Re: list of foods that trigger yeast -most not scd legal

[Guest guest]

I guess because coffee and tea affect the adrenals, and pickles are a fermented

food.

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> i was shocked at coffee, tea and pickles - and saddened! lol

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> • Alcohol

> • Bagels

> • Baker's yeast

> • Barbecue Sauce

> • Beer

> • Bisto

> • Bread

> • Bread rolls

> • Brewer's yeast

> • Buttermilk

> • Canned and frozen fruit juices

> • Chili Sauce

> • Cider

> • Citric Acid

> • Coffee

> • Cream Cheese

> • Dates

> • Engevita

> • Figs

> • Grapes and Grape Juice

> • Horseradish

> • Ketchup

> • Malt beverages

> • Mayonnaise

> • Mincemeat

> • Mustard

> • MSG (often extracted from autolyzed yeast extract or from wheat)

> • Nutritional yeast

> • Olives

> • Pickles

> • Pita Bread

> • Pizza Crust

> • Powdered Milk

> • Pretzels

> • Prunes

> • Raisins

> • Relish

> • Ricotta Cheese

> • Root Beer

> • Rusk

> • Salad Dressing

> • Sake

> • Shrimp Sauce

> • Sour Cream

> • Sour dough bread

> • Soy sauce

> • Steak Sauce

> • Tea

> • Torula

> • Vecon

> • Vinegar

> • Vitamin B supplements (depending on the source of the vitamin

> • Wine

> • Worcestershire sauce

> • Yeast Extract (Bovril, Cenovis, Marmite, Oxo, Promite, Vegemite)

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> [editor's note: some items on this list are disputed. See comments below. Some

items may have yeast or yeast products added to them, depending on the brand.

Also, some items, such as beer, have more yeast in them than others, such as

distilled alcohol, which has little to none.]

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> 4 admin August 4, 2008 at 17:03

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[Guest guest]

I wonder if mayo made with lemon juice instead of vinegar would still be a yeast

trigger?

And, until 8 days ago, I drank coffee like a fiend. I bet that didn't help me

much at all.

Misty

> • Mayonnaise

[Guest guest]

i thought fermented fought yeast, like our yogurt - so confusing

eileen

> >

> > i was shocked at coffee, tea and pickles - and saddened! lol

> >

> >

> > • Alcohol

> > • Bagels

> > • Baker's yeast

> > • Barbecue Sauce

> > • Beer

> > • Bisto

> > • Bread

> > • Bread rolls

> > • Brewer's yeast

> > • Buttermilk

> > • Canned and frozen fruit juices

> > • Chili Sauce

> > • Cider

> > • Citric Acid

> > • Coffee

> > • Cream Cheese

> > • Dates

> > • Engevita

> > • Figs

> > • Grapes and Grape Juice

> > • Horseradish

> > • Ketchup

> > • Malt beverages

> > • Mayonnaise

> > • Mincemeat

> > • Mustard

> > • MSG (often extracted from autolyzed yeast extract or from wheat)

> > • Nutritional yeast

> > • Olives

> > • Pickles

> > • Pita Bread

> > • Pizza Crust

> > • Powdered Milk

> > • Pretzels

> > • Prunes

> > • Raisins

> > • Relish

> > • Ricotta Cheese

> > • Root Beer

> > • Rusk

> > • Salad Dressing

> > • Sake

> > • Shrimp Sauce

> > • Sour Cream

> > • Sour dough bread

> > • Soy sauce

> > • Steak Sauce

> > • Tea

> > • Torula

> > • Vecon

> > • Vinegar

> > • Vitamin B supplements (depending on the source of the vitamin

> > • Wine

> > • Worcestershire sauce

> > • Yeast Extract (Bovril, Cenovis, Marmite, Oxo, Promite, Vegemite)

> >

> > [editor's note: some items on this list are disputed. See comments below.

Some items may have yeast or yeast products added to them, depending on the

brand. Also, some items, such as beer, have more yeast in them than others, such

as distilled alcohol, which has little to none.]

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> > Reply

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> > 4 admin August 4, 2008 at 17:03

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[Guest guest]

Coffee depletes good bacteria so the idea is that it won't help someone

repopulate the gut.. Same with strong tea the exception being Green Tea as that

can actually help die-off. Obviously, everyone needs to test out their own

tolerance level and see what works for them.

I still work on the notion of moderation myself as some things are just so darn

good! LOL.

Supermarket Pickles today are not fermented so that they have good bacteria. If

you make the ferment than pickles should be fine barring you don't use some

insane amount of vinegar.

Lots of pickles aren't even gluten free these days.

