Re: SCD - Newbie on limited foods

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I just remind myself that I had to rely on Pedialyte and Boost before I started

SCD, and real food is so much better.

Yes, it is hard to start and be so limited, but I saw SCD as a new way of eating

and the limits were part of the learning process. As I started to feel better, I

was able to add more foods, and began to feel like I was getting my life back.

Although SCD feels restricted, feeling better makes it all worth it.

PJ

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> This is not a complaint! but how do others deal with feeling that just

couldn't eat another ......any food they are having over and over again at the

start of the diet eg carrots or chicken soup.

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> When I read that others are surviving on eg four foods each day, I can't

imagine how you don't feel sick at the thought of the same eg steamed zucchini

over and over.

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> Because I do feel sick and that makes me vulnerable to grabbing a food from a

later Stage than I am at.

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> Any hints or tips appreciated:-)

> IBS 15 months

> SCD Day 8

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[Guest guest]

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>> This is not a complaint! but how do others deal with feeling that just

couldn't eat another ......any food they are having over and over again at the

start of the diet eg carrots or chicken soup.

Even at the beginning there are ways of making these foods appetizing.

You can also have meat broth as well as chicken broth. If you add a soft boiled

egg to it, it becomes

much richer. Also, you can soon add in chicken balls or meat balls.

I liked pureed carrots with grass fed butter and sea salt. I added in parsley

quite soon after intro,

so I added that as well (or also dill). If you are dairy free, you can do the

same with coconut oil or

chicken fat.

Steamed zucchini doesn't sounds very good by itself - but of course, it doesn't

have to be steamed.

I like to roast some zucchini (and carrots) in a pan with a whole chicken. That

way, it absorbs some

of the cooking juices and fat from the chicken. Sometimes I also add some

diluted juice to the pan

for more flavoring.

If you are tolerating it, you can puree steamed zucc. and you can add in DCCC

and sea salt and let it

melt together. By week two or three you can add in grated cheddar and also

parsley and sea salt.

If you have never cooked before and don't feel creative in the kitchen, it's a

good idea to invest

some money and time into buying some cookbooks and reading them - to get basic

ideas.

Boring food is boring. So don't make it boring.

Mara

>> When I read that others are surviving on eg four foods each day, I can't

imagine how you don't feel sick at the thought of the same eg steamed zucchini

over and over.

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>> Because I do feel sick and that makes me vulnerable to grabbing a food from a

later Stage than I am at.

>>

>> Any hints or tips appreciated:-)

>> IBS 15 months

>> SCD Day 8

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[Guest guest]

At 05:12 AM 6/27/2010, you wrote:

When I read that others are

surviving on eg four foods each day, I can't imagine how you don't feel

sick at the thought of the same eg steamed zucchini over and over.

Well, I survived on it because I felt so sick I didn't feel like

preparing anything else -- and my husband, bless him, had agreed to

eliminate everything non-SCD from the house except his bread for his

sandwiches. (He chooses to eat pretzelsd with his lunch at work, and I

only just discovered that he's been buying them, and then leaving them in

his car, not even bringing them in the house, before he takes them to

work because he knows how much I used to love pretzels.

What I've learned in the last nine years is that no food, however

scrumptious, is worth being sick for.

I can, and do, eat well. But when I'm unwell, I drop back to the lowest

common denominator, foods which I know my gut tolerates so I don't put

any further stress on the system while it recovers.

This doesn't mean that I'm not glad to add more variety back in once

things calm down!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Hi Newbie- a year ago when I felt so sick these kind people helped me, so the

least I can do is pass the favor on if I can.

Hang in there!

PJ

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> You guys are such good people - taking time to help others starting SCD. I

can't thank you enough for taking the time to reply to my beginner's questions.

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> Newbie

> IBS 15 months

> SCD Day 9! (with your help)

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[Guest guest]

You're absolutely right and I will keep in mind " boring food is boring food " . I

have had two good ideas to create a bit more interest for my foods this morning

- thanks to you all.

