Re: Why no canned tomatoes?

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> Does anyone know the reasoning behind canned tomatoes being illegal? The ones

I have are made by Muir Glen (organic) and only have tomatoes, tomato juice,

naturally derived citric acid and calcium chloride. Is it because there could

be some sugar in the tomato juice?

those are good - the whole ones. also cento whole tomatoes.

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> Also, even though I know canned pumpkin is illegal, I would still like to know

the reasoning. The brand I have says all it contains is certified organic

pumpkin. If I got the manufacturer to send me a letter on their letterhead that

stated nothing else was in the canned pumpkin, would that suffice?

yes.

Mara

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And please share the letter with the group.

Misty

> > Also, even though I know canned pumpkin is illegal, I would still like to

know the reasoning. The brand I have says all it contains is certified organic

pumpkin. If I got the manufacturer to send me a letter on their letterhead that

stated nothing else was in the canned pumpkin, would that suffice?

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Yes, I definitely will! I just emailed them this morning. They also have canned butternut squash! Here's their web site:http://www.farmersmarketfoods.com/products/product_detail.php?id=1kt--- In BTVC-SCD , "Misty" wrote:>> And please share the letter with the group. > > Misty> > > > > Also, even though I know canned pumpkin is illegal, I would still like to know the reasoning. The brand I have says all it contains is certified organic pumpkin. If I got the manufacturer to send me a letter on their letterhead that stated nothing else was in the canned pumpkin, would that suffice?>

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OK, so what about diced tomatoes by the same company that has the same ingredients? Was Elaine implying that the tomato paste, puree and sauce would have sugar added?kt> > > > > > > Does anyone know the reasoning behind canned tomatoes being illegal? The ones I have are made by Muir Glen (organic) and only have tomatoes, tomato juice, naturally derived citric acid and calcium chloride. Is it because there could be some sugar in the tomato juice?> > those are good - the whole ones. also cento whole tomatoes. > > > > > > Also, even though I know canned pumpkin is illegal, I would still like to know the reasoning. The brand I have says all it contains is certified organic pumpkin. If I got the manufacturer to send me a letter on their letterhead that stated nothing else was in the canned pumpkin, would that suffice?> > yes.> > Mara>

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Wow - that's a lot of variables! Shoot. Well, that's also too bad that they are being bought by GF. I visited their web site and they have some interesting videos if anyone is interested: http://www.muirglen.com/about.aspx Good thing I planted a bunch of tomatoes this year. Guess I'll have to get into canning some now.Thanks for the detailed reply! Much appreciated.kt>> KT> > > > The problem with any canned items, or any other commercial product for that> matter, is that the labels don't always reveal every ingredient used in> processing, and there is always a risk of cross-contamination in the> manufacturing and processing. So canned items are always considered a "use> at your own risk."> > > > Manufacturers are not required to list ingredients used as processing aids,> and quite often this can be something like cornstarch. Manufacturers also> aren't obliged to list the ingredients used in processing the individual> components they used. Many manufacturers purchase a portion of the> ingredients they use from other sources, and aren't required to inquire> into, or reveal the information, on their product. For example, the company> that canned the tomatoes might have purchased the blanched and peeled> tomatoes from another company that might have used an oil with "natural> flavorings" or perhaps an antibacterial solution that contains an illegal> ingredient for SCD folks. The canning manufacturer doesn't mention this, if> they even ask about all ingredients used in the product they purchase to> can. > > > > Then there is the very real risk of cross-contamination. The plant that> canned a batch of tomatoes did so immediately after canning peaches that> included a heavy syrup (high fructose corn syrup) and the processing> equipment wasn't thoroughly and completely cleaned. > > > > Then the manufacturers often change their formulas/recipes frequently, and> without warning. And they change ownership, which usually involves changing> sources of ingredients used in the products.> > > > All possibilities. It is so much safer to make your own cooked pumpkin, or> tomatoes, or juice.. You can control all the ingredients and the> environment. Then you can just focus on your digestion's reaction to the> food and not have to consider all the extra factors that come with using a> commercial product.> > > > I also heard recently that Muir Glen (or is it Glen Muir?) was sold to> General Foods. Which means these products are even more risky. > > > > Kim M.> > SCD 6 years> > Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years> > neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Does anyone know the reasoning behind canned tomatoes being illegal? > The ones I have are made by Muir Glen (organic) and only have tomatoes,> tomato juice, naturally derived citric acid and calcium chloride. Is it> because there could be some sugar in the tomato juice?> Also, even though I know canned pumpkin is illegal, I would still like> to know the reasoning. The brand I have says all it contains is> certified organic pumpkin. If I got the manufacturer to send me a> letter on their letterhead that stated nothing else was in the canned> pumpkin, would that suffice?> Thanks,> kt>

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if you get a letter, can you put it in the Files?

