Re: Grilled Cheese and Tomato Soup --the horror

[Guest guest]

I saw when said this too and wondered what is it about that

combination that you (either of you) think made you dump?

Lucille

In a message dated 11/12/2003 2:31:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

> In a message dated 11/9/2003 11:00:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> vitalady@... writes:

> like grilled cheese + tomato soup! But I have dumped on that combo! LOL!

> I must approach with caution

>

> Same here and I rarely dump..but then I don't push the envelope all that

> often either.

>

> One of my worst dumping episodes in almost five years was from Grilled

> Cheese

> and Tomato Soup! Love it but not going there again.

>

> Bill in WV

>

[Guest guest]

Gotta ask - what kind of cheese? My son dumps on Velveeta. Will not

touch it at all. Doesn't happen with other cheeses, just Velveeta

types. Could be the combo of sugars & fats? Just a thought.

We should be the healthiest family around...he dumps on fats and I

dump on carbs & sugar. Makes for difficult meal planning, LOL! Dh

and other son just get what they get!

And just as a side note, we have discovered that he doesn't dump on

foods fried in peanut oil & olive oil...go figure! You would think

that veg oil wouldn't make him dump, but it does.

Reba

> Tomato soup + bread, I'm guessing. I just have to be careful and

not pour a

> large bowl of soup. One liil sandwich and not graze them.

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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> Re: Re: Grilled Cheese and Tomato Soup --

the horror

>

>

> > I saw when said this too and wondered what is it about

that

> > combination that you (either of you) think made you dump?

> >

> > Lucille

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 11/12/2003 2:31:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> > Graduate-OSSG writes:

> >

> >

> > > In a message dated 11/9/2003 11:00:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> > > vitalady@v... writes:

> > > like grilled cheese + tomato soup! But I have dumped on that

combo!

> LOL!

> > > I must approach with caution

> > >

> > > Same here and I rarely dump..but then I don't push the envelope

all that

> > > often either.

> > >

> > > One of my worst dumping episodes in almost five years was from

Grilled

> > > Cheese

> > > and Tomato Soup! Love it but not going there again.

> > >

> > > Bill in WV

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I saw when said this too and wondered what is it about that

> combination that you (either of you) think made you dump?

=======================================

I don't know about anyone else, but when I make grilled cheese, it is

with a good amount of butter on it. I would think that a possible

contributing factor would be the grease along with the tomatoes. Could

be the carbs from the bread, could be anything. I'm able to take about

2-3 bites of a grilled cheese sandwich and know that is my limit now.

Haven't had tomato soup in years. After all the talk about the soup and

dumping, I think I'll make it a few more years before going there and

when I do, it will be without the grilled cheese. Thanks for the warning

guys.

Regina

[Guest guest]

You know, I used to love grilled cheese, but they just aren't quite the

same with low carb bread. My new favorite alternative is to take a low

carb tortilla, lay a slice of cheese on it (I like muenster, but anything

will work), and nuke them for about 30-35 seconds. Roll up and voila! A

cheesy roll-up sandwich delight ) I'm having one for lunch with some

southwestern chicken soup (it's FREEZING cold here in Pittsburgh, and my

pouch is having an iffy day - so soup was in order).

Sally

298 (BMI 49)/-142/156

Goal: 145-150ish

lap RNY 7/10/02

Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

[Guest guest]

This whole " dumping " thing confuses me. Don't laugh or roll your eyes

(everyone) but actually I am not sure if I have dumped, or if there are

different

" types " of dumping? Here's why I say this: Mt. Sinai warned that dumping

could be caused by sugar and/or fat consumption, and that anywhere from 15

minutes to an hour after eating something problematic one might experience

extreme

nausea, palpitations, weakness, sweatiness, even vomiting (I think).

Everyone seems to say it is a miserable experience, so I wouldn't think I would

mistake it if and when it happened. So these extremely unpleasant reactions have

never happened to me, as I am pretty careful not to eat above 20 grams of sugar

at one sitting (which seems a safe limit for me), and I don't over do fats

either. BUT I have had a few times where soon after eating I have felt very

sleepy. Usually it was after a breakfast of cereal with skim milk and

strawberries (sugar?) or a my old lunch of Detour bar and a big bowl of

blueberries.

Is that dumping, sort of?

Every so often I think maybe I'll eat something decadent and see what

happens, but I hate the idea of making myself " sick " so I haven't pushed the

sugar

envelope, yet. Truthfully, I am more reluctant to find out that maybe I WON'T

dump. Just the threat of dumping is & has been a big big deterrant to me.

So that's why I was curious about what it could have been in the combination

of tomato soup & grilled cheese sandwich that made a couple of people dump.

Lucille

In a message dated 11/13/2003 8:29:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

>

>

> Tomato soup + bread, I'm guessing. I just have to be careful and not pour a

> large bowl of soup. One liil sandwich and not graze them.

