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On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 01:40:06 -0000 " tigger57ri "

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> 4. I've had a horrible problem lately when I'm driving into work. I

> start to fall asleep at the wheel. It's right after I get up and I

> could just fall right back to sleep. Do any of you think that maybe

> having a shake before I go to bed might help to hold me. I don't eat

> in the morning, but I use ProCel and UpCal in my coffee. I know we

> aren't doctors, but any ideas really would be great on this one.

> Tigger

Tigger,

The first thing that came to mind was sleep apnea. Have you been

tested for it? I know with my sleep apnea, it is worse first thing in

the morning and when I am driving.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

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Yeah, was tested for that. Nope, not a problem with it. Scares me though.

Tig

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> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 01:40:06 -0000 " tigger57ri "

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> > 4. I've had a horrible problem lately when I'm driving into work. I

> > start to fall asleep at the wheel. It's right after I get up and I

> > could just fall right back to sleep. Do any of you think that maybe

> > having a shake before I go to bed might help to hold me. I don't eat

> > in the morning, but I use ProCel and UpCal in my coffee. I know we

> > aren't doctors, but any ideas really would be great on this one.

> > Tigger

>

> Tigger,

> The first thing that came to mind was sleep apnea. Have you been

> tested for it? I know with my sleep apnea, it is worse first thing in

> the morning and when I am driving.

> Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> SRVG 7/16/01

> Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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Have you had your surgery checked to make sure it is still functioning

correctly. Endoscopy maybe? Labs?

Barbara Jean

Rally the troops.....

> ..... I'm sick and tired of feeling sick and tired and feeling sorry

> for myself for feeling sick and tired. O.k., got that? Now I need

> some serious butt kicking to get me back on track. I gained 13 pounds

> when the Dr. put me on Elavil for the fibromyalgia. I've come off

> that, and have decided to start fighting back. I have a bunch of

> questions, and am hoping I can get input..... any and all is

> appreciated.

>

> 1. I'm a proximal RNY. I had my surgery 2/12/02 and have never lost

> more than 70 pounds even though I did what I was suppose to. Oh, and

> I have recently learned there are a number of malpractice suits

> against my surgeon. Anyway, how many shakes a day do you recommend?

> And how many and like what for meals?

>

> 2. Vitamins. I've copied the vitamin schedule from the files. Is that

> what I need for a proximal?

>

> 3. Is it better to take an adult multi rather than a couple of

> children's? I really feel I need to get my immune system in tip-top

> order. I'm tired of just coming home, being in pain and going to bed.

>

> 4. I've had a horrible problem lately when I'm driving into work. I

> start to fall asleep at the wheel. It's right after I get up and I

> could just fall right back to sleep. Do any of you think that maybe

> having a shake before I go to bed might help to hold me. I don't eat

> in the morning, but I use ProCel and UpCal in my coffee. I know we

> aren't doctors, but any ideas really would be great on this one.

>

> 5. I just want you all to know that you have all been so wonderful

> to me with all the crap that has been going on in my life. I've

> decided to take the bull by the horns and take charge. I will change

> what I can and just deal with what I can't change and move on, but I

> could never have done it without you. I may not always post, but I

> ALWAYS lurk.

>

> Thanks to everyone in advance.

> Lots of love and hugs,

> Tigger

>

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> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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Well if you are finally sick and tired of not feeling good...GREAT! you are

ready to absorb info! Hehe I had to reach that before I started getting

back on track.

1) I take 2 shakes a day and sometimes 3..and once in a great while 4. It

depends if I feel I'm in control of my cravings. Some days I think our

bodies just require more fuel. Atleast 2 shakes would get you the minimum

protein you need at 30 grams a pop. I have 2 real meals a day typically

that include a lean protein such as tuna, cottage cheese, shrimp, chicken

and I balance that out with half a fruit and some vegetables and some nuts

for my fat. For snacks it depends, a slice of cheese and veggies or beef

jerky etc. I stick to one fruit a day and I don't limit myself on non

starchy vegetables. I tend to not overdue those anyway lol....kinda ironic.

I am also proximal and at goal (for myself anyway).

2) I think if you email vitalady she can answer this one better for you.

Think she needs how much you are bypassed and what your surgeon's name is.

3) same as number 2. We were bypassed and we will lack absorption of

certain vitamins. So I really don't fully agree with taking a normal

multivitamin *unless* one also takes more supplementation in the areas we

become deficient in due to this operation. If you are getting your blood

work done regularly, atleast you can catch something before it gets

worse..well some deficiencies show up in blood work...some do not though so

beware. The vitamins that we either lack absorbtion or we have it

diminished (from my readings) are: Iron, Calcium, Fat-soluble Vitamins A, D

and E and Vitamin B12, Folic Acid and B1 and B6. Make sure your B12 is

either injection or dissolvable tablet under the tongue and that your

calcium is citrate but I think you mentioned you took that anyway.

