Re: Re: yogurt consumption (was Re: food sensitivities -- was Does lowering your carbs also lower your energy?)

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> Don't eat over 3c. of dripped yogurt per day. Thank you!! do you know how this was established? what happens if we go over? and, how do I covert the 3c. into a quantity for the non-dripped yogurt I eat?

Thanks a lot!

 

Don't eat over 3c. of dripped yogurt per day. 

 

Do it like a meal plan.  Write out each day--Monday is beef, red vegetables, Tuesday is poultry night, chicken or turkey and green vegetables, friday is fish with orange vegetables, etc.  You can eat legal cheese, dccc, juice diluted, watch the almond/nut butter intake for the first six months.

 

I did it in four day rotation with three off--leftover time or cooking new I guess.  Decide what you would eat together like beef and red bell peppers or tomato sauce so beef-red.  Fish, broiled with yellow squash or yellow bell peppers or banana pancakes later so fish-yellow.  Chicken/turkey is poultry day--green.  That leaves broccoli, green beans, green grapes, salad--does that make any sense?

 

Probably not lol.  Kim M. is really good at this but it's kind of like if I had a huge family to shop/cook for, I'd have to map it out or be lost.  So since I'm extremely limited in funds and what I can eat then it seemed to make sense to color code it kind of.  It may not work for anyone else.  I left spices open to change.  Butter, dccc, eggs, gelatin open.  I did also add what citrus for those days because I couldn't tolerate it and was trying to work it in.  So lemon, lime, pineapple, orange, tangerine--but I really never got to the point of working it in.  I would use them with whatever sounded good.  Like chicken in pineapple juice, lime or orange and beef, fish and lemon, etc.

 

Anyway, hope this doesn't confuse you more.

 

Debbie 41 cd

 

Hey,I've been wondering for awhile if anyone had sorted out a desired consumption rate for yogurt for us, at least in the intro stages. I'm very concerned about getting enough of it, and am trying my best to tackle my dysbiosis.

As far as I know, the principles of rotating foods applies to anything you eat, not just certain types of foods.As far as something like yogurt, especially in the earliest stages, being used somewhat medicinally to treat dysbiosis, I would seriously consider making an exception at least temporarily on food rotation. And when diet is seriously restricted, when there is also trouble getting certain nutrition like proper fats or sufficient complex carbohydrate or even sufficient protein, I also see the need to be aware that exception might need to be made and making proper rotation may be very hard if at all possible.

Truly, for SCDers it's hard! personally, i'm really bad at it. I should work on it! but as someone else said, I'm trying to put out other fires first.cheese can be very similar, but I think any addition of variation would at least be fractionally beneficial, as long as the logisitical or nutritional complications thereof do not detract enough to cancel out any benefit you might receive.

Maybe Kim or someone else can answer your questions better. Especially in terms of food sensitivity, I really don't know much about when food sensitivities develop.Best!!

 

Boy, does my family ever do it wrong! We have the same supper for at least 2 nights in a row, sometimes 3 (like when there is an exceptionally large salmon). And my non-SCD mom and dad have the exact same breakfast and lunch day after day (although my mom definitely has the color of the rainbow in her lunchtime salads).

What about yogurt? I eat a fair amount day after day. Is that typically okay, or not? If you vary the type of cheese, does that count as variety, or is all cheese basically the same thing? What about nuts? I'm allergic to all but almond (technically allergic to that too, but it doesn't bother me). I limit it (approximately 2 tbsps total per day), but is it bad to have something like that day in and day out? And for that matter, eggs? I have an almond butter pancake and an almond butter brownie everyday, each containing almond butter, egg, and honey. Or is it mainly fruit, veggies, and meat that you need to rotate?

HollyCrohn'sSCD 12/01/08

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> The idea is not to eat the same thing for three days, but to eat something> different every day and at every meal within the day, and hopefully not> repeat the same food for several days. The food rotation principles say not

> to repeat the same food for three days; for example, eating carrots at one> meal and then not eating carrots again for 3 days. This idea is based on the> fact that it takes food 2 to 3 days to transit our digestive tracts.

> > > > Some people have food sensitivities with vegetables more than protein,> others have sensitivities to fruits. > > > > I think you can heal just as well without becoming obsessive about food

> rotation. I do believe that more variety is better overall, but it doesn't> help to worry about it. I do try to eat something different every day, at> least with most of my vegetables, but I spend my energy on ensuring that I

> include all the colors of foods into my week's worth of meals.> > > > You'll know if you have food sensitivities! Most of the reactions are> immune, meaning hives, respiratory distress, aching joint, headaches.

> Sometimes sensitivities can trigger digestive symptoms. The technical> meaning to food sensitivity indicates an immune system response. Digestive> symptoms are somewhat different, but we often include them in with the same

> term.> > > > Kim M.> > SCD 6 years> > Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years> > neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

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At 01:24 AM 6/14/2010, you wrote:

Thank you!! do you know how this

was established? what happens if we go over? and, how do I covert the 3c.

into a quantity for the non-dripped yogurt I eat?

Elaine established this when asked.

Typically, when I'm dripping a half gallon of yogurt, I get about a quart

of liquid off it, giving me a quart of yogurt. So, I would assume no more

than 6 cups of undripped yogurt... but I think that would be a bit much

of one food no matter how great the probiotics are for you.

Personally, I think I'd stick with 3 cups, dripped or undripped.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

I believe Elaine actually said 3 cups dripped or undripped is the maximum. I personally limit to 2 cups, but I'm quite small so I tend to go for kids portions..http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/yoghurt_amount.htm

KatOn Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:

 

At 01:24 AM 6/14/2010, you wrote:

Thank you!! do you know how this

was established? what happens if we go over? and, how do I covert the 3c.

into a quantity for the non-dripped yogurt I eat?

Elaine established this when asked.

Typically, when I'm dripping a half gallon of yogurt, I get about a quart

of liquid off it, giving me a quart of yogurt. So, I would assume no more

than 6 cups of undripped yogurt... but I think that would be a bit much

of one food no matter how great the probiotics are for you.

Personally, I think I'd stick with 3 cups, dripped or undripped.

—

Marilyn

    New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

    Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

    Darn Good SCD Cook

    No Human Children

    Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

    Babette the Foundling Beagle

       

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Thanks guys!_Great_ article Kat!! Thanks!

 

I believe Elaine actually said 3 cups dripped or undripped is the maximum. I personally limit to 2 cups, but I'm quite small so I tend to go for kids portions..http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/yoghurt_amount.htm

KatOn Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:

 

At 01:24 AM 6/14/2010, you wrote:

Thank you!! do you know how this

was established? what happens if we go over? and, how do I covert the 3c.

into a quantity for the non-dripped yogurt I eat?

Elaine established this when asked.

Typically, when I'm dripping a half gallon of yogurt, I get about a quart

of liquid off it, giving me a quart of yogurt. So, I would assume no more

than 6 cups of undripped yogurt... but I think that would be a bit much

of one food no matter how great the probiotics are for you.

Personally, I think I'd stick with 3 cups, dripped or undripped.

—

Marilyn

    New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

    Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

    Darn Good SCD Cook

    No Human Children

    Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

    Babette the Foundling Beagle