Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I'm wondering if Stoneyfield added in bifidus and that was the reason for the change from legal to illegal. Maybe someone can check this out in the supermarket. Other than that, if it didn't, Elaine doesn't indicate it is advanced. She says it is recommended highly. Mara > Mara posted some Q & A from the Healing Crow site the other day and I had posted this question in response but didn't get an answer. > > Thanks!!! > > So, is Stoneyfield plain yogurt with pectin OK? If so, should we consider Stoneyfield advanced if we do use it? Sometimes I can't find Danon for my starter because the supermarket only has the lowfat versions with illegals. > > Thanks, > > Misty Kimble > CD - no meds > SCD - Jan 2008 > >> Subject: >> >> Stonyfield Yogurt - Pectin >> Question: >> >> I started to use Stonyfield yogurt as a starter and then noticed it has pectin. Can I still use it? >> >> Elaine writes: >> >> We have had a lot of discussion on Stonyfield lately which you may have missed. Perhaps someone has saved it and can send it to you. But it is recommended highly even with the little pectin you will be using for a starter. The added pectin to jams and jellies is considerably more than what is in the little yogurt you will use as a starter. Welcome and good luck, Elaine > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 At 05:19 AM 7/26/2010, you wrote: So, is Stoneyfield plain yogurt with pectin OK? If so, should we consider Stoneyfield advanced if we do use it? Sometimes I can't find Danon for my starter because the supermarket only has the lowfat versions with illegals. No, it is not legal. Pectin is bad juju. Stoneyfield also puts bifidus in their yogurt which is SCD-illegal. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Marilyn - perhaps you didn't see the post from Elaine where she said it was not onlylegal but recommended. And that that amount of pectin was negligible and wouldbe consumed by the yogurt, as opposed to the pectin in jams, etc. Did she actually change her mind about pectin in yogurt at some point on the record?Or, was it only a question of the whole thing becoming moot because Stoneyfieldchanged the formulation to include bifidus? MaraAt 05:19 AM 7/26/2010, you wrote:So, is Stoneyfield plain yogurt with pectin OK? If so, should we consider Stoneyfield advanced if we do use it? Sometimes I can't find Danon for my starter because the supermarket only has the lowfat versions with illegals.No, it is not legal. Pectin is bad juju.Stoneyfield also puts bifidus in their yogurt which is SCD-illegal.— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I checked the website. It's a moot suject because regardless if Elaine okay'd the use of it with pectin, they now put bifidus in it. Since it said highly recommended by Elaine, I didn't think to check the site for the other strains of bacteria in it. OUR FAMILY RECIPE: CULTURED PASTEURIZED ORGANIC WHOLE MILK, PECTIN, VITAMIN D3. CONTAINS OUR EXCLUSIVE BLEND OF SIX LIVE ACTIVE CULTURES: S. THERMOPHILUS, L. BULGARICUS, L. ACIDOPHILUS, BIFIDUS, L. CASEI, AND L. RHAMNOSUS. Misty > > Did she actually change her mind about pectin in yogurt at some point on the record? Or, was it only a question of the whole thing becoming moot because Stoneyfield changed the formulation to include bifidus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 At 12:14 PM 7/26/2010, you wrote: Marilyn - perhaps you didn't see the post from Elaine where she said it was not only legal but recommended. And that that amount of pectin was negligible and would be consumed by the yogurt, as opposed to the pectin in jams, etc. Did she actually change her mind about pectin in yogurt at some point on the record? Or, was it only a question of the whole thing becoming moot because Stoneyfield changed the formulation to include bifidus? Apparently, the original post on this list about it didn't come through -- and it's not in my spam box, either. What was the date on the post? I don't see one on Healing Crow. All I can tell you is that by the time I started SCD in 2001, both pectin and bifidus were illegal, and Stonyfield was not recommended. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 At 12:14 PM 7/26/2010, you wrote:Marilyn - perhaps you didn't see the post from Elaine where she said it was not only legal but recommended. And that that amount of pectin was negligible and wouldbe consumed by the yogurt, as opposed to the pectin in jams, etc. Did she actually change her mind about pectin in yogurt at some point on the record?Or, was it only a question of the whole thing becoming moot because Stoneyfieldchanged the formulation to include bifidus? Apparently, the original post on this list about it didn't come through -- and it's not in my spam box, either.What was the date on the post? I don't see one on Healing Crow.All I can tell you is that by the time I started SCD in 2001, both pectin and bifidus were illegal, and Stonyfield was not recommended.http://www.healingcrow.com/scdwisdom/LWscd/lwscd_59.htmlSubject:Stonyfield Yogurt - Pectin Question:I started to use Stonyfield yogurt as a starter and then noticed