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it was white in substance and chalkie but it had a kinda fruit taste i

wasn't trying to sugar coat anything.

Sagel Burns wrote:That is NOT what they had me

drink, wish I had been at your hospital

:). Mine tasted like dish soap - 100% dish soap. It was horrible. LOL

not to scare anyone, just not sugar coating, what I went through that

day after :).

Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-79 lbs.)

348/269/140 (begin/current/goal)

www.carrieburns.net

> To me it isn't rambling thats just my opinion..... yeah they

> make ya drink this white fruity stuff of course your happy to drink

> it cuz they make ya die of thrist and starve so anything taste good by

> then...LoL..

>

> Lou wrote:Wow...what a day! Glad you

> survived it...and glad I didn't have to

> have one. The leak test is scaring me enough...and turning my ol'

> stomach too! I have been in touch with a few people local who have

> used my surgeon to get the facts before hand. So I am informed and

> still waiting for any information suddenly remember.

> Something you said about the gurney being small for our weight hit

> home cause I was approached once about that same thing a few years

> ago when I was at my highest...300! It was also for stitches in my

> foot after stepping on a huge piece of glass. Oh what a nightmare!

> I was asked how I was prepared to get around since I'd more than

> likely break the crutches. Wheelchairs weren't big enough to

> accomodate me etc...! Luckly I was off the week, used our office

> chair at home to roll around on and slept in a recliner since my bed

> was a waterbed and hard to get in and out normally...LOL! Glad

> those day's are behind me...almost for good! Thanks for letting me

> ramble...LOL!!!

> Hugs,

>

>

>

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Thanks for the chuckle!!! White fruity stuff...uumm!

> To me it isn't rambling thats just my opinion..... yeah

they make ya drink this white fruity stuff of course your happy to

drink it cuz they make ya die of thrist and starve so anything taste

good by then...LoL..

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I was only saying what my hospital used, sugar costing comment wasn't

directed at your experience, yours probably did taste much better than

mine :). The Upper GI stuff wasn't too bad, wish they would have used

that :).

Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-79 lbs.)

348/269/140 (begin/current/goal)

www.carrieburns.net

>

> it was white in substance and chalkie but it had a kinda fruit

> taste i wasn't trying to sugar coat anything.

>

> Sagel Burns wrote:That is NOT what they

> had me drink, wish I had been at your hospital

> :). Mine tasted like dish soap - 100% dish soap. It was horrible. LOL

> not to scare anyone, just not sugar coating, what I went through that

> day after :).

>

>

> Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-79 lbs.)

> 348/269/140 (begin/current/goal)

> www.carrieburns.net

>

>

>

>

>> To me it isn't rambling thats just my opinion..... yeah they

>> make ya drink this white fruity stuff of course your happy to drink

>> it cuz they make ya die of thrist and starve so anything taste good by

>> then...LoL..

>>

>> Lou wrote:Wow...what a day! Glad you

>> survived it...and glad I didn't have to

>> have one. The leak test is scaring me enough...and turning my ol'

>> stomach too! I have been in touch with a few people local who have

>> used my surgeon to get the facts before hand. So I am informed and

>> still waiting for any information suddenly remember.

>> Something you said about the gurney being small for our weight hit

>> home cause I was approached once about that same thing a few years

>> ago when I was at my highest...300! It was also for stitches in my

>> foot after stepping on a huge piece of glass. Oh what a nightmare!

>> I was asked how I was prepared to get around since I'd more than

>> likely break the crutches. Wheelchairs weren't big enough to

>> accomodate me etc...! Luckly I was off the week, used our office

>> chair at home to roll around on and slept in a recliner since my bed

>> was a waterbed and hard to get in and out normally...LOL! Glad

>> those day's are behind me...almost for good! Thanks for letting me

>> ramble...LOL!!!

>> Hugs,

>>

>>

>>

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yeah and yanno i was half asleep too....LoL

Lou wrote:Thanks for the chuckle!!! White fruity

stuff...uumm!

> To me it isn't rambling thats just my opinion..... yeah

they make ya drink this white fruity stuff of course your happy to

drink it cuz they make ya die of thrist and starve so anything taste

good by then...LoL..

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oh and i hadda lay on my belly to drink it no less how many times you been told

to lay on ya belly to drink white fruity stuff?

Lou wrote:Thanks for the chuckle!!! White fruity

stuff...uumm!

> To me it isn't rambling thats just my opinion..... yeah

they make ya drink this white fruity stuff of course your happy to

drink it cuz they make ya die of thrist and starve so anything taste

good by then...LoL..

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smiles n/p giggles and hugsss!

Sagel Burns wrote:I was only saying what my hospital

used, sugar costing comment wasn't

directed at your experience, yours probably did taste much better than

mine :). The Upper GI stuff wasn't too bad, wish they would have used

that :).

Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-79 lbs.)

348/269/140 (begin/current/goal)

www.carrieburns.net

>

> it was white in substance and chalkie but it had a kinda fruit

> taste i wasn't trying to sugar coat anything.

>

> Sagel Burns wrote:That is NOT what they

> had me drink, wish I had been at your hospital

> :). Mine tasted like dish soap - 100% dish soap. It was horrible. LOL

> not to scare anyone, just not sugar coating, what I went through that

> day after :).

>

>

> Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-79 lbs.)

> 348/269/140 (begin/current/goal)

> www.carrieburns.net

>

>

>

>

>> To me it isn't rambling thats just my opinion..... yeah they

>> make ya drink this white fruity stuff of course your happy to drink

>> it cuz they make ya die of thrist and starve so anything taste good by

>> then...LoL..

>>

>> Lou wrote:Wow...what a day! Glad you

>> survived it...and glad I didn't have to

>> have one. The leak test is scaring me enough...and turning my ol'

>> stomach too! I have been in touch with a few people local who have

>> used my surgeon to get the facts before hand. So I am informed and

>> still waiting for any information suddenly remember.

>> Something you said about the gurney being small for our weight hit

>> home cause I was approached once about that same thing a few years

>> ago when I was at my highest...300! It was also for stitches in my

>> foot after stepping on a huge piece of glass. Oh what a nightmare!

>> I was asked how I was prepared to get around since I'd more than

>> likely break the crutches. Wheelchairs weren't big enough to

>> accomodate me etc...! Luckly I was off the week, used our office

>> chair at home to roll around on and slept in a recliner since my bed

>> was a waterbed and hard to get in and out normally...LOL! Glad

>> those day's are behind me...almost for good! Thanks for letting me

>> ramble...LOL!!!

>> Hugs,

>>

>>

>>

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,

I'm glad your sister understands what you have been going through and will

support you. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers as you go through this

insurance journey and that it will soon lead to your joining the losing side

and a healthier and happier life. Take care and know that we are all here for

you.

Laurette

4/23/04 open rny

309/290/237/150

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One time i made a remark to a skinny friend of mine Dora oh you have it so easy

being skinny. And she replied back to me you think its easy being skinny? She

said i have to work at being skinny everyday. I have to watch what i eat i have

to work out almost everyday sometimes my life gets so busy so i work out when i

can but i work out most everyday. She says to stay this skinny it takes alot of

work it doesn't just come natural to me. So from that point on i knew that there

was something i wasn't doing right not totally but i just knew that it was not

that i was totally dealt a bad hand in my life.

in SNJ.

Dora McCary wrote:

,

How familiar your story is unfortunately. There are so many things that the

average world does not think about. I had one such incidence this week. I went

to join a gym to try and get a little in shape before the surgery and to

continue going after. Anywho, we go through the tour of the facility and we go

to sit down and discuss price, etc. They have these flimsy little plastic

outdoor chairs. Needless to say my big butt won't fit in it and I had to perch

on the edge and hope that it did not collapse under me. I made it through the

meeting uncomfortable to made it through. I went back in yesterday for my

follow-up with the personal trainer and noticed that they had replaced them with

metal folding chairs. At least they noticed and did something about it. The

point being the skinny world at large don't understand what we large people have

to go through. I don't think that they are necessarily being insensitive, they

just don't understand. I wish I didn't.

Dora in Tennessee

Lap/Open RNY 9/20/2004

Vanderbilt Hospital

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I agree with that completely. For many skinny people they have to work too. I

would not be where I am if I had worked hard enough when I was smaller. Now it

has gotten to the point that I need more help than I can give myself alone. But

I do agree. I am just talking about those who have been skinny their whole

lives and they just can't see the world from our eyes. If you have never had to

worry about whether you will fit in a chair or not you don't realize it might be

a problem. It is not that they, for the most part, are trying to be rude or

insensitive they just don't understand it from our side.

Dora in Tennessee

Lap/Open RNY 9/20/2004

Vanderbilt Hospital

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Thats true alot don't Dora you are so right...big hugss......

Dora McCary wrote:I agree with that

completely. For many skinny people they have to work too. I would not be where

I am if I had worked hard enough when I was smaller. Now it has gotten to the

point that I need more help than I can give myself alone. But I do agree. I am

just talking about those who have been skinny their whole lives and they just

can't see the world from our eyes. If you have never had to worry about whether

you will fit in a chair or not you don't realize it might be a problem. It is

not that they, for the most part, are trying to be rude or insensitive they just

don't understand it from our side.