Stacey

--- > > If I got the manufacturer to send me a letter on their letterhead that

stated nothing else was in the canned pumpkin, would that suffice?

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At 07:06 PM 7/23/2010, you wrote:

Does anyone know the reasoning

behind canned tomatoes being illegal? The ones I have are made by

Muir Glen (organic) and only have tomatoes, tomato juice, naturally

derived citric acid and calcium chloride. Is it because there could

be some sugar in the tomato juice?

Lucy, of Lucy's Kitchen Shop, says that the WHOLE PEELED Muir Glen

tomatoes are SCD legal, but none of the other Muir Glen products

are.

Dr. Haas specifically forbade commercial canned tomato products because

they are so likely to have hidden sugar, starch, or HFCS in them. (Well,

HFCS wasn't a significant issue in his day as it is now, but the

reasoning holds.)

Also, even though I know canned

pumpkin is illegal, I would still like to know the reasoning. The

brand I have says all it contains is certified organic pumpkin. If

I got the manufacturer to send me a letter on their letterhead that

stated nothing else was in the canned pumpkin, would that

suffice?

The problem with commercially processed foods is that the manufacturers

are not really required to declare everything that is in the product.

There are all sorts of loopholes. They don't, for instance, have to

declare " processing aids " which could be sugar or starch or

lactose or any number of illegals.

Not only that, but if they change the product, they don't have to change

the labels until they run out of the old product labels.

IF you obtain a letter from the manufacturer, on their letterhead, which

states that there are no other ingredients or processing aids in the

pumpkin, you can send me a scan of it (or send me the letter or a

photocopy of the letter) and I will scan it and place it in our

library.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

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> if you get a letter, can you put it in the Files?

> Stacey

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> --- > > If I got the manufacturer to send me a letter on their letterhead that

stated nothing else was in the canned pumpkin, would that suffice?

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Sorry - I hit the send too soon!Anyway, sure, I'll add it to the files if they send me one.kt>> if you get a letter, can you put it in the Files?> Stacey> > --- > > If I got the manufacturer to send me a letter on their letterhead that stated nothing else was in the canned pumpkin, would that suffice?>

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I will definitely share the letter, if they send it!kt> > >Does anyone know the reasoning behind canned > >tomatoes being illegal? The ones I have are > >made by Muir Glen (organic) and only have > >tomatoes, tomato juice, naturally derived citric > >acid and calcium chloride. Is it because there > >could be some sugar in the tomato juice?> > Lucy, of Lucy's Kitchen Shop, says that the WHOLE > PEELED Muir Glen tomatoes are SCD legal, but none > of the other Muir Glen products are.> > Dr. Haas specifically forbade commercial canned > tomato products because they are so likely to > have hidden sugar, starch, or HFCS in them. > (Well, HFCS wasn't a significant issue in his day > as it is now, but the reasoning holds.)> > >Also, even though I know canned pumpkin is > >illegal, I would still like to know the > >reasoning. The brand I have says all it > >contains is certified organic pumpkin. If I got > >the manufacturer to send me a letter on their > >letterhead that stated nothing else was in the > >canned pumpkin, would that suffice?> > The problem with commercially processed foods is > that the manufacturers are not really required to > declare everything that is in the product. There > are all sorts of loopholes. They don't, for > instance, have to declare "processing aids" which > could be sugar or starch or lactose or any number of illegals.> > Not only that, but if they change the product, > they don't have to change the labels until they > run out of the old product labels.> > IF you obtain a letter from the manufacturer, on > their letterhead, which states that there are no > other ingredients or processing aids in the > pumpkin, you can send me a scan of it (or send me > the letter or a photocopy of the letter) and I > will scan it and place it in our library.> > > > > — Marilyn> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001> Darn Good SCD Cook> No Human Children> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund> Babette the Foundling Beagle>

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This reminded me that Larabars are now owned by General Mills, so that's another

product SCDers need to keep an eye an on for potential illegals.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

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> Wow - that's a lot of variables! Shoot. Well, that's also too bad that

> they are being bought by GF. I visited their web site and they have

> some interesting videos if anyone is interested:

> http://www.muirglen.com/about.aspx Good thing I planted a bunch of

> tomatoes this year. Guess I'll have to get into canning some now.

> Thanks for the detailed reply! Much appreciated.

> kt