Re: Allow me to introduce myself!

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Mira! I lived in London for 7 years so know how

wonderful the NHS can be (and how bad it can be:-)). This group has

been really good in helping me get prepared for the surgery without

freaking out too much. I'm sure it will do the same for you. It's

always nice to know that there are other people going through the

same thing as you.

Take care,

Sara

> Hello all,

>

> My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

>

> I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but finally,

> my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so I

> go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on 28th

> July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> culminating in some jaw surgery and then recovering

> for some time I imagine!

>

> Here in England, because the state of my jaw affects

> my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> headaches, the operation will be carried out on the

> NHS.

>

> I'm very very scared, but have been reading through

> the groups emails and archives and it helps that all

> you guys are going through the same thing.

>

> Nice to meet you all!!

>

> Mira xxx

[Guest guest]

Hi Mira!

I live in London too... Have had braces for a couple of years, and

finally am due to have surgery at the end of August. I don't write

here an awful lot, but I find reading other peoples experiences very

helpful in knowing what to expect. At first it's scary, but once you

learn more about it and talk to orthodontist, surgeon and fellow

patients it becomes less frightening, especially as you have time to

get used to the idea while waiting for the braces to do their work.

I'm actually more excited than scared now!

Good luck with your appointments,

Suzy

x

> > Hello all,

> >

> > My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

> >

> > I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but finally,

> > my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so I

> > go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on 28th

> > July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> > culminating in some jaw surgery and then recovering

> > for some time I imagine!

> >

> > Here in England, because the state of my jaw affects

> > my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> > headaches, the operation will be carried out on the

> > NHS.

> >

> > I'm very very scared, but have been reading through

> > the groups emails and archives and it helps that all

> > you guys are going through the same thing.

> >

> > Nice to meet you all!!

> >

> > Mira xxx

[Guest guest]

Wow,

Suzy, I work at the Beeb too..what a crazy

coincidence!

Mira

--- Suzy wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi Mira!

I live in London too... Have had braces for a couple

of years, and

finally am due to have surgery at the end of August. I

don't write

here an awful lot, but I find reading other peoples

experiences very

helpful in knowing what to expect. At first it's

scary, but once you

learn more about it and talk to orthodontist, surgeon

and fellow

patients it becomes less frightening, especially as

you have time to

get used to the idea while waiting for the braces to

do their work.

I'm actually more excited than scared now!

Good luck with your appointments,

Suzy

x

> > Hello all,

> >

> > My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

> >

> > I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but

finally,

> > my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so

I

> > go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on

28th

> > July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> > culminating in some jaw surgery and then

recovering

> > for some time I imagine!

> >

> > Here in England, because the state of my jaw

affects

> > my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> > headaches, the operation will be carried out on

the

> > NHS.

> >

> > I'm very very scared, but have been reading

through

> > the groups emails and archives and it helps that

all

> > you guys are going through the same thing.

> >

> > Nice to meet you all!!

> >

> > Mira xxx

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[Guest guest]

Mira,

Welcome! Forgive my ignorance but ... what is an NHS?

Best of luck as you begin your journey,

Carol

> Hello all,

>

> My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

>

> I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but finally,

> my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so I

> go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on 28th

> July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> culminating in some jaw surgery and then recovering

> for some time I imagine!

>

> Here in England, because the state of my jaw affects

> my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> headaches, the operation will be carried out on the

> NHS.

>

> I'm very very scared, but have been reading through

> the groups emails and archives and it helps that all

> you guys are going through the same thing.

>

> Nice to meet you all!!

>

> Mira xxx

[Guest guest]

The NHS is our famed..ahem...National Health Service.

Everyone in Britain receives free treatment on the NHS

and we all contribute to it out of our pay packets in

the form of a National Insurance contribution.

Those of us who are rich can also elect to get private

health care too, this is an optional extra.

--- miss_redagain2005 <no_reply >

wrote:

---------------------------------

Mira,

Welcome! Forgive my ignorance but ... what is an NHS?

Best of luck as you begin your journey,

Carol

> Hello all,

>

> My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

>

> I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but finally,

> my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so I

> go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on 28th

> July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> culminating in some jaw surgery and then recovering

> for some time I imagine!

>

> Here in England, because the state of my jaw affects

> my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> headaches, the operation will be carried out on the

> NHS.

>

> I'm very very scared, but have been reading through

> the groups emails and archives and it helps that all

> you guys are going through the same thing.

>

> Nice to meet you all!!

>

> Mira xxx

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group, Mira - Sounds like you and I will be going thru

all this together. I've had my Orthodontic Consult and work-up, and

waiting for the discussion with the Ortho about his treatment plan,

which will be in 3 weeks. I made my appointment with my Oral Surgeon

for July 18, for my Orthognathic Surgery consult; his receptionist

put me on the " cancellation list " , just in case there is an earlier

opening so they can get me right in. I had originally hoped to be in

braces by mid-July, so we'll see. I'm 47 and I have an underbite. My

Ortho says I'll be in braces pre-operatively for twelve months and

post-operatively for up to six months. My Surgeon says I will

definitely have a BSSO (set back the jaw) and possibly a LeFort I

Maxillary Osteotomy.// Again, welcome!! --- Diane (Idaho)

> Hello all,

>

> My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

>

> I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but finally,

> my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so I

> go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on 28th

> July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> culminating in some jaw surgery and then recovering

> for some time I imagine!