Jodi

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> > > i was shocked at coffee, tea and pickles - and saddened! lol

> > >

> > >

> > > • Alcohol

> > > • Bagels

> > > • Baker's yeast

> > > • Barbecue Sauce

> > > • Beer

> > > • Bisto

> > > • Bread

> > > • Bread rolls

> > > • Brewer's yeast

> > > • Buttermilk

> > > • Canned and frozen fruit juices

> > > • Chili Sauce

> > > • Cider

> > > • Citric Acid

> > > • Coffee

> > > • Cream Cheese

> > > • Dates

> > > • Engevita

> > > • Figs

> > > • Grapes and Grape Juice

> > > • Horseradish

> > > • Ketchup

> > > • Malt beverages

> > > • Mayonnaise

> > > • Mincemeat

> > > • Mustard

> > > • MSG (often extracted from autolyzed yeast extract or from wheat)

> > > • Nutritional yeast

> > > • Olives

> > > • Pickles

> > > • Pita Bread

> > > • Pizza Crust

> > > • Powdered Milk

> > > • Pretzels

> > > • Prunes

> > > • Raisins

> > > • Relish

> > > • Ricotta Cheese

> > > • Root Beer

> > > • Rusk

> > > • Salad Dressing

> > > • Sake

> > > • Shrimp Sauce

> > > • Sour Cream

> > > • Sour dough bread

> > > • Soy sauce

> > > • Steak Sauce

> > > • Tea

> > > • Torula

> > > • Vecon

> > > • Vinegar

> > > • Vitamin B supplements (depending on the source of the vitamin

> > > • Wine

> > > • Worcestershire sauce

> > > • Yeast Extract (Bovril, Cenovis, Marmite, Oxo, Promite, Vegemite)

> > >

> > > [editor's note: some items on this list are disputed. See comments below.

Some items may have yeast or yeast products added to them, depending on the

brand. Also, some items, such as beer, have more yeast in them than others, such

as distilled alcohol, which has little to none.]

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> > > 4 admin August 4, 2008 at 17:03

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[Guest guest]

I believe Bubbies pickles have been tested and do contain live cultures, so I

bet they don't feed yeast.

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> > > > i was shocked at coffee, tea and pickles - and saddened! lol

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > • Alcohol

> > > > • Bagels

> > > > • Baker's yeast

> > > > • Barbecue Sauce

> > > > • Beer

> > > > • Bisto

> > > > • Bread

> > > > • Bread rolls

> > > > • Brewer's yeast

> > > > • Buttermilk

> > > > • Canned and frozen fruit juices

> > > > • Chili Sauce

> > > > • Cider

> > > > • Citric Acid

> > > > • Coffee

> > > > • Cream Cheese

> > > > • Dates

> > > > • Engevita

> > > > • Figs

> > > > • Grapes and Grape Juice

> > > > • Horseradish

> > > > • Ketchup

> > > > • Malt beverages

> > > > • Mayonnaise

> > > > • Mincemeat

> > > > • Mustard

> > > > • MSG (often extracted from autolyzed yeast extract or from wheat)

> > > > • Nutritional yeast

> > > > • Olives

> > > > • Pickles

> > > > • Pita Bread

> > > > • Pizza Crust

> > > > • Powdered Milk

> > > > • Pretzels

> > > > • Prunes

> > > > • Raisins

> > > > • Relish

> > > > • Ricotta Cheese

> > > > • Root Beer

> > > > • Rusk

> > > > • Salad Dressing

> > > > • Sake

> > > > • Shrimp Sauce

> > > > • Sour Cream

> > > > • Sour dough bread

> > > > • Soy sauce

> > > > • Steak Sauce

> > > > • Tea

> > > > • Torula

> > > > • Vecon

> > > > • Vinegar

> > > > • Vitamin B supplements (depending on the source of the vitamin

> > > > • Wine

> > > > • Worcestershire sauce

> > > > • Yeast Extract (Bovril, Cenovis, Marmite, Oxo, Promite, Vegemite)

> > > >

> > > > [editor's note: some items on this list are disputed. See comments

below. Some items may have yeast or yeast products added to them, depending on

the brand. Also, some items, such as beer, have more yeast in them than others,

such as distilled alcohol, which has little to none.]

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> > > > Reply

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> > > > 4 admin August 4, 2008 at 17:03

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[Guest guest]

Supermarket Pickles today are not fermented so that they have good bacteria. If you make the ferment than pickles should be fine barring you don't use some insane amount of vinegar.Except BUBBIES! Besides being legal ( I think there's a letter at pecanbread? I know there is somewhere), they actually ARE fermented. Just cucumbers, water, salt, and spices as ingredients =) So, some more lovely lactobacilli for the gut! Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 22.5 mg 1x per day

[Guest guest]

I think it's more of the vinegar used to make the pickles that's the yeast

trigger.

Misty

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> i thought fermented fought yeast, like our yogurt - so confusing

> eileen

[Guest guest]

So is vinegar completely off-limits if yeast is a worry?Subject: Re: list of foods that trigger yeast -most not scd legalTo: BTVC-SCD Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 11:08 AM

I think it's more of the vinegar used to make the pickles that's the yeast trigger.