Cheers

AM :-)

IBS 15 months

SCD 9 days

[Guest guest]

I am also new to SCD and new to the list. I am 37 and have had IBS for almost 15

years, but it was pretty tolerable until after the birth of my second child a

few months ago, when it got a lot worse. Last week I did the SCD starter diet

but couldn't find good info in BTVC about exactly how to get off the starter

diet (maybe missed it?), so by the time I found this info on Pecanbread.com I

had already tried tomatoes w/ seeds and skin, as well as a few others things

(bananas, apple sauce, zucchini), so now I am back on the starter diet for a

couple days to see if that will help calm things down again. It wasn't a

terrible flare-up, just not as good as it had gotten on the starter diet!

One question: when I make the chicken soup I've been putting celery in for

cooking but taking it out before eating (except on the very first batch, which

was just carrots--but it tastes so much better w/ celery!). Is this okay to do

or do I need to make the soup with only carrots until I get to the stage where

celery is okay to eat?

I'm finding it *really* hard to be patient about adding new foods. Even though

the starter diet isn't terrible for me, I really miss the variety. I'm sure

everyone goes through this.

Thanks for listening,

Misha

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> This is not a complaint! but how do others deal with feeling that just

couldn't eat another ......any food they are having over and over again at the

start of the diet eg carrots or chicken soup.

>

> When I read that others are surviving on eg four foods each day, I can't

imagine how you don't feel sick at the thought of the same eg steamed zucchini

over and over.

>

> Because I do feel sick and that makes me vulnerable to grabbing a food from a

later Stage than I am at.

>

> Any hints or tips appreciated:-)

> IBS 15 months

> SCD Day 8

>

[Guest guest]

> I am also new to SCD and new to the list. I am 37 and have had IBS for almost

15 years, but it was pretty tolerable until after the birth of my second child a

few months ago, when it got a lot worse. Last week I did the SCD starter diet

but couldn't find good info in BTVC about exactly how to get off the starter

diet (maybe missed it?), so by the time I found this info on Pecanbread.com I

had already tried tomatoes w/ seeds and skin, as well as a few others things

(bananas, apple sauce, zucchini), so now I am back on the starter diet for a

couple days to see if that will help calm things down again. It wasn't a

terrible flare-up, just not as good as it had gotten on the starter diet!

>

> One question: when I make the chicken soup I've been putting celery in for

cooking but taking it out before eating (except on the very first batch, which

was just carrots--but it tastes so much better w/ celery!). Is this okay to do

or do I need to make the soup with only carrots until I get to the stage where

celery is okay to eat?

As long as there are no bad results, it's fine to do that. For many people,

this would not cause

any problems. For some, it might. So be careful.

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> I'm finding it *really* hard to be patient about adding new foods. Even though

the starter diet isn't terrible for me, I really miss the variety. I'm sure

everyone goes through this.

Yeah - it's really hard. But you'll get there sooner or later.

Good luck,

Mara

[Guest guest]

Hi Mara

It is so good for me to know that others are out there faced with the same

challenges of starting SCD.

My Chicken Soup was grainy after I put it through the food processor - it really

put me off. I was wondering if your soup came out more creamy?

Or to any good SCD cooks out there , I would appreciate any advice on how to

make my Intro Chicken Soup more palatable - at least smoother.

