Guest guest Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 --being less than physically ept, uncoordinated, not AWARE of what your body's potentials and limitations are I am with you on the food related issues, but this one, at least for me, is a no. I was a football player, tennis player, and general all-round athlete before I got fat. I still ate like I was playing football, even when I was sitting behind a desk. Then food began to take over other areas of my life....without getting too explicit, food replaced all the other spots in my life where I wasn't getting what I needed. Food was always my friend: I could count on it making me feel better. Some friend. Nearly killed me. I still love food, but have some perspective nowadays. Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Hey Vicki - I agree this hormone thing is not for the faint of heart! About your weight, I'm willing to bet that you look a lot smaller than a normie who weighs 214. Every one thinks that I weigh a lot less than I do and I wear 2 sizes smaller than a normie friend of mine who weights 15 pounds less than I do. So hug yourself, flaunt your skinny-ness and drink your protein! hugs, Joanie Body awareness > Well, now I know why I ate a gallon of pickles, felt like scarfing > continuosly, gained 7 pounds and was out of sorts. A good old > fashioned case of PMS. Ha! > > It's the pits getting older. I can't predict like I used to when I > was younger and ticking like a clock. You ladies know what I mean > (and maybe some men). > > Still, I feel weepy and I know depression, albeit temporary, will > take me to lethargy and eating crappola. I'm supposed to go to a > potluck today, but I think I'll skip it. All I need is a rack of BBQ > ribs! Ugh! Makes me want to hurl just thinking of it, but that won't > stop me from throwing it down my gullet in the state I'm in! > > I guess I'll just keep myself out of the house today. After this I'll > go to the gym, although I have yet to figure out how to sleep while > walking the treadmill. Then I'll pick up my girl from her slumber > party and go Christmas shopping with her. Then to an afternoon > support group meeting. Then I'll wrap the presents I bought...yada > yada yada. Whatever it takes to keep me out of my head and out of > the frig. > > A side note...I get so many compliments now on how " thin " I am > because people knew me as being severely obese. But it's all > relative. I'm still 214, a big person; fat in most circles. Will I > go back to being a fat person when we move to Texas? I certainly > won't be getting the constant fuzzies from people. Hmmmm. > > Vicki A. > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 I have to agree with Joanie. Whenever I tell someone how much I weigh....they don't believe that I weigh that much. Right now I sit at 193, but was at 214 for YEARS! No one would ever believe me. I would go to the Docs and they would put me on the scale and put the little thingy on 150 and I would move it to 200 and their eyes would bug out of their heads. I would just say...TRUST ME. Now, I get on the scale and MY eyes bug out of my head! Debbie & in Gig Harbor (170cm medial) ladybostons@... http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice -----Original Message----- From: Joanie Hey Vicki - I agree this hormone thing is not for the faint of heart! About your weight, I'm willing to bet that you look a lot smaller than a normie who weighs 214. Every one thinks that I weigh a lot less than I do and I wear 2 sizes smaller than a normie friend of mine who weights 15 pounds less than I do. So hug yourself, flaunt your skinny-ness and drink your protein! hugs, Joanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 You are so right Debbie. There is no way I would have guessed you at that weight. You look wonderful! I woulda thought about 150 too. And since I saw you in July (Olive Garden), I can only imagine how great you look now with your PS done...btw, I am still awaiting word if my panni will be covered. Do you feel like Dr. Isik does pretty good work? I only met him once for the consult. ~Kricket 298/140 > I have to agree with Joanie. Whenever I tell someone how much I > weigh....they don't believe that I weigh that much. Right now I sit at 193... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Thanks Kricket! Helps to be tall. Or as Vitalady says " have LONG legs " ! Kricket, I really LIKE Dr. Isik. He is quiet, and gentle, but the most PIERCING eyes! It says a lot, I think, that his Nurse has worked for him for a long time and really likes him, his residents seem relaxed around him (one I know who is Dr. Risk -- what a name for a Doc--LOL) they come from medical schools like Harvard to study under him. Even the Anesthesiologists had only GOOD, kind things to say about him. Some how, I think there is a really good sense of humor lurking....if one had time to really get to know him. And yes I am happy with my results! But this darn binding is driving me nuts!!! I am so tired of stays....they bend...where I don't. LOL I have found that by wearing jeans I can get the binders to stay put. Debbie & in Gig Harbor (170cm medial) ladybostons@... http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice -----Original Message----- From: Kricket You are so right Debbie. There is no way I would have guessed you at that weight. You look wonderful! I woulda thought about 150 too. And since I saw you in July (Olive Garden), I can only imagine how great you look now with your PS done...btw, I am still awaiting word if my panni will be covered. Do you feel like Dr. Isik does pretty good work? I only met him once for the consult. ~Kricket 298/140 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Jac As usual---VERY WELL SAID. We all have to stand tall in our own minds--no matter what everyone else thinks! Jac your Life is a dance statement is SOOOOO true. You are full of good insight girl. Sherry in Knoxville TN BLUZGAL REMEMBER---LIFE IS A JOURNEY--NOT A DESTINATION! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 This reminds me a bit of my MIL. A few years ago she referred to herself as " tall. " I said, " How tall are you? " and I said this to the very top of her head, okay? She answered: " FIVE FEET FOUR INCHES! " rather defiantly. So I just said " Oh " and blinked a few million times. I wasn't about to disagree with her, at least not while she was still cranking out those to-die-for noodle puddings! I'm not stupid. BTW someone asked for the recipe. I am calling her tomorrow and I will ask, but I know she doesn't measure LMAO! (I am such a bitch!) Lucille In a message dated 11/19/2003 12:35:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, Graduate-OSSG writes: > > > I think self-perception of height isn't always connected to > reality! I matured early: lost my first tooth at four, hit puberty > at 10 or 11, and was always one of the taller girls through grade > school. But I stopped growing (in height, at least) in about the > sixth grade and am 5'4 " . When I looked up some government > statistics 25 years ago that was the average height for women in > this country, though now I'll bet it's shorter than average. Yet I > never *thought* of myself as short because I was tall as a young > kid, and that self-image stuck. I suspect being fat had a lot to do > with it, too, just the overall feeling of being " big " . Now that I'm > in a normal size range I find myself patronizing the petite > department, and even then I sometimes have to get slacks hemmed. I > still don't *feel* particularly short, but I guess my brain has to > acknowledge that I am. > > Celia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Beth, I'm 5'6 " , but I remember my Mom's best friend, who was all of 5'2 " or so, telling me that tall women are " regal. " Of course, to her, I was tall. I'm also a size 10/12, and those single digits are very elusive to me, too, and probably always will be. So, we will revel in our regalness or regality or whatever the word is! LOL in NJ ************************** > I need a 10 - occasionally a 12. " Double digit " sizes. I have a > large number of " friends " who feel that double digit sizes are one of the worse things that can happen to a woman. > > > Beth > Houston, TX > VBG - Dr. Srungaram > 05/31/00 - 314 lbs. > 11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty > 11/29/02 - 160 lbs. > 5'10 " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 --On Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:51 PM +0000 Graduate-OSSG wrote: > So what do people (generally) consider tall? or short??? I am > curious! (short to me is 5'4 " and under). I don't know where I got this - probably from some fashion magazine article in my youth, but it has always stuck with me that " short " for women is under 5'4 " , " average height " is 5'4 " - 5'6 " and over 5'6 " is " tall " . My 5'6 " husband (short for a guy, or at least on the low end of average, IMO) calls me " shorty " all the time and loves to watch me try to get things down off high shelves. I always remind him that at 5'5 " I am average height for a woman and not at all short. Of course, it doesn't help that since my surgery I've been given everything from 5'4 " to 5'5 " as my height (most recent measurement is 5'4-3/4 " which is close enough to 5'5 " to make me claim that ) Stature is in the eye of the beholder. Of course if you're under 4'11 " , then you are technically considered a " little person " ) Sally 298 (BMI 49)/-142/156 Goal: 145-150ish lap RNY 7/10/02 Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 statuesque Nice word. Rhythmical. Not one that will ever be in front of MY name. LOL! Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com RE: Re: Body awareness > Beth, I'm 5'6 " , but I remember my Mom's best friend, who was all of > 5'2 " or so, telling me that tall women are " regal. " Of course, to > her, I was tall. I'm also a size 10/12, and those single digits are > very elusive to me, too, and probably always will be. So, we will > revel in our regalness or regality or whatever the word is! LOL > > in NJ > ************************** > > > > I need a 10 - occasionally a 12. " Double digit " sizes. I have a > > large number of " friends " who feel that double digit sizes are one > of the worse things that can happen to a woman. > > > > > > Beth > > Houston, TX > > VBG - Dr. Srungaram > > 05/31/00 - 314 lbs. > > 11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty > > 11/29/02 - 160 lbs. > > 5'10 " > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 And not only will it not