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/14/2003 7:03:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

> as I am pretty careful not to eat above 20 grams of sugar

> at one sitting (which seems a safe limit for me),

I was told 5 to 6 grams of sugar maximum for any one meal. I've never

knowingly gone above 6 grams. I did have terrible vomiting, heart racing and

sweating from grilled cheese and tomato soup. After the vomiting ended, I

literally

passed out in my bed sound asleep. Someone then pointed out the tomato soup

has 12 grams of sugar per serving. I don't know why it never occurred to me

to look at the grams of sugar on the soup. In almost 20 months, that was the

first time I didn't check the sugar grams on something - and after the

experience, probably the last time I won't check!

Sandy

Boca Raton, FL

postop ~ 03/27/02

265/115/125

[Guest guest]

Reba,

Velveeta isn't cheese!!!! Get serious! Isn't it some kind of

mysterious blend of fats and milk solids? LOL Won't get near the

stuff if I can't identify it!

Vicki A.

> > Tomato soup + bread, I'm guessing. I just have to be careful and

> not pour a

> > large bowl of soup. One liil sandwich and not graze them.

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> > Vitalady, Inc. T

> > www.vitalady.com

> >

> > If you are interested in PayPal, please click here:

> > https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com

> >

> > Re: Re: Grilled Cheese and Tomato Soup --

> the horror

> >

> >

> > > I saw when said this too and wondered what is it about

> that

> > > combination that you (either of you) think made you dump?

> > >

> > > Lucille

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 11/12/2003 2:31:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> > > Graduate-OSSG writes:

> > >

> > >

> > > > In a message dated 11/9/2003 11:00:29 PM Eastern Standard

Time,

> > > > vitalady@v... writes:

> > > > like grilled cheese + tomato soup! But I have dumped on that

> combo!

> > LOL!

> > > > I must approach with caution

> > > >

> > > > Same here and I rarely dump..but then I don't push the

envelope

> all that

> > > > often either.

> > > >

> > > > One of my worst dumping episodes in almost five years was

from

> Grilled

> > > > Cheese

> > > > and Tomato Soup! Love it but not going there again.

> > > >

> > > > Bill in WV

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Lucille,

I have never dumped either. Not to offend the others, but sometimes

it drives me crazy when people ask " Can we eat this " or say we're not

supposed to eat that, or go way into their labs, supplement,

vitamins, etc.. I never got to do all of that " fun " stuff! I can

eat anything.

But I must admit, my preferences have changed a lot. I don't know if

it's because my eating habits have been changed for so long or what.

My surgeon says the wls kind of rewires the brain. So while I CAN

eat everything, I no longer CRAVE everything. Chocolate, Doritos,

ice cream, donuts, blah, blah..none of that appeals to me anymore.

And I really dislike melted yellow cheese, but I have, even pre-wls

since living in Asia for 13 years (which is why I suspectlong term

change in habits may contribute greatly) I can still go for a

blackberry pie though! And I do like hard candy.

I think, from what the others are saying, if you have ever dumped,

you would know it. And if you wonder, then you haven't.

Kind of like the big O!!!LOL

Vicki A.

> This whole " dumping " thing confuses me. Don't laugh or roll your

eyes

> (everyone) but actually I am not sure if I have dumped, or if there

are different

> " types " of dumping? Here's why I say this: Mt. Sinai warned

that dumping

> could be caused by sugar and/or fat consumption, and that anywhere

from 15

> minutes to an hour after eating something problematic one might

experience extreme

> nausea, palpitations, weakness, sweatiness, even vomiting (I

think).

> Everyone seems to say it is a miserable experience, so I wouldn't

think I would

> mistake it if and when it happened. So these extremely unpleasant

reactions have

> never happened to me, as I am pretty careful not to eat above 20

grams of sugar

> at one sitting (which seems a safe limit for me), and I don't over

do fats

> either. BUT I have had a few times where soon after eating I have

felt very

> sleepy. Usually it was after a breakfast of cereal with skim milk

and

> strawberries (sugar?) or a my old lunch of Detour bar and a big

bowl of blueberries.

> Is that dumping, sort of?

>

> Every so often I think maybe I'll eat something decadent and see

what

> happens, but I hate the idea of making myself " sick " so I haven't

pushed the sugar

> envelope, yet. Truthfully, I am more reluctant to find out that

maybe I WON'T

> dump. Just the threat of dumping is & has been a big big

deterrant to me.

> So that's why I was curious about what it could have been in the

combination

> of tomato soup & grilled cheese sandwich that made a couple of

people dump.

>

> Lucille

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/13/2003 8:29:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> Graduate-OSSG writes:

>

>

> >

> >

> > Tomato soup + bread, I'm guessing. I just have to be careful and

not pour a

> > large bowl of soup. One liil sandwich and not graze them.

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lucille,

I have never dumped either. Not to offend the others, but sometimes

it drives me crazy when people ask " Can we eat this " or say we're not

supposed to eat that, or go way into their labs, supplement,

vitamins, etc.. I never got to do all of that " fun " stuff! I can

eat anything.

But I must admit, my preferences have changed a lot. I don't know if

it's because my eating habits have been changed for so long or what.

My surgeon says the wls kind of rewires the brain. So while I CAN

eat everything, I no longer CRAVE everything. Chocolate, Doritos,

ice cream, donuts, blah, blah..none of that appeals to me anymore.

And I really dislike melted yellow cheese, but I have, even pre-wls

since living in Asia for 13 years (which is why I suspectlong term

change in habits may contribute greatly) I can still go for a

blackberry pie though! And I do like hard candy.

I think, from what the others are saying, if you have ever dumped,

you would know it. And if you wonder, then you haven't.

Kind of like the big O!!!LOL

Vicki A.

> This whole " dumping " thing confuses me. Don't laugh or roll your

eyes

> (everyone) but actually I am not sure if I have dumped, or if there

are different

> " types " of dumping? Here's why I say this: Mt. Sinai warned

that dumping

> could be caused by sugar and/or fat consumption, and that anywhere

from 15

> minutes to an hour after eating something problematic one might

experience extreme

> nausea, palpitations, weakness, sweatiness, even vomiting (I

think).

> Everyone seems to say it is a miserable experience, so I wouldn't

think I would

> mistake it if and when it happened. So these extremely unpleasant

reactions have

> never happened to me, as I am pretty careful not to eat above 20

grams of sugar

> at one sitting (which seems a safe limit for me), and I don't over

do fats

> either. BUT I have had a few times where soon after eating I have

felt very

> sleepy. Usually it was after a breakfast of cereal with skim milk

and

> strawberries (sugar?) or a my old lunch of Detour bar and a big

bowl of blueberries.

> Is that dumping, sort of?

>

> Every so often I think maybe I'll eat something decadent and see

what

> happens, but I hate the idea of making myself " sick " so I haven't

pushed the sugar

> envelope, yet. Truthfully, I am more reluctant to find out that

maybe I WON'T

> dump. Just the threat of dumping is & has been a big big

deterrant to me.

> So that's why I was curious about what it could have been in the

combination

> of tomato soup & grilled cheese sandwich that made a couple of

people dump.

>

> Lucille

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/13/2003 8:29:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> Graduate-OSSG writes:

>

>

> >

> >

> > Tomato soup + bread, I'm guessing. I just have to be careful and

not pour a

> > large bowl of soup. One liil sandwich and not graze them.

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lucille,

I have never dumped either. Not to offend the others, but sometimes

it drives me crazy when people ask " Can we eat this " or say we're not

supposed to eat that, or go way into their labs, supplement,

vitamins, etc.. I never got to do all of that " fun " stuff! I can

eat anything.

But I must admit, my preferences have changed a lot. I don't know if

it's because my eating habits have been changed for so long or what.

My surgeon says the wls kind of rewires the brain. So while I CAN

eat everything, I no longer CRAVE everything. Chocolate, Doritos,

ice cream, donuts, blah, blah..none of that appeals to me anymore.

And I really dislike melted yellow cheese, but I have, even pre-wls

since living in Asia for 13 years (which is why I suspectlong term

change in habits may contribute greatly) I can still go for a

blackberry pie though! And I do like hard candy.

I think, from what the others are saying, if you have ever dumped,

you would know it. And if you wonder, then you haven't.

Kind of like the big O!!!LOL

Vicki A.

> This whole " dumping " thing confuses me. Don't laugh or roll your

eyes

> (everyone) but actually I am not sure if I have dumped, or if there

are different

> " types " of dumping? Here's why I say this: Mt. Sinai warned

that dumping

> could be caused by sugar and/or fat consumption, and that anywhere

from 15

> minutes to an hour after eating something problematic one might

experience extreme

> nausea, palpitations, weakness, sweatiness, even vomiting (I

think).

> Everyone seems to say it is a miserable experience, so I wouldn't

think I would

> mistake it if and when it happened. So these extremely unpleasant

reactions have

> never happened to me, as I am pretty careful not to eat above 20

grams of sugar

> at one sitting (which seems a safe limit for me), and I don't over

do fats

> either. BUT I have had a few times where soon after eating I have

felt very

> sleepy. Usually it was after a breakfast of cereal with skim milk

and

> strawberries (sugar?) or a my old lunch of Detour bar and a big

bowl of blueberries.

> Is that dumping, sort of?

>

> Every so often I think maybe I'll eat something decadent and see

what

> happens, but I hate the idea of making myself " sick " so I haven't

pushed the sugar

> envelope, yet. Truthfully, I am more reluctant to find out that

maybe I WON'T

> dump. Just the threat of dumping is & has been a big big

deterrant to me.

> So that's why I was curious about what it could have been in the

combination

> of tomato soup & grilled cheese sandwich that made a couple of

people dump.

>

> Lucille

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/13/2003 8:29:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> Graduate-OSSG writes:

>

>

> >

> >

> > Tomato soup + bread, I'm guessing. I just have to be careful and

not pour a

> > large bowl of soup. One liil sandwich and not graze them.

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>