>

> Here in England, because the state of my jaw affects

> my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> headaches, the operation will be carried out on the

> NHS.

>

> I'm very very scared, but have been reading through

> the groups emails and archives and it helps that all

> you guys are going through the same thing.

>

> Nice to meet you all!!

>

> Mira xxx

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the welcome Diane!

We'll have to spot each other.

--- dmd13cyto wrote:

---------------------------------

Welcome to the group, Mira - Sounds like you and I

will be going thru

all this together. I've had my Orthodontic Consult and

work-up, and

waiting for the discussion with the Ortho about his

treatment plan,

which will be in 3 weeks. I made my appointment with

my Oral Surgeon

for July 18, for my Orthognathic Surgery consult; his

receptionist

put me on the " cancellation list " , just in case there

is an earlier

opening so they can get me right in. I had originally

hoped to be in

braces by mid-July, so we'll see. I'm 47 and I have an

underbite. My

Ortho says I'll be in braces pre-operatively for

twelve months and

post-operatively for up to six months. My Surgeon says

I will

definitely have a BSSO (set back the jaw) and possibly

a LeFort I

Maxillary Osteotomy.// Again, welcome!! --- Diane

(Idaho)

> Hello all,

>

> My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

>

> I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but finally,

> my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so I

> go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on 28th

> July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> culminating in some jaw surgery and then recovering

> for some time I imagine!

>

> Here in England, because the state of my jaw affects

> my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> headaches, the operation will be carried out on the

> NHS.

>

> I'm very very scared, but have been reading through

> the groups emails and archives and it helps that all

> you guys are going through the same thing.

>

> Nice to meet you all!!

>

> Mira xxx

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi there Mira, welcome to the group! I try to keep up with all the

topics but its moves so fast, its a full time job, so i mainly read

and learn! i am too in the UK and having upper/lower/genio done

by the NHS (having waited for 5 years). I have been in braces for

16 months and am hopfully will be ready for surgery, they will let

me know today week when i go back. What will you be having done,

and whereabouts in the uk are you being treated?

boris.

> > Hello all,

> >

> > My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

> >

> > I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but finally,

> > my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so I

> > go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on 28th

> > July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> > culminating in some jaw surgery and then recovering

> > for some time I imagine!

> >

> > Here in England, because the state of my jaw affects

> > my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> > headaches, the operation will be carried out on the

> > NHS.

> >

> > I'm very very scared, but have been reading through

> > the groups emails and archives and it helps that all

> > you guys are going through the same thing.

> >

> > Nice to meet you all!!

> >

> > Mira xxx

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Boris!

What is genio? I hope all they will need to do is my

lower jaw, but I guess I will find this out at my

appointment in July.

I am being treated at the Royal Berks Hospital in

Reading. I went there some years back, but because my

jaw was not *that* badly out of shape, they said I

would be OK without surgery, and also, there is no

guarantee that AFTER surgery my jaw would be fixed

forever, and it might slip again!

Roll on a few years and now I *need* the surgery!

The only part I am dreading (and this sounds SO

shallow) is wearing braces for 2 years I had to

wear them as a teen and it just seems so harsh that i

must wear them again now! I'm nearly 30 and none of my

peers wear braces. I wish they could invent invisible

ones!

Mira xxx

--- borislittlesal <no_reply > wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi there Mira, welcome to the group! I try to keep up

with all the

topics but its moves so fast, its a full time job, so

i mainly read

and learn! i am too in the UK and having

upper/lower/genio done

by the NHS (having waited for 5 years). I have been

in braces for

16 months and am hopfully will be ready for surgery,

they will let

me know today week when i go back. What will you be

having done,

and whereabouts in the uk are you being treated?

boris.

> > Hello all,

> >

> > My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

> >

> > I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but

finally,

> > my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so

I

> > go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on

28th

> > July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> > culminating in some jaw surgery and then

recovering

> > for some time I imagine!

> >

> > Here in England, because the state of my jaw

affects

> > my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> > headaches, the operation will be carried out on

the

> > NHS.

> >

> > I'm very very scared, but have been reading

through

> > the groups emails and archives and it helps that

all

> > you guys are going through the same thing.

> >

> > Nice to meet you all!!

> >

> > Mira xxx

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

hey Mira,

you know its not so bad having braces, i too wore braces for 7 years

when i was younger and finding myself with them again (i am now 33)

really isn't as bad as i expected. For the first couple of months

when going out i really made my eyes up with lots of make-up and

didn't bother with lipstick as i it didn't draw attention to my

mouth at first (one advantage of being a woman!) but to be honest i

was far more aware of the braces then my friends were. Funny thing

I have now are my friends questioning if they should have their

teeth done as mine are so straight!

Really wear them with pride and smile as you would normally, i have

found that they are good conversation topics too and men seem

intruged!! My partner says they look like little jewels twickling

and didn't find them off putting what so ever. It will take you a

little while to get used to them as is natural, but just think of

the longer term goal and 2 years won't seem so long to get there.

Genio is the chin area, i am not exactly sure what they are going to

do to my chin as i saw the surgeon 4yrs ago and all was very brief

(one of the disadvantages with going NHS, you dont get quite the

individual care as with private)but they took me on as a case that

had to have it done ....should have had it when i was 17 but it was

never offered.

Good luck for july and let me know how you get on!

> > > Hello all,

> > >

> > > My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

> > >

> > > I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but

> finally,

> > > my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so

> I

> > > go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on

> 28th

> > > July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> > > culminating in some jaw surgery and then

> recovering

> > > for some time I imagine!

> > >

> > > Here in England, because the state of my jaw

> affects

> > > my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> > > headaches, the operation will be carried out on

> the

> > > NHS.

> > >

> > > I'm very very scared, but have been reading

> through

> > > the groups emails and archives and it helps that

> all

> > > you guys are going through the same thing.

> > >

> > > Nice to meet you all!!

> > >

> > > Mira xxx

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

[Guest guest]

Mira,

Thanks very much. I like when I learn something new every day.

Carol

> > Hello all,

> >

> > My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

> >

> > I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but finally,

> > my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so I

> > go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on 28th

> > July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> > culminating in some jaw surgery and then recovering

> > for some time I imagine!

> >

> > Here in England, because the state of my jaw affects

> > my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> > headaches, the operation will be carried out on the

> > NHS.

> >

> > I'm very very scared, but have been reading through

> > the groups emails and archives and it helps that all

> > you guys are going through the same thing.

> >

> > Nice to meet you all!!

> >

> > Mira xxx

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mira

Nice to hear from another new person in the UK. I'm in Guildford,

being treated at the Royal Surrey County Hospital and nowhere near

even getting braces yet. I go to see my orthodontist for the first

time next Friday so finally get to know a bit more about this side of

the surgery. I'm seeing a fantastic surgeon who makes me feel

totally at ease but the doubts are still there, particularly when the

appointments roll round so slowly....too much time to think! The NHS

is a painfully slow process!

I will be having my wisdom teeth out before any orthodontic work can

start and am on the NHS waiting list for this hopefully happening

later in the summer. I'm doing the orthodontics privately though as

the NHS waiting list for this is 18 months! Love to hear how you get

on in July.

Suzan

> Hello all,

>

> My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

>

> I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but finally,

> my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so I

> go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on 28th

> July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> culminating in some jaw surgery and then recovering

> for some time I imagine!

>

> Here in England, because the state of my jaw affects

> my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> headaches, the operation will be carried out on the

> NHS.

>

> I'm very very scared, but have been reading through

> the groups emails and archives and it helps that all

> you guys are going through the same thing.

>

> Nice to meet you all!!

>

> Mira xxx

[Guest guest]

Hi again Mira

Just wanted to add that the part I was most dreading too was braces -

the surgery seemed the easy part! In fact the reason I never had it

done in the UK was that my orthodontist told me I couldn't have

ceramic (clear) braces with the surgery and I just couldn't face

having metal ones when I already hated my mouth so much. But I came

over to the US and even though my resident orthodontists were a

little unwilling to use them the chief resident said it was fine and

so I just have them on my top front 6 teeth - which is all anyone

can see anyway. You can still see them and I am still very self

concious about smiling but I do feel a lot better. I suggest pushing

your orthodontist for this option - and never be afraid to get a

second opinion. The cost thing may be part of it on the NHS as

ceramics are more expensive - although really not by much! Anyway,

whatever ends up happening believe me you'll get used to it.

The first day I had them put on I just came home and and sat alone

crying all day! The first week was really horrible - I just felt

like I had all this cr*p in my mouth! I couldn't ever see myself

getting used to it but just 3 months later and its fine! I am still

concious of it, it still makes eating some things difficult/awkward,

I still get fed up of them, but overall I really don't care anymore!

I'm just so happy to be having this done at long last (i'm 27) - so

good luck and let us know how it goes!

Jo

> > > > Hello all,

> > > >

> > > > My name's Mira and I live in London, England.

> > > >

> > > > I've been avoiding surgery for a while, but

> > finally,

> > > > my teeth have slipped over too far for comfort, so

> > I

> > > > go to my first surgeon/orthadontist meeting on

> > 28th

> > > > July. From then I'll have braces for a while,

> > > > culminating in some jaw surgery and then

> > recovering

> > > > for some time I imagine!

> > > >

> > > > Here in England, because the state of my jaw

> > affects

> > > > my eating and sleeping and gives me horrible

> > > > headaches, the operation will be carried out on

> > the

> > > > NHS.

> > > >

> > > > I'm very very scared, but have been reading

> > through

> > > > the groups emails and archives and it helps that

> > all

> > > > you guys are going through the same thing.

> > > >

> > > > Nice to meet you all!!

> > > >

> > > > Mira xxx

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > >