group polls

[Guest guest]

Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but is it

possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do a little

research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I could just

do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

Kate

[Guest guest]

Kate,

From what I understand, this particular group does not have a moderator

per se. I remember Fiddlesticks explaining a while back that this

group runs in a slightly different way than other yahoo groups do. That

said, maybe will be able to tell you how to do the polling thing,

which I must confess, I have no idea what it's about.

Sara

> Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but is it

> possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do a little

> research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I could just

> do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

> Kate

[Guest guest]

Not exactly right, Sara. Ray Carbone is the moderator here.

I believe that Fiddlesticks, who is the moderator of group 2

(where I am co-moderator), and who is, I think, out of pocket for a

few days, on a project, tried to establish a site for polls, etc.,

but found that it was not much used by actual patients. I don't know

whether that site is still functional, and don't have access to the

link at the moment..

As a co-moderator, frankly, I would want to know more about why you

want to do this.

I'm more interested in trying to help folks than I am in providing

data for folks who are doing research papers. If that sounds

hostile, it's not meant to. But people need frankness on these

sites, need to be able to say their worst fears and best hopes,

without worries about winding up as a footnote somewhere.

Cammie

> > Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but is it

> > possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do a

little

> > research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I could

just

> > do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

> > Kate

[Guest guest]

I'm trying to decide whether to have surgery or not, so I think a poll would

be interesting for me. I have another question?

The surgeon I saw told me that if I did have surgery, he would not use wires

but plates instead, which would allow me not to have my jaw wired shut.

From listening to the talk, here a lot of people have had wiring instead of

plates...does anyone know the difference and why? The thought of my face

being full of metal plates and screws really turns me off.

-- Re: group polls

Not exactly right, Sara. Ray Carbone is the moderator here.

I believe that Fiddlesticks, who is the moderator of group 2

(where I am co-moderator), and who is, I think, out of pocket for a

few days, on a project, tried to establish a site for polls, etc.,

but found that it was not much used by actual patients. I don't know

whether that site is still functional, and don't have access to the

link at the moment..

As a co-moderator, frankly, I would want to know more about why you

want to do this.

I'm more interested in trying to help folks than I am in providing

data for folks who are doing research papers. If that sounds

hostile, it's not meant to. But people need frankness on these

sites, need to be able to say their worst fears and best hopes,

without worries about winding up as a footnote somewhere.

Cammie

> > Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but is it

> > possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do a

little

> > research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I could

just

> > do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

> > Kate

[Guest guest]

Ah yes, Cammie you are right. Ray is the moderator but he does not

have the power to edit our memberships and our owner is an absent one

right? Hence why we get more spam than group 2.

> > > Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but is it

> > > possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do a

> little

> > > research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I could

> just

> > > do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

> > > Kate

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

It really seems to vary surgeon to surgeon and with individual cases. Over here

in the UK most people are given rigid fixation (plates and screws), but from

reading posts from the group it seems its quite common to be wired shut after

surgery in the US. As someone else said just today it really depends on finding

a surgeon that you are comfortable with and trusting their decision.

And as and when I get that far, (as it looks like being the end of summer before

I even get my braces now) I have been told I will be having plates and screws,

which I agree does freak me out a bit! But then there are always resorbable

plates and screws now too so you don't necessarily have a face full of metal.

Keep asking questions, the guys on here are great!

Suzan

Pouye wrote:

I'm trying to decide whether to have surgery or not, so I think a poll would

be interesting for me. I have another question?

The surgeon I saw told me that if I did have surgery, he would not use wires

but plates instead, which would allow me not to have my jaw wired shut.

From listening to the talk, here a lot of people have had wiring instead of

plates...does anyone know the difference and why? The thought of my face

being full of metal plates and screws really turns me off.

-- Re: group polls

Not exactly right, Sara. Ray Carbone is the moderator here.

I believe that Fiddlesticks, who is the moderator of group 2

(where I am co-moderator), and who is, I think, out of pocket for a

few days, on a project, tried to establish a site for polls, etc.,

but found that it was not much used by actual patients. I don't know

whether that site is still functional, and don't have access to the

link at the moment..

As a co-moderator, frankly, I would want to know more about why you

want to do this.

I'm more interested in trying to help folks than I am in providing

data for folks who are doing research papers. If that sounds

hostile, it's not meant to. But people need frankness on these

sites, need to be able to say their worst fears and best hopes,

without worries about winding up as a footnote somewhere.

Cammie

> > Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but is it

> > possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do a

little

> > research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I could

just

> > do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

> > Kate

[Guest guest]

Hi

I'm based in the US at the moment and I am having rigid fixation done

for my surgery therefore lots of plates and screws. I think rigid

fixation is just as common as wiring here in the US. The pioneers of

orthognathic surgery are in fact from Canada, the UK and Switzerland

and both methods are used in all of these countries so it really

depends on case by case as S. said and it depends on your

doctor. Some doctors hate the wiring method and others really prefer

it over rigid fixation. You should realize that even with wiring you

have some level of plates or metal put into your jaw that will stay

there forever, just not as much as with rigid fixation. The way I see

it is that having this surgery is like having your leg or arm

severely broken and having to put in metal plates and screws to make

sure that it heals properly. Now we know that people have been doing

this to their arms and legs for years and have survived so I don't

see why our jaws can't.

Good luck in making your decision. It's a tough one.

Sara

> > > Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but is it

> > > possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do a

> little

> > > research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I could

> just

> > > do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

> > > Kate

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[Guest guest]

Cammie,

I'll try not to take that personally. Given I'm not new to this

group, I certainly hope you would think more of me than that... if

you don't, then frankness on this site is of little value when

judgment comes so swiftly.

I was hoping to put together some information regarding pre- and post-

op pain management and effectiveness. This interest was sparked by

something I learned in anesthesiology class yesterday, and I wanted

to see where human medicine was in that respect, basically so I know

what to look forward to - or change, and to know how to advise others

to ask more effective questions.

There are several reasons why I was inquiring about doing it as a

poll - Since the information I would like spans a time frame of 2

weeks or so, and people are staggered in their surgery dates, having

something posted to fill out as they wish might be less demanding. I

also want to be as unobtrusive as possible, not sending out e-mails

to everyone with a list of questions.

If doing a poll is not feasible, the other option could be to create

a word file to post online for members to complete and send back to

me (even by snail mail if they want anonymity) if they would be

willing.

Please understand - this has absolutely nothing to do with

a " research paper, " nor would I ever wish to exploit anyone on this

group - or anyone for that matter. That was never my intention!

I'd be more than happy to go into more details concerning what I had

learned and what I'd like to find out, but if this is going to raise

hackles then I sincerely apologize and will drop the whole thing. I

just wanted to find out if doing a poll was even an option with this

format before I wasted anyone's time.

Kate

> > > Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but is it

> > > possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do a

> little

> > > research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I could

> just

> > > do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

> > > Kate

[Guest guest]

Kate

I'd be more than happy to fill out any questionnaires for you in

poll, word file or snail mail format:-) Your research sounds very

interesting.

Sara

> > > > Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but is

it

> > > > possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do a

> > little

> > > > research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I

could

> > just

> > > > do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

> > > > Kate

[Guest guest]

Kate:

I agree with Sara in that I will be more than willing to fill out any

questionnaires to help with your research.

Good Luck,

> > > > > Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but

is

> it

> > > > > possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do

a

> > > little

> > > > > research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I

> could

> > > just

> > > > > do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

> > > > > Kate

[Guest guest]

Kate,

Sure, count me in! I'd be happy to participate in whatever format is

possible.

Carol

> > > > Kate,

> > > >

> > > > From what I understand, this particular group does not have a

> > > moderator

> > > > per se. I remember Fiddlesticks explaining a while back

> > that

> > > this

> > > > group runs in a slightly different way than other yahoo

groups

> > do.

> > > That

> > > > said, maybe will be able to tell you how to do the

> polling

> > > thing,

> > > > which I must confess, I have no idea what it's about.

> > > >

> > > > Sara

[Guest guest]

As Cammie said, I'm not the moderator here, only of site 2. I know, for

that site, and probably this one too, the polls function doesn't work (only

for sites created as groups initially and not as clubs, I think, which

unless you'd been a longtime member, you wouldn't know). I did set up

another site for polls but it was never really used except by a couple of

people.

Personally I don't think polls are that useful since you only get a small

cross-section of patients at any one time on the sites, and the majority

tend to be people waiting for surgery, those who might have had a good

recovery tend to be in the minority as they move on. I also don't agree

with collecting personal info, but that's my own opinion and how I

moderate the activities on site 2.

As Cammie said, I'm not as active for the next little while as I'm working

on a special project and time on the computer is quite limited. Hope that

helps to explain your questions about polls here.

Hope that helps,

> > > Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but is it

> > > possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do a

> little

> > > research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I could

> just

> > > do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

> > > Kate

[Guest guest]

Thank you, !

I wasn't sure what format this group was formed as, so I didn't know

if it was possible. I think I'm going to try to go ahead and put

something together in some way or another.

I understand your concern regarding using personal information... I

really just want some basics, nothing too probing. And I respect

your opinion in that regard, but if it's on a voluntary basis I don't

feel it is an issue. I certainly wouldn't use information provided

from the e-mails, only what was offered to me in format with

consent.

Since others have expressed interest in the idea of a poll of one

form or another, it couldn't hurt. If people choose not to

participate, they are more than welcome to pass on by - no problem!

If nothing else, it could keep my mind occupied for the summer :-)

Have a good weekend!

Kate

> > > > Hi! I don't know who the moderator is for this group, but is

it

> > > > possible to turn the " poll " feature on? I would like to do a

> > little

> > > > research project, and it would be greatly simplified if I

could

> > just

> > > > do it as a long-standing poll. Thanks!

> > > > Kate

[Guest guest]

Kate,

This may be weird but I love surveys and polls it can really be a

helpful tool. Anything I can do let me know.

Jane

> > > > > Kate,

> > > > >

> > > > > From what I understand, this particular group does not have a

> > > > moderator

> > > > > per se. I remember Fiddlesticks explaining a while back

> > > that

> > > > this

> > > > > group runs in a slightly different way than other yahoo

> groups

> > > do.

> > > > That

> > > > > said, maybe will be able to tell you how to do the

> > polling

> > > > thing,

> > > > > which I must confess, I have no idea what it's about.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sara