Cheers

Anne-Marie IBS 15 months

SCD Day 9

[Guest guest]

Did you blend the chicken too? I don't think you necessarily have to do that, I just puree the carrots and keep the chicken pieces whole. I've been making the soup for 2 months, and I just made my best batch yet. I put lots of sea salt, and also some parsley and sage I believe, maybe some oregano or rosemary I don't remember. But with the smoothness factor, I cook it down somewhat - by boiling it first with the top on and then turning it down to simmer. And then it becomes a little thicker, when you mix the carrots in because more of an equal carrots to broth ratio. Mine always tastes better when its more orange Not sure if the cooking it down makes the broth more concentrated and better tasting, or that you can taste more of the carrots, but this method

works best for me. If you can tolerate spices, I'd definitely experiment there as well. Good luck Oh, and I usually use 4-6 chicken legs in my soup. You can always take the chicken out and use it for something else if it cooks down a lot and you have too much chicken.EllenTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 9:57:57 PMSubject: Re: Re: SCD

- Newbie on limited foods

Hi Mara

It is so good for me to know that others are out there faced with the same challenges of starting SCD.

My Chicken Soup was grainy after I put it through the food processor - it really put me off. I was wondering if your soup came out more creamy?

Or to any good SCD cooks out there , I would appreciate any advice on how to make my Intro Chicken Soup more palatable - at least smoother.

Cheers

Anne-Marie IBS 15 months

SCD Day 9

[Guest guest]

My Chicken Soup was grainy after I put it through the food processor - it really put me off. I was wondering if your soup came out more creamy? Hi Anne-Marie! Are you pureeing the whole thing, including the chicken? If so, I would try only pureeing the veggies, and then adding the chicken chunks back in. If you've tried this and still don't like it, you could see how you do eating it un-pureed. You may not have a reaction at all, especially if your carrots (and other veggies if you're eating them) are cooked long enough.Or to any good SCD cooks out there , I would appreciate any advice on how to make my Intro Chicken Soup more palatable - at least smoother.I just had chicken soup tonight and really enjoyed it, though I'm not very limited in my food choices at the moment (yay!). I make mine with chicken, carrots, celery, onion, garlic, basil, parsley, and thyme. I also add a nice healthy chunk of butter to my bowl before dishing the hot soup into it. It really adds a nice richness =) If you can't tolerate all those veggies at the moment, you could try cooking the soup with them in there and then taking them out before eating, so you still get the flavor. You might have to make a little bag with cheesecloth to boil with the soup though, to keep the veggies contained. I've tried removing the celery and onion before, and even cut into large chunks, it was hard for me to get it all. You could do the same with the herbs, making a spice bag to boil with the soup, if you think you can't tolerate them.Hope this helps, and welcome to the group and to SCD! Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 15 mg 1x per day (trying to wean!!!!)

[Guest guest]

Now I know - don't puree the Chicken!!! - just the vegs - oh my goodness.

My dear husband said the soup was " good " the first day I made it and only

yesterday - Day 8 - admitted he had lied just to make me feel ok about what we

were eating - it was pretty yuck! But not any longer! Many thanks again and

again.

AM

IBS 15 months

SCD Day 9

[Guest guest]

At 07:05 PM 6/27/2010, you wrote:

I'm finding it *really* hard to

be patient about adding new foods. Even though the starter diet isn't

terrible for me, I really miss the variety. I'm sure everyone goes

through this.

Misha,

Did you do okay with the celery in the soup? If so, keep making the soup

that way.

I didn't tolerate carrots AT ALL, not for around 10 months or so, so I

made soup with celery and onion, which I was fine with. (Although I used

plain roasted meats, steamed zucchini, and soft boiled eggs for my intro,

because that's what I could stand.

The soup is great, and can be soothing. Properly made bone broth can also

have some fabulous nutrients in it. But if you don't like a food, you're

less likely to want to eat it, and then you won't get the nutrients you

might have gotten from something else. That's why, to this day, I don't

do Brussels sprouts or peas. I can tolerate them. But I don't like

them.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Because as soon as I ate something I didn't tolerate the pain was back and I

didn't like being in pain. I still indulge in peanut butter every once in a

while even though I know I might react to it. Lately, when I go to Whole Foods

to get my almond butter I'll sneak over to the bulk bin isle and put a tiny bit

of peanut butter and a shot of honey in one of the taste tester cups and eat

that. Actually, I've done that the last 4 or 5 times I've gone. It's just enough

to get through my craving. I always loved peanut butter and the other nut

butters just don't do it for me sometimes.