change, it goes the wrong way as you get older! I was 5'4 forever until to my surprise, I was 5'3 one day..of course, the disc removal surgery in my back was the culprit, but still, I want my average 5'4 back! And to think as I get older, I could end up even shorter....Petite stores/sizes are perfect now. I find that in average stores, sleeves are too long, and pants always have to be hemmed. Anyone notice that the youngsters today are much taller at much younger ages? My 8 year old niece reached my mouth height already... Cindy in Va lap RNY 2/8/02 > Yeah, sigh, I'd rather be tall than short, but I think the outcome is pretty > much not gonna change at my age. deep sigh > > > Thanks, > > > Vitalady, Inc. T > www.vitalady.com > > If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: > https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com > > RE: Re: RE: Re: Body awareness > > > > I am 5' 6.5 " and always thought of myself as tall. I was recently talking > > to someone who was only an inch or so taller than me and they told me they > > thought I was short. I would rather be tall than short so at this point > in > > my life, I am just going to continue thinking I am tall no matter what the > > yardstick or anyone else says. > > > > B. > > Open RNY 11/7/01 302 lbs > > TT 10/16/03 145 lbs > > 11/19/03 138 lbs (Life just gets better and better) > > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Ah, that's the word! OK, so maybe you're not statuesque, but you'll always be that hot redhead! LOL in NJ ***************** > statuesque > > Nice word. Rhythmical. Not one that will ever be in front of MY name. LOL! > > > Thanks, > > > Vitalady, Inc. T > www.vitalady.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 At 5'7 " I have always considered myself average in height, in spite of the fact that growing up I was ALWAYS the tallest in the class. Was ALWAYS in the back for pictures. Then I hit the age of 12-13 and that was it. Didn't grow anymore. I always wished I were as tall as some of my girlfriends who were 5'10 " ! Such is life. Are we EVER happy with what life has dealt us? Now, my sister --- also 5'7 " --- and I tease our Mom, who is 5'4 3/4 " , and says she is NOT short. She is of average height for HER generation! I am afraid that when we are all together and she says this my sister and I laugh and say, SURE!!!!! Fortunately, Mom takes the teasing well. She gets even in other ways. LOL Debbie & in Gig Harbor (170cm medial) ladybostons@... http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Same here! I'm 5'6 " and am an inch taller than my oldest brother, but 9 inches shorter than my other brother. Dad is 6'3 " and Mom is 5' even. As for the average slacks, I have to go to the petite racks. Some of us just don't have very long legs no matter how tall we are. My best friend has to get longs and is about the same height. Funny...before WLS I had to get the average length. Love, Reba > > > I am 5'6 " and have always considered myself " average " . When I was a kid everybody predicted that I would be very tall. I wore a women's size 8 shoe when I was 9, my father was 6'4 " , his mother was 6' and his sister was 5'11 " ....but my mother was 5'3 " . I hit this height when I was 12 and haven't grown an inch since. I was disappointed as a teen ager but glad now because it's much easier to find " average " length slacks. > > Debbie in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 I am 5'8 " and have always considered myself average height. However tells me I am tall LOL ~Kricket 298/140 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Dear Beth, I'm 5'9 " and consider myself on the tall side. I take a 32 " leg in jeans if I want them to touch the floor (what can I say? I'm stuck in the 60s... hahahaha). My two sisters are 5'2 " and 5'3 " respectively and are considered short, and my two brothers are 6'1 " and 6'2 " respectively and are considered tall. Also, I believe the tall/short thing is gender based, because, if I was a male, I'd be considered short. I relate to you because you're where I want to be. I've been told that 160-165 is the perfect range for my height and my doc tells me I'll be 'thin' when I get there. So, I guess it's all relative. live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt... Deb in Hazlet, NJ " Debbie Dancer " distal rny September 3, 2002 386/221/165 BMI 60/32.6/24 -165 -92.5 " Angel to Bill, Debbie, Ilene, Roy, and Ro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 > > Do you realize that clothes manufacturers think all fat people must be > > tall? > > But they also think that all thin people are SHORT! [snip] I found myself wondering just WHO the heck was > the woman who would fit into these pants! It's interesting what different experiences we all have. There's sure an amazing variation in body sizes! What really steams me is that men don't go through these problems as much, because *their* clothes come in a wider variety of sizes, like inseam lengths from 29 to 36 or something! Yet we women count ourselves lucky if we can find petite, average, and tall. Land's End will hem to order, for both men and women, in their pants. Not the cheapest solution but worth pursuing if you have a hard time in the stores. Celia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 