it has pectin. Can I still use it? Elaine writes:We have had a lot of discussion on Stonyfield lately which you may have missed. Perhaps someone has saved it and can send it to you. But it is recommended highly even with the little pectin you will be using for a starter. The added pectin to jams and jellies is considerably more than what is in the little yogurt you will use as a starter. Welcome and good luck, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 This is something that confuses me. Elaine approved certain things that have little bits of illegals in them (ie. this yogurt/pectin, salt/dextrose, bacon/sugar, some supplements at PB/gum & rice bran). Are all of these so minute that it makes no impact on the diet, or do they mess with the whole " fanatical adherence " and sabotage your healing? I really hope the former, because then maybe the illegals in my meds are so minute that they don't really matter. OT - My bird's gym is right next to my recliner/end table. I just went to drink from my glass of water, and found a chunk of almond shell floating on top. Makes me wonder what else (cracker crumbs!?!?) she has been flinging in there without my knowledge. Blech! Now that I think about it, I let her have a few bites of my strawberry yesterday, not too long after she had eaten one of my dad's corn chips. Double blech! Birdie backwash >:| Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > Mara posted some Q & A from the Healing Crow site the other day and I had posted this question in response but didn't get an answer. > > Thanks!!! > > So, is Stoneyfield plain yogurt with pectin OK? If so, should we consider Stoneyfield advanced if we do use it? Sometimes I can't find Danon for my starter because the supermarket only has the lowfat versions with illegals. > > Thanks, > > Misty Kimble > CD - no meds > SCD - Jan 2008 > > > Subject: > > > > Stonyfield Yogurt - Pectin > > Question: > > > > I started to use Stonyfield yogurt as a starter and then noticed it has pectin. Can I still use it? > > > > Elaine writes: > > > > We have had a lot of discussion on Stonyfield lately which you may have missed. Perhaps someone has saved it and can send it to you. But it is recommended highly even with the little pectin you will be using for a starter. The added pectin to jams and jellies is considerably more than what is in the little yogurt you will use as a starter. Welcome and good luck, Elaine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 At 06:03 PM 7/26/2010, you wrote: This is something that confuses me. Elaine approved certain things that have little bits of illegals in them (ie. this yogurt/pectin, salt/dextrose, bacon/sugar, some supplements at PB/gum & rice bran). Are all of these so minute that it makes no impact on the diet, or do they mess with the whole " fanatical adherence " and sabotage your healing? I really hope the former, because then maybe the illegals in my meds are so minute that they don't really matter. Elaine was a pragmatist. In the case of the gum in a liquid vitamin, she was advised by the manufacturer that they had to have some kind of thickener to keep the vitamins and minerals in an even suspension. She chose to put that under " necessary medicine. " Same thing with the rice bran -- but when the company brought out a product which used rice bran oil instead of bran, the rice bran containing product was removed from the list, and the one with rice bran oil was permitted, The dextrose in iodized salt is there to prevent the iodide from sublimating (going away). Very few of us these days have access to fresh shellfish and so forth to get the right amount of iodine, which we need for our thyroids to function properly. So rather than removing that source which could cause worse ailment Just look at how many people who are on low sodium diets have thyroid issues these days! (I've added iodine drops to my regimen because too much salt exacerbates the lymphedema from my cancer surgery.) I must use a supplement which is not SCD-legal. It has slowed my healing, but my alternative is worse. In this instance, it is necessary to balance the pros and the cons. When I had my cancer surgery, I completely forgot to check into legal pain-killers, and had to cope with all the fillers. The lactose combined with the motrin after I was off the narcotic pain killers was a doozey. I do not recommend trying to bolt for the bathroom when you have a 24 " slice across your gut. I think that it can be a cumulative issue. If one product has a little illegal in it, and another product has a little illegal in it and a third, fourth, and fifth product has a little illegal in it, each individual item may not contain enough illegal to be an issue, but totalled, they may add up to enough to provide the bad bacteria a smorgasbord. You have to have your meds, and getting them compounded isn't an option at this time. Therefore, what I would do is what I've had to do with my supplement -- stay extra legal if it is within your situation to do so. And -- don't come unglued about your meds. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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