Just hang in there. If you truly want to be well from your diet, you can do it.

I was failing miserably on the diet until I followed it correctly. It was

amazing.

Misty Kimble

CD - no meds

SCD - Jan 2008

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> Any hints or tips appreciated:-)

> IBS 15 months

> SCD Day 8

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[Guest guest]

Hi Anne-Marie,

The chicken definitely will not puree as smoothly as the veggies.

I'd say just try it without. When I was starting SCD (which I did a

couple of months and then Intro) I used onions, celery, carrots, zucchini

and some herbs just fine. I only had to puree the few days on

Intro, the rest of the time before and after, the veggies were soft

enough that I didn't have any trouble. But some people do have to puree

for quite awhile. You'll just need to see what works for you. I

think the carrots and zucchini will probably puree the finest and some

people have trouble with the fiber in celery for awhile. As I say, try

it. Use plenty of seasoning, too. The broth doesn't have to always

be chicken, either.

It is so good for me to know that others are out there faced with the

same challenges of starting SCD.

My Chicken Soup was grainy after I put it through the food processor

- it really put me off. I was wondering if your soup came out more

creamy?

Or to any good SCD cooks out there , I would appreciate any advice on

how to make my Intro Chicken Soup more palatable - at least

smoother.

Cheers

Anne-Marie IBS 15 months

[Guest guest]

Many thanks again - your responses are helping me keep on track and stay

hopeful. Hope you have a happy day

AM

IBS 15 months

SCD day 10

[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,I'm not sure yet. I'm still not back to how good I was feeling when I initially started the intro diet, but it's only been a day or so. I just hope I don't have to stay on Intro too long this time. I think I overdid it initially (5 or 6 days on intro, when I think 3 would have been sufficient), and then I was overzealous about introducing new foods! I do love eating the chicken soup, and it felt very healing to me on the first round. And I " m making some beef broth right now. But how did you know it was carrots that were giving you trouble? That is what is so puzzling to me, there is actually no single food that I know for sure I can't tolerate. I haven't been able to isolate anything, and there are so many factors that seem to play a role: how much sleep I'm getting, how much exercise, how much my kids or work are stressing me out. I will try to be much more methodical about it this time, but it's hard to be slow about introducing new foods when you start to feel unwell (not in terms of digestion, but just generally) being on such a restricted diet for too many days. If I feel better tomorrow I will try adding cooked spinach.

mishaOn Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:

 

At 07:05 PM 6/27/2010, you wrote:

I'm finding it *really* hard to

be patient about adding new foods. Even though the starter diet isn't

terrible for me, I really miss the variety. I'm sure everyone goes

through this.

Misha,

Did you do okay with the celery in the soup? If so, keep making the soup

that way.

I didn't tolerate carrots AT ALL, not for around 10 months or so, so I

made soup with celery and onion, which I was fine with. (Although I used

plain roasted meats, steamed zucchini, and soft boiled eggs for my intro,

because that's what I could stand.

The soup is great, and can be soothing. Properly made bone broth can also

have some fabulous nutrients in it. But if you don't like a food, you're

less likely to want to eat it, and then you won't get the nutrients you

might have gotten from something else. That's why, to this day, I don't

do Brussels sprouts or peas. I can tolerate them. But I don't like

them.