WAY tall Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com RE: Re: Body awareness > I am 5'8 " and have always considered myself average height. However > tells me I am tall LOL > > ~Kricket > 298/140 > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 My not-quite-four-year old daughter is very tall (42 " ) and doesn't consume any commercial dairy products. If it's due to bovine hormones, it's sneaking into her some other way. And she never had any formula either, she was breastfed until 25 months. Don't know why she's tall, she just is. :-) Z Open RNY 09/17/01 http://www.ziobro.us Re: RE: Re: Body awareness cindyjrubin wrote: Anyone notice that the youngsters today are much taller at much younger ages? My 8 year old niece reached my mouth height already... ************************************************************************ ****** Yes. In fact, the folks here in the office have talked about it alot (the ones that have kids). I've heard that it's attributed to the hormones that are being pumped into cows and the residual effect that it has on their milk. My 9 y.o. is as tall as some of the boys that I went to high school with. I don't know if it's true but it sorta makes sense. Debbie in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 > statuesque Ooh, I don't like this one -- back when I was in high school, I always wore thigh-top stockings instead of pantihose, and you would know, my size (the largest made at Sears at the time) was Statuesque. I took it to mean " your thighs are as big around as the Statue of Liberty's. " Not a pretty picture. ~~ Lyn G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Reubenesque is another good one. Reuben painted fat women. Pretty fat women, but fat nonetheless. I was always a Reuben, and I still think of myself that way. Jac http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/XXXFARMPAINTS mail to: jholdaway@... Order a BRAT 2004 calendar today at: http://www.basenjirescue.org/calendarcontest/ Re: RE: Re: Body awareness > statuesque Ooh, I don't like this one -- back when I was in high school, I always wore thigh-top stockings instead of pantihose, and you would know, my size (the largest made at Sears at the time) was Statuesque. I took it to mean " your thighs are as big around as the Statue of Liberty's. " Not a pretty picture. ~~ Lyn G Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 That'd be me, especially in coloring and round belly shape. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: RE: Re: Body awareness > > > statuesque > > Ooh, I don't like this one -- back when I was in high school, I always wore > thigh-top stockings instead of pantihose, and you would know, my size (the > largest made at Sears at the time) was Statuesque. I took it to mean " your > thighs are as big around as the Statue of Liberty's. " Not a pretty picture. > > ~~ Lyn G > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 I am definitely a reubenesque shape----with my huge hips and butt and tummy, I could be one of those women in those paintings, LOL!!! :-) Re: RE: Re: Body awareness > > > statuesque > > Ooh, I don't like this one -- back when I was in high school, I always wore > thigh-top stockings instead of pantihose, and you would know, my size (the > largest made at Sears at the time) was Statuesque. I took it to mean " your > thighs are as big around as the Statue of Liberty's. " Not a pretty picture. > > ~~ Lyn G > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Speaking of looking good in clothes: Went to a PS a few weeks ago to find out what he could do for my bat wings. After the examination and lots of discussion with the doc (we started talking from the top to the bottom, LOL) I told him that I knew that I would never have the 16 yr old hard body, but I sure would like to look better. That's when his nurse piped up and said " But you look so good in clothes! " I don't think that she realized how this sounded. I just laughed! Problem is...it's so true! <G> Reba > I am 5'2 " and 140 also. I am also being called skinny. hmmmmmm nope, I am > not skinny. I am an apple shape. so tho I am wearing an 8 in jeans and > skirts, in the jeans I could wear a 6 for my but and thighs. 8's are baggy > in the non-existent posterior area. I have to search for " classic fit " cause > the relaxed fit look absolutely like I am wearing clown pants! I do want to > get to 130 if for no other reason then to cushion for the " bounce back " . I > too seriously doubt that my crappy insurance will pay for any reconstructive > surgery. I look good dressed. I cry when I see myself without clothes. Even > my face wrinkled all up and sagged! Oh well I feel much better physically > and that IS the reason I did it! > Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 I always thought of esque as meaning zoftic (big busted). Maybe because my family called me that (in a nice way), rather than say fat & chesty...LOL Well, I'm happy to say that I'm neither anymore. ) in NJ ************************ > Reubenesque is another good one. Reuben painted fat women. Pretty fat women, but fat nonetheless. I was always a Reuben, and I still think of myself that way. > > Jac > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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