Dora in Tennessee

Lap/Open RNY 9/20/2004

Vanderbilt Hospital

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, I wish you all the best in your journey through this, it can

be a tough road, but it's a good one and as you show below, there are

certainly reasons for it. We're all here for you!

Lap RNY April 9, 2004 (-79 lbs.)

348/269/140 (begin/current/goal)

www.carrieburns.net

> Sorry this is kinda long....

>

> My sister asked me, why do By-pass surgery? She said that everyone

> loves me for who I am not what I look like. I began to explain the

> first reason was my health, I wanted to be around to continue to watch

> my children grow and hopefully see Grandkids one day.

>

> Then I started to explain my other reasons, such as fitting into

> chairs, events, just going to a family function and having to make

> sure you bring your own seat. I told her it was embarrassing to not

> be able to sit down and you don't want to make a big deal of it so you

> usually come up with an excuse... Like I've been sitting all day!!

> You can't take plane rides because you overlap on the next person's

> seat or you have to buy two. I explained to her that I want to live

> life instead of watching everyone else. I feel like I'm on the

> sidelines of a game watching everyone else play this game of life.

>

> However, after I explained this to my sister she understood and said

> she would support me. She said she never knew what I was going

> through and cried.

>

> I look forward for the day that my insurance calls me and lets me know

> I'm approved. Right now my insurance is requesting more

> documentation: Doctor's notes 3 years show attempts, I need a Psych

> Eval & Dietician Eval.

>

> I hear all the positives here and it keeps my hopes up everyday. I

> look forward to one day when I can be apart of the losing side myself.

> There are days those I want to just cry because I know I may have to

> wait and do another 26 week program just to proof I am a failure again

> .that part stinks!

>

> Dora McCary wrote:

> That is the very reason I don't go to the Titans games with my

> husband. He always asks and I have to explain I just can't do it.

> Maybe some day.

>

> Dora in Tennessee

> Lap/Open RNY 9/20/2004

> Vanderbilt Hospital

>

>

>

>

>

>

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My insurance carrier is PHCS, (Guardian) - I recieved a letter Saturday with

said: " Determination - Non - Certification " which means services are not

recommended for approval per the PHCS physicaian who is PHCS reviewer. But then

it states PHCS is a medical review company and does not determine benefits,

payment or eligibility. The final determination of benefits and payments rest

with my insurance carrier or plan administrator. PHCS reason for non-cert of

the admissions for Morbid Obesity is : The clinical inforamtion does ot support

the requested level of care.

I'm lost??? My coverage under Guardian statest in my benefit book that as long

as I have a BMI 35 and above and have one of the conditions they stated by-pass

surgery would be covered. How can they state that then turn me down? I have

Sleep Apnea with a BMI of 54. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I do

now? They are giving me 180 days to Appeal.

What do I need to do know.. Any suggestions?

Judith wrote:

It's so much easier herein Al. It took a year, but the insurance was very

quick in answering with a big yes (mayhap because I HAD diabetes.

I feel for you because I have been there, but know it is getting better.

Every day a little bit...... Maybe if you start by eating what we have to

eat - so you get used to it.... Maybe you have a YMCA or a pool you can use

to do some low impact exercise until your surgery so your joints won't hurt

so bad; I know mine do. What is your insurance carrier?

Good luck.

JJ

-- RE: Today

Sorry this is kinda long....

My sister asked me, why do By-pass surgery? She said that everyone loves me

for who I am not what I look like. I began to explain the first reason was

my health, I wanted to be around to continue to watch my children grow and

hopefully see Grandkids one day.

Then I started to explain my other reasons, such as fitting into chairs,

events, just going to a family function and having to make sure you bring

your own seat. I told her it was embarrassing to not be able to sit down

and you don't want to make a big deal of it so you usually come up with an

excuse... Like I've been sitting all day!! You can't take plane rides

because you overlap on the next person's seat or you have to buy two. I

explained to her that I want to live life instead of watching everyone else.

I feel like I'm on the sidelines of a game watching everyone else play this

game of life.

However, after I explained this to my sister she understood and said she

would support me. She said she never knew what I was going through and

cried.

I look forward for the day that my insurance calls me and lets me know I'm

approved. Right now my insurance is requesting more documentation: Doctor's

notes 3 years show attempts, I need a Psych Eval & Dietician Eval.

I hear all the positives here and it keeps my hopes up everyday. I look

forward to one day when I can be apart of the losing side myself. There are

days those I want to just cry because I know I may have to wait and do

another 26 week program just to proof I am a failure again….that part

stinks!

Dora McCary wrote:

That is the very reason I don't go to the Titans games with my husband. He

always asks and I have to explain I just can't do it. Maybe some day.

Dora in Tennessee

Lap/Open RNY 9/20/2004

Vanderbilt Hospital

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