—

Marilyn

    New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

    Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

    Darn Good SCD Cook

    No Human Children

    Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

    Babette the Foundling Beagle

       

[Guest guest]

At 07:08 PM 6/28/2010, you wrote:

I'm not sure yet. I'm still not

back to how good I was feeling when I initially started the intro diet,

but it's only been a day or so. I just hope I don't have to stay on Intro

too long this time. I think I overdid it initially (5 or 6 days on intro,

when I think 3 would have been sufficient), and then I was overzealous

about introducing new foods! I do love eating the chicken soup, and it

felt very healing to me on the first round. And I " m making some beef

broth right now. But how did you know it was carrots that were giving you

trouble? That is what is so puzzling to me, there is actually no single

food that I know for sure I can't tolerate. I haven't been able to

isolate anything, and there are so many factors that seem to play a role:

how much sleep I'm getting, how much exercise, how much my kids or work

are stressing me out. I will try to be much more methodical about it this

time, but it's hard to be slow about introducing new foods when you start

to feel unwell (not in terms of digestion, but just generally) being on

such a restricted diet for too many days. If I feel better tomorrow I

will try adding cooked spinach.

How did I know it was the carrots? Well, first of all, they tasted bad to

me. So I wasn't motivated to want to eat them, and in generally,

when something tastes bad, I do better not to eat it.

The other reason was that if I ate cooked carrots, I had bright orange

chunks in my soft, mushy stool -- they didn't digest at all. If I pureed

everything, I got bright orange liquid poo.

So, between not much liking carrots, and the results, I was motivated to

leave them out.

When I left out the carrots, things improved.

With all you have going on, I highly recommend keeping a food and event

diary -- it can help you pinpoint what you are tolerating and what you

aren't, and what stressors make things difficult.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

" The other reason was that if I ate cooked carrots, I had bright orange chunks

in my soft, mushy stool -- they didn't digest at all. If I pureed everything, I

got bright orange liquid poo " .

Exactly the same here. I liked them, but they came out looking pretty much the

same as when they came in. Spinach did that too, until I pureed it and made it

into a soufle. I can eat both now, but carrots and I will probably never be good

friends.

PJ

> >I'm not sure yet. I'm still not back to how good

> >I was feeling when I initially started the intro

> >diet, but it's only been a day or so. I just

> >hope I don't have to stay on Intro too long this

> >time. I think I overdid it initially (5 or 6

> >days on intro, when I think 3 would have been

> >sufficient), and then I was overzealous about

> >introducing new foods! I do love eating the

> >chicken soup, and it felt very healing to me on

> >the first round. And I " m making some beef broth

> >right now. But how did you know it was carrots

> >that were giving you trouble? That is what is so

> >puzzling to me, there is actually no single food

> >that I know for sure I can't tolerate. I haven't

> >been able to isolate anything, and there are so

> >many factors that seem to play a role: how much

> >sleep I'm getting, how much exercise, how much

> >my kids or work are stressing me out. I will try

> >to be much more methodical about it this time,

> >but it's hard to be slow about introducing new

> >foods when you start to feel unwell (not in

> >terms of digestion, but just generally) being on

> >such a restricted diet for too many days. If I

> >feel better tomorrow I will try adding cooked spinach.

>

> How did I know it was the carrots? Well, first of

> all, they tasted bad to me. So I wasn't

> motivated to want to eat them, and in generally,

> when something tastes bad, I do better not to eat it.

>

> The other reason was that if I ate cooked

> carrots, I had bright orange chunks in my soft,

> mushy stool -- they didn't digest at all. If I

> pureed everything, I got bright orange liquid poo.

>

> So, between not much liking carrots, and the

> results, I was motivated to leave them out.

>

> When I left out the carrots, things improved.

>

> With all you have going on, I highly recommend

> keeping a food and event diary -- it can help you

> pinpoint what you are tolerating and what you

> aren't, and what stressors make things difficult.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> Babette the Foundling Beagle

>

[Guest guest]

At 06:05 AM 6/29/2010, you wrote:

Exactly the same here. I liked

them, but they came out looking pretty much the same as when they came

in. Spinach did that too, until I pureed it and made it into a soufle. I

can eat both now, but carrots and I will probably never be good

friends.

Pre-SCD, the only way I would eat carrots was raw, with peanut butter on

them... and I really think it was more the taste of the peanut butter

than the carrots!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle