I've even had to cut my

melatonin in half because I was finding myself groggy during the

day.

You might consider melatonin.

—

Marilyn

    New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

    Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

    Darn Good SCD Cook

    No Human Children

    Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

    Babette the Foundling Beagle

       

-- Jody http://GlutenFreeEugene.org " Strength does not come from winningYour struggles develop your strength. "

[Guest guest]

At 05:43 AM 8/14/2010, you wrote:

why take it at all?What does LDN do for

you?

LDN increases endorphins. In my case, I wasn't taking it for gut issues

-- that was under control due to SCD. However, LDN is anti-cancer, and I

had cancer surgery in April of 2008 (uterine), and I'd prefer it not come

back. In addition, the endorphins are very good for systemic pain

issues, such as those of fibromyalgia. I had those pain issues, although,

once again, I was told " just stop stuffing your face and lose some

weight and it'll all clear up. Oh and take some Tylenol if it bothers you

-- the sugar and starch in it won't be a problem. "

I've had liver issues before, and I wasn't about to risk damage to my

liver taking Tylenol four times a day. Plus which, Tylenol did nothing

for the pain.

Many people find that LDN is very good for gut issues. In fact, there

have been two double blind studies done with LDN for active Crohn's

disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17222320

http://clinicaltrialsfeeds.org/clinical-trials/show/NCT00663117

(completed, but not yet published)

Also, a study for fibromyalgia:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19453963

Other clinical studies:

http://www.ldnscience.org/low-dose-naltrexone-ldn/published-research-about-ldn/clinical-trials

I chose to take LDN (though it took me long enough to find someone who

would prescribe it for me!) for a number of reasons, and all of the

results for me have been good. At the very least, there do not appear to

be any negative side effects for me, which I cannot say about many OTC

drugs and even other prescription drugs. The $20 a month that it

costs me from Skip's Pharmacy is less than the vitamins I take. (And in

point of fact, I've been able to reduce the amount of anti-inflammatory

vitamins, so the cost actually balances out.) The difference in my

quality of life is astonishing. Many of the people who take LDN for

Crohn's or UC report similar improvements.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Right now feel like need endorphins. also shoulder and left arm pain relief.

Will try antidepressant Dr prescribed. are herbal alcohol tintures allowed?

Will ask Dr about LDN also.

Thank you

Lynn D

> >why take it at all?What does LDN do for you?

>

> LDN increases endorphins. In my case, I wasn't

> taking it for gut issues -- that was under

> control due to SCD. However, LDN is anti-cancer,

> and I had cancer surgery in April of 2008

> (uterine), and I'd prefer it not come back. In

> addition, the endorphins are very good for

> systemic pain issues, such as those of

> fibromyalgia. I had those pain issues, although,

> once again, I was told " just stop stuffing your

> face and lose some weight and it'll all clear up.

> Oh and take some Tylenol if it bothers you -- the

> sugar and starch in it won't be a problem. "

>

> I've had liver issues before, and I wasn't about

> to risk damage to my liver taking Tylenol four

> times a day. Plus which, Tylenol did nothing for the pain.

>

> Many people find that LDN is very good for gut

> issues. In fact, there have been two double blind

> studies done with LDN for active Crohn's disease.

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17222320

> http://clinicaltrialsfeeds.org/clinical-trials/show/NCT00663117

> (completed, but not yet published)

>

> Also, a study for fibromyalgia:

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19453963

>

> Other clinical studies:

>

>

http://www.ldnscience.org/low-dose-naltrexone-ldn/published-research-about-ldn/c\

linical-trials

>

> I chose to take LDN (though it took me long

> enough to find someone who would prescribe it for

> me!) for a number of reasons, and all of the

> results for me have been good. At the very least,

> there do not appear to be any negative side

> effects for me, which I cannot say about many OTC

> drugs and even other prescription drugs. The $20

> a month that it costs me from Skip's Pharmacy is

> less than the vitamins I take. (And in point of

> fact, I've been able to reduce the amount of

> anti-inflammatory vitamins, so the cost actually

> balances out.) The difference in my quality of

> life is astonishing. Many of the people who take

> LDN for Crohn's or UC report similar improvements.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> Babette the Foundling Beagle

>