Misty

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> i thought fermented fought yeast, like our yogurt - so confusing

> eileen

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure. Hopefully someone else will chime in on this.

Misty

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> So is vinegar completely off-limits if yeast is a worry?

[Guest guest]

> I'm not sure. Hopefully someone else will chime in on this.

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> Misty

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>> So is vinegar completely off-limits if yeast is a worry?

If it is a worry, I'd be very moderate, and then check out if you actually have

yeast or

not. Also, use s. boulardii, which helps a lot. If you have a bad case of

yeast,

OTOH, switch it to lemon or lime.

Mara

[Guest guest]

We

often refer to yogurt as fermented but in fact it is coagulated milk and doesn’t

contain any yeast, just bacteria. We need the probiotic benefits of yogurt when

dealing with a disrupted gut ecology and candida/yeast overgrowth.

Bacteria is good, yeast is not.

The

fermented foods that contain yeast are the ones that we should limit or avoid

when dealing with high levels of yeast/candida. Things like wine, vinegar,

beer. Foods containing yeast, even if a slightly different type, just encourage

the growth of candida. S. Boulardii is one of the exceptions to the rule

(it is a form of yeast), although not everyone dealing with candida can

tolerate it or find it helpful in lowering candida levels.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

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thought fermented fought yeast, like our yogurt - so confusing

eileen

[Guest guest]

thanks - another quick ? Kim - I asked doc about dccc since cheese feeds yeast

- she said go to once a week but since us yeasties check carbs to see if things

are ok -i did and that has 0 - so can I increase it??? I so love it!!

thanks

eileen

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> We often refer to yogurt as fermented but in fact it is coagulated milk and

> doesn't contain any yeast, just bacteria. We need the probiotic benefits of

> yogurt when dealing with a disrupted gut ecology and candida/yeast

> overgrowth. Bacteria is good, yeast is not.

>

>

>

> The fermented foods that contain yeast are the ones that we should limit or

> avoid when dealing with high levels of yeast/candida. Things like wine,

> vinegar, beer. Foods containing yeast, even if a slightly different type,

> just encourage the growth of candida. S. Boulardii is one of the exceptions

> to the rule (it is a form of yeast), although not everyone dealing with

> candida can tolerate it or find it helpful in lowering candida levels.

>

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> Kim M.

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> SCD 6 years

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> Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

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> neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

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> i thought fermented fought yeast, like our yogurt - so confusing

> eileen

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[Guest guest]

Do

you feel your digestion is coping well with DCCC? That is another aspect

to dealing with yeast; foods that aren’t completely digested tend to

supply plenty of nourishment to candida/yeast. Dairy can be problematic for

our digestions. And in all the yeast/candida elimination diet

recommendations I’ve seen, none of them included dairy products until

significant progress had been made. Of course the experts were probably

considering aged cheeses rather than DCCC, and assuming lactose was present.

Still, something to keep in mind despite the carb count of DCCC – it is a

possibility.

I’m

afraid this might be the food you’ll need to experiment with. Try

limiting yourself to once a week for 2 months, and see if your yeast

levels decline and your symptoms improve. If no change, then you can eat

DCCC more often.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

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thanks

- another quick ? Kim - I asked doc about dccc since cheese feeds yeast - she

said go to once a week but since us yeasties check carbs to see if things are

ok -i did and that has 0 - so can I increase it??? I so love it!!

thanks

eileen

[Guest guest]

i felt good on it -i do see some dairy (cheese) disturbances but since it's no

carb and I felt ok -I think i'll increase and trust my gut - lol -as to if I

need to decrease

thanks

eileen

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> Do you feel your digestion is coping well with DCCC? That is another aspect

> to dealing with yeast; foods that aren't completely digested tend to supply

> plenty of nourishment to candida/yeast. Dairy can be problematic for our

> digestions. And in all the yeast/candida elimination diet recommendations

> I've seen, none of them included dairy products until significant progress

> had been made. Of course the experts were probably considering aged cheeses

> rather than DCCC, and assuming lactose was present. Still, something to

> keep in mind despite the carb count of DCCC - it is a possibility.

>

>

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> I'm afraid this might be the food you'll need to experiment with. Try

> limiting yourself to once a week for 2 months, and see if your yeast levels

> decline and your symptoms improve. If no change, then you can eat DCCC more

> often.

>

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>

> Kim M.

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> SCD 6 years

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>

> thanks - another quick ? Kim - I asked doc about dccc since cheese feeds

> yeast - she said go to once a week but since us yeasties check carbs to see

> if things are ok -i did and that has 0 - so can I increase it??? I so love

> it!!

> thanks

> eileen

>