Re: Blueberries, Bowel Disease, Molds, and Sensitivity

[Guest guest]

Holly,

I'm assuming that the onion and garlic powders, oregano, etc. you

mention are " illegal " commercial ones? -- I dislike the term " illegal "

but don't know of a better one. Seems to me that it calls forth a

tendency for some of us to be unsympathetic, unconsciously ignorant

fascists -- Anyway, I noticed long ago that commercial herbs often

bothered me. Figured they were full of mold. You sound like a

kindred spirit!

Artful Carol

<<Whenever I eat anything that contains spices (onion & garlic

powders, oregano, etc.), I burp those spices for hours...sometimes

even into the next day.>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

My onion and garlic powders are homemade, but the other spices are commercial

brands (we just got a bunch of Penzey's). But even having a fresh onion touch

something I eat makes me burp onions :-(.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Holly,

> I'm assuming that the onion and garlic powders, oregano, etc. you

> mention are " illegal " commercial ones? -- I dislike the term " illegal "

> but don't know of a better one. Seems to me that it calls forth a

> tendency for some of us to be unsympathetic, unconsciously ignorant

> fascists -- Anyway, I noticed long ago that commercial herbs often

> bothered me. Figured they were full of mold. You sound like a

> kindred spirit!

>

> Artful Carol

>

> <<Whenever I eat anything that contains spices (onion & garlic

> powders, oregano, etc.), I burp those spices for hours...sometimes

> even into the next day.>>

>

[Guest guest]

Just like you, I will burp peppers (the sweet yellow, orange, red, green ones)

if I eat them or if I eat something that got in prolonged contact with it. Funny

eh ?

Annie

> >

> > Holly,

> > I'm assuming that the onion and garlic powders, oregano, etc. you

> > mention are " illegal " commercial ones? -- I dislike the term " illegal "

> > but don't know of a better one. Seems to me that it calls forth a

> > tendency for some of us to be unsympathetic, unconsciously ignorant

> > fascists -- Anyway, I noticed long ago that commercial herbs often

> > bothered me. Figured they were full of mold. You sound like a

> > kindred spirit!

> >

> > Artful Carol

> >

> > <<Whenever I eat anything that contains spices (onion & garlic

> > powders, oregano, etc.), I burp those spices for hours...sometimes

> > even into the next day.>>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

if they repeat on us - doesn't that mean our body doesn't tolerate them?

eileen

> > >

> > > Holly,

> > > I'm assuming that the onion and garlic powders, oregano, etc. you

> > > mention are " illegal " commercial ones? -- I dislike the term " illegal "

> > > but don't know of a better one. Seems to me that it calls forth a

> > > tendency for some of us to be unsympathetic, unconsciously ignorant

> > > fascists -- Anyway, I noticed long ago that commercial herbs often

> > > bothered me. Figured they were full of mold. You sound like a

> > > kindred spirit!

> > >

> > > Artful Carol

> > >

> > > <<Whenever I eat anything that contains spices (onion & garlic

> > > powders, oregano, etc.), I burp those spices for hours...sometimes

> > > even into the next day.>>

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Longo ago, pre-gut troubles, I had a year that I didn't burp onions

but if I ate them, I would perspire onions. Needless to say, I

didn't eat them that year!

[Guest guest]

I'm not a fan of peppers, onions, and garlic anyway, so I don't put them in food

that I eat/make all by myself. But my mom likes to season the meat with stuff

like that (the meat at supper is the only food item the entire family eats). I'm

just grateful to have one item that I don't have to cook myself, so a little

onion et al burping is worth it ;-).

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >>

> >> Hi Carol,

> >>

> >> My onion and garlic powders are homemade, but the other spices are

commercial brands (we just got a bunch of Penzey's). But even having a fresh

onion touch something I eat makes me burp onions :-(.

> >>

> >> Holly

> >> Crohn's

> >> SCD 12/01/08

[Guest guest]

My observation is that it's not that simple. Both my sister and I

notice that when we have a mold exposure, like when working in the

flower garden when the mold count is high, we burp a LOT - and for no

apparent reason. I believe she's one of " us " but she refuses to limit

her diet. We both had a lot of vaginal yeast problems when we were

young and that's when she was diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse

which has been connected w/ Candida problems.

Blessings,

Artful Carol

Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical,

Inhalent, and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal

Problems well-controlled past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb

allergy/anti-yeast diet, SCD 01/05. Took allergy shots for 35 yr. No

need for them since SCD! Magnesium/Vits A, B, D, E/Evening

Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown kids

recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

fungally-caused.

<< You're right, Mara, with gas it can go eitehr way. If its

fermentation, the gas produced would be exponential, whereas a die-off

reaction would produce a more finite amount of gas. So, in my

experience, if its repeated burping that doesn't provide relief, its a

result of fermentation; but cathartic gas or burping that happens once

or twice and isn't uncomfortable or feels like a relief afterward

would be caused by bacterial death. Does that make sense?>>

[Guest guest]

I don't think the garlic/onion/etc. causes gas (or at least not much), because I

don't feel bloated or anything. I think the reason I burp is because I swallow

air when I drink/eat (I burp even when I just drink water).

However, if these items are fermenting in my gut, it's really weird that such a

small amount (like when I ate a cucumber slice that had been touching an onion)

can cause it.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >

> > > Given the fact that all the foods you're mentioning have

> > > anti-fungal/biotic/viral properties I have to wonder if the burping

> > > might actually be a die-off reaction. Just a thought.

> > >

> > > fi

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