Re: Being new...

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

Welcome to the group! Just jump in at anytime and ask any questions you

may have! This group will surely assist you in anyway the we can. I

had my surgery on June 28th and had a Lefort 3-piece. What type of

surgery did you have and how is your recovery going?

--Caboose

>

> Hi, I was searching for ways to promote healing from my surgery two

> weeks ago and found this group! I couldn't believe it. I have so

many

> questions. Do I just jump in and say Hi and go from there, or is there

> some protocol that I need to follow, other than the obvious rules

about

> being polite, etc? I'm really happy about finding others out there,

> plus I had an " episode, " for lack of a better word, last week that

will

> put a smile on the most wired up and screwed in patient of us

> all....lol...so any help would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

> Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi, . My recovery is going great. Why did you have to have more than

one surgery?

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy, welcome! Just jump in! We're a pretty friendly bunch.

What type of surgery did you have? I also had surgery two weeks ago --

lower advancement.

How are you doing? Things are going pretty well for me ....

Luna

[Guest guest]

Hi, Luna...wow, I guess I need to do my homework and get familiar with the

lingo. " Lower advancement " sounds so impressive...lol. Please, please know

that I am just trying to be humorous, not sarcastic. Today is the first day

that I haven't been depressed so I'm really enjoying the moment.....

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

I'm also new to this group.

I had my surgery 12 weeks ago, I wil have another surgery on Wednesday.

How's your recovery going?

kathy_braddock wrote:

Hi, I was searching for ways to promote healing from my surgery two

weeks ago and found this group! I couldn't believe it. I have so many

questions. Do I just jump in and say Hi and go from there, or is there

some protocol that I need to follow, other than the obvious rules about

being polite, etc? I'm really happy about finding others out there,

plus I had an " episode, " for lack of a better word, last week that will

put a smile on the most wired up and screwed in patient of us

all....lol...so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

I will have another surgery on Wednesday to take out the plates and screws that

were put in during my surgery 12 weeks ago. They have become infected and they

are causing a lot of swelling and discomfort so they need to be taken out.

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[Guest guest]

" Lower advancement " isn't so particularly impressive, although it

can make a big difference in the way your mouth fits together.

I had a tiny movement -- 5 mm, forward; 3 mm to the right. After all

the shooting was done, I asked my surgeon if he saw any difference --

I don't -- and he said, " Cam-MIE! It's only a quarter of an inch! "

For many, the movement is greater -- the biggest surgical lower

advancement I've heard of was an amazing 20 mm. And these procedures

can make a striking change in appearance.

But for me, it was nothing spectacular, except that it made my mouth

healthier.

C.

> Hi, Luna...wow, I guess I need to do my homework and get familiar

with the

> lingo. " Lower advancement " sounds so impressive...lol. Please,

please know

> that I am just trying to be humorous, not sarcastic. Today is

the first day

> that I haven't been depressed so I'm really enjoying the

moment.....

>

> Kathy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, gosh I am just so sorry to hear about you and so many others having

such a terrible time. I am just knocking on wood over here, vowing never to

complain again and hoping there isn't another shoe out there somewhere that is

going to drop tomorrow. Don't get me wrong, I am a total wimp, a whiner and

got " scolded " for wanting more pain meds. But I am not wired shut like the

rest of you so that must be why I am having an easier time of things. I

don't even know what else to say except get your rest and keep communicating

through your fingers. I'm sure I speak for everybody when I say I'm here for

you. And thank you for being so friendly to a newbie...

Kathy

[Guest guest]

I need to find out how much my jaw was moved. I don't think it was much. L

> > Hi, Luna...wow, I guess I need to do my homework and get familiar

> with the

> > lingo. " Lower advancement " sounds so impressive...lol. Please,

> please know

> > that I am just trying to be humorous, not sarcastic. Today is

> the first day

> > that I haven't been depressed so I'm really enjoying the

> moment.....

> >

> > Kathy

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

, thank you. Honest to God, I didn't pay that much attention to the

exact terminology but I'm going to look it up. It all sounded so painful, and

it is, but I just called it jaw surgery...lol....I know he broke my upper jaw

and moved it forward and implanted more bone. That's enough detail for me

right now. I'm going to enjoy the two pills that I have left and be thankful

that I stumbled onto this group. Everyone is just so nice. I feel like the

biggest " B " in the world.

Knocking on wood,

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

You shouldn't have got " scolded " for wanting more pain meds I was always asking

for more pain meds. My surgeon told me the day before the surgery that when ever

I was offered pain meds to take them, because there's no point in being in pain

when they can give you something for your pain. Which is totally true.

After my surgery I had a hard time, I had difficulty in breathing due to the

swelling and my air way also swelled up. One nurse kept telling me that I was

having a panic attack and for me to pack it in! I was unable to talk so I

couldn't say anything to her, but luckily I had made friends with the other

people on the ward before the surgery and they sure did give her a piece of

their mind! In the end a scan was requested and it showed the extent of the

swelling and she sure did feel bad then.

I also had a " murderer " on the ward and she kept saying that she shouldn't have

to put up with the noise that I was making and she would shut me up! The other

patients got out of their beds pressed their buzzers and sat by my bed to

protect me! Every nurse cam rushing in and the Dr's too, she admitted to what

she had said and was discharged (she only had a tooth taken out and was asking

for morphine!) and the police were called.

THe woman in the bed next to me was like my personal nurse she would pass me a

drink etc when there was no one around to help. And when my mum would come and

visit she would tell her how i'd been doing.

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[Guest guest]

HOLY POOP! . That's just awful....

Re pain: Better to take it and stay ahead of the pain -- any pain --

than try to play catch up. And that is true of other problems, as

well as jaw surgery, at least imho, and from what I've been advised.

As for the " murderer, " I'd be thinking of legal action against the

hospital and the patient. That's simply dreadful, and no sick person

should have to put up with such. But thank heaven for the other

patients and staffers on the ward!

Reminds me that my dad, who'd had tuberculosis back in the 1930s and

spent many years in hospitals and sanitaria, always said it was way

better to be on a ward. I think we get away from that, now, as

almost all the rooms in today's hospitals (in the U.S., anyhow) seem

to be either private or semiprivate. But there's a certain strength

in numbers.

As for the nurse not taking seriously your complaints of your

airway -- once again, I'd be thinking of lawyers and courthouses. I

cannot imagine any trained caregiver hesitating to take seriously a

complaint of a closing airway, especially when a patient is

receiving -- presumably -- antibiotics, pain and other meds that

could trigger an anaphylactic reaction. Appalling!

I'm so glad that the other folks protected you.

> Kathy,

>

> You shouldn't have got " scolded " for wanting more pain meds I was

always asking for more pain meds. My surgeon told me the day before

the surgery that when ever I was offered pain meds to take them,

because there's no point in being in pain when they can give you

something for your pain. Which is totally true.

>

> After my surgery I had a hard time, I had difficulty in breathing

due to the swelling and my air way also swelled up. One nurse kept

telling me that I was having a panic attack and for me to pack it

in! I was unable to talk so I couldn't say anything to her, but

luckily I had made friends with the other people on the ward before

the surgery and they sure did give her a piece of their mind! In the

end a scan was requested and it showed the extent of the swelling

and she sure did feel bad then.

>

> I also had a " murderer " on the ward and she kept saying that she

shouldn't have to put up with the noise that I was making and she

would shut me up! The other patients got out of their beds pressed

their buzzers and sat by my bed to protect me! Every nurse cam

rushing in and the Dr's too, she admitted to what she had said and

was discharged (she only had a tooth taken out and was asking for

morphine!) and the police were called.

>

> THe woman in the bed next to me was like my personal nurse she

would pass me a drink etc when there was no one around to help. And

when my mum would come and visit she would tell her how i'd been

doing.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

It certainly is better to take it and stay ahead of the pain especially with

this surgery.

I have made a complaint about the hospital and the patient,it seems that the

hospital weren't aware of her " situation " But thank heavens for the other

patients or who knows what she would have doen because she was capable of

carrying out her threat.

I prefer being on the ward in some ways that way you always have some one to

talk to, but on the other hand when people are snoring at 3.00 am in the morning

you always wish you had your own room LOL! and when you want some time on your

own.

The physion happened to be passing and came to see if I was ok, he tried some

massages etc to try and help he thaught that there was something blocking the

airway. But he soon noticed it was something else. He put a call into my surgeon

and arranged a scan. He told my surgeon about what he'd seen and said that the

nurse wasn't fit to care for people in this situation. A few days after I was

trying to tell the same nurse that I wanted some pain meds, she couldn;t

understand me so walked away. So I then resorted back to the pen and paper and

got told off by my surgeon as he wanted me to start talking to see if the

surgery had any impact on my speech, so i told him about the nurse and the other

people on the ward told him. He went MAD and put in a very formal complaint

about him. And I wanted to ask him a question but he was admant that I talked to

him, so he sat there for almost 2 hours until he understood what I was saying.

And told me to keep pressing the beel until someone would

come and listen to me. That sure was fun!

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[Guest guest]

,

If you don't mind me asking; how did you come to realize that the

plates and screws became infected? I mean, did you suspect it, or did

your doctor find it during an exam or from X-rays, etc.?

What were/are your symptoms - and how did they start?

Judy

Hi Kathy,

I will have another surgery on Wednesday to take out the plates and

screws that were put in during my surgery 12 weeks ago. They have

become infected and they are causing a lot of swelling and discomfort

so they need to be taken out.

[Guest guest]

Judy,

At week 4 I think it was I was still very swollen, my cheeks were red and hot

(the first sign of infcetion) it became more painfull and I had some discharge

in my mouth from the back of my palate and fistula which tasted foul. Again a

sign of infection along with a very runny nose. And over the past weeks my face

has swelled back up and is very very painfull.

It's even worse too touch. My surgoen did some x-rays which showed the infection

and it also showed up in my blood tests. My surgeon first became concerned about

the possibility of infection at around week 4 post op.

rainbow55076 wrote:

,

If you don't mind me asking; how did you come to realize that the

plates and screws became infected? I mean, did you suspect it, or did

your doctor find it during an exam or from X-rays, etc.?

What were/are your symptoms - and how did they start?

Judy

Hi Kathy,

I will have another surgery on Wednesday to take out the plates and

screws that were put in during my surgery 12 weeks ago. They have

become infected and they are causing a lot of swelling and discomfort

so they need to be taken out.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

What hospital is that? I think we should all stay

away from that hospital. I know that hospitals tend

to specialize in one or two areas, but NO nurse should

every blow you off like that. I would be making some

serious complaints. Also, with that patient who

threatened you, it doesn't matter that the hospital

wasn't aware of her " situation " . You were in a ward,

so there should have been at least 1 nurse somewhere

in the vacinity to help you out. The hospital does

not sound like they were very attentive to

anyone/thing. I would definitly be taking out many

different suits...One against the patient, one against

the nurse, and at least 2 against the hospital -- 1

for the nurse and one for their lack of supervison

over patients safety.

As for your surgeon, I know that, as the surgeon, he

wants you to talk, but has he ever really though about

how frustrating it can be to try to talk and no one

understand what you are saying?!?! I know, I haven't

had the surgery yet, but I cannot believe that he

would sit there for 2 hours making you talk until he

understood you.

Okay, now that I have gone on and on about this. Have

a good day, hopefully you are recoving well.

Austria

--- Penketh wrote:

> Hello,

>

> It certainly is better to take it and stay ahead of

> the pain especially with this surgery.

>

> I have made a complaint about the hospital and the

> patient,it seems that the hospital weren't aware of

> her " situation " But thank heavens for the other

> patients or who knows what she would have doen

> because she was capable of carrying out her threat.

>

> I prefer being on the ward in some ways that way you

> always have some one to talk to, but on the other

> hand when people are snoring at 3.00 am in the

> morning you always wish you had your own room LOL!

> and when you want some time on your own.

>

> The physion happened to be passing and came to see

> if I was ok, he tried some massages etc to try and

> help he thaught that there was something blocking

> the airway. But he soon noticed it was something

> else. He put a call into my surgeon and arranged a

> scan. He told my surgeon about what he'd seen and

> said that the nurse wasn't fit to care for people in

> this situation. A few days after I was trying to

> tell the same nurse that I wanted some pain meds,

> she couldn;t understand me so walked away. So I

> then resorted back to the pen and paper and got told

> off by my surgeon as he wanted me to start talking

> to see if the surgery had any impact on my speech,

> so i told him about the nurse and the other people

> on the ward told him. He went MAD and put in a very

> formal complaint about him. And I wanted to ask him

> a question but he was admant that I talked to him,

> so he sat there for almost 2 hours until he

> understood what I was saying. And told me to keep

> pressing the beel until someone would

> come and listen to me. That sure was fun!

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Austria,

It's a hospital here in the UK.

I think my surgeon wanted me to know that despite him not being able to

understand me that he was willing to listen. I got so emotional when no one

could understand a word I was saying I actually gave up a few times and resorted

back to pen and paper.

I can't wait until tomorrow so I can get some proper answers.

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