4) You may want to try a shake in the morning and see..it's kinda fun to

experiment :) Only you know your body. Hard to say on this one..could be

anything. Remember, coffee is a dehydrator and an appetite stimulant..so

you will need to make sure that you drink more water to replace what it

dehydrates.

5) One sometimes just has to get to the " i've no more tolerance for this

crap " to change thy ways hehe. I'm also thankful to this group. Very

informative.

Is your butt sore now from being kicked?

Sherra

Rally the troops.....

> ..... I'm sick and tired of feeling sick and tired and feeling sorry

> for myself for feeling sick and tired. O.k., got that? Now I need

> some serious butt kicking to get me back on track. I gained 13 pounds

> when the Dr. put me on Elavil for the fibromyalgia. I've come off

> that, and have decided to start fighting back. I have a bunch of

> questions, and am hoping I can get input..... any and all is

> appreciated.

>

> 1. I'm a proximal RNY. I had my surgery 2/12/02 and have never lost

> more than 70 pounds even though I did what I was suppose to. Oh, and

> I have recently learned there are a number of malpractice suits

> against my surgeon. Anyway, how many shakes a day do you recommend?

> And how many and like what for meals?

>

> 2. Vitamins. I've copied the vitamin schedule from the files. Is that

> what I need for a proximal?

>

> 3. Is it better to take an adult multi rather than a couple of

> children's? I really feel I need to get my immune system in tip-top

> order. I'm tired of just coming home, being in pain and going to bed.

>

> 4. I've had a horrible problem lately when I'm driving into work. I

> start to fall asleep at the wheel. It's right after I get up and I

> could just fall right back to sleep. Do any of you think that maybe

> having a shake before I go to bed might help to hold me. I don't eat

> in the morning, but I use ProCel and UpCal in my coffee. I know we

> aren't doctors, but any ideas really would be great on this one.

>

> 5. I just want you all to know that you have all been so wonderful

> to me with all the crap that has been going on in my life. I've

> decided to take the bull by the horns and take charge. I will change

> what I can and just deal with what I can't change and move on, but I

> could never have done it without you. I may not always post, but I

> ALWAYS lurk.

>

> Thanks to everyone in advance.

> Lots of love and hugs,

> Tigger

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

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--On Friday, November 07, 2003 3:43 AM +0000 Graduate-OSSG

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> 4. I've had a horrible problem lately when I'm driving into work. I

> start to fall asleep at the wheel. It's right after I get up and I

> could just fall right back to sleep. Do any of you think that maybe

> having a shake before I go to bed might help to hold me. I don't eat

> in the morning, but I use ProCel and UpCal in my coffee. I know we

> aren't doctors, but any ideas really would be great on this one.

Tigger I'm really sorry you're having such a rough time! I can't eat

anything in the morning first thing so I just have a protein shake - maybe

you could try that? I mix mine up right before I walk out the door and

drink it on the drive in.

Have you had your blood checked lately to see if you're running low on

anything - particularly I'm thinking B-12 and iron? If not, maybe that

wouldn't hurt.

Also, do you think it would be worth having your mechanics checked out? If

this surgeon has a bunch of malpractice suits pending against him, perhaps

it would be worth checking to make sure you got what you signed up for.

Hope you feel better soon!

Sally

298 (BMI 49)/-139/159

Goal: 145-150ish

lap RNY 7/10/02

Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

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In a message dated 11/7/2003 5:59:45 PM Central Standard Time,

sstewart@... writes:

> --On Friday, November 07, 2003 3:43 AM +0000 Graduate-OSSG

> wrote:

>

> >4. I've had a horrible problem lately when I'm driving into work. I

> >start to fall asleep at the wheel. It's right after I get up and I

> >could just fall right back to sleep. Do any of you think that maybe

> >having a shake before I go to bed might help to hold me. I don't eat

> >in the morning, but I use ProCel and UpCal in my coffee. I know we

> >aren't doctors, but any ideas really would be great on this one.

-----------------------------------------------

When I kept falling asleep at the wheel (and just about any time during the

day and doing almost any kind of activity), I went for a sleep study. Had sleep

apnea big time. Got put on a c-pap (similar to a bi-pap) machine, and was

100% better after the very 1st nite on it. Just a thought this may be your

problem.

Carol A

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Sally thanks so much. Mechanics were check out 2 months ago. I do have a

protein drink first thing in the morning... nothing seems to be working. I'm

seeing a neurologist on Monday... I drove off the road this morning because

I dozed. I'm o.k. the old 1991 Subaru is o.k., but it scared the crap out

of me. I called my Dr. and told her it's getting worse, she told me to see

the neurologist. My regular doctor thinks its part of my newly diagnosed

fibromyalgia, but she wants to cover her butt and mine. I'm glad about that.

I very scared right now they are going to attempt to take my license away. I

can't do that. I live in the boonies and it takes me a half hour to get to

work. Obviously not within walking distance. I'll let you know how I make

out.

Oh, and as for having blood drawn.... I've had vials and vials of it drawn

in the last 2 months. I had a high uric acid level and a high SED rate.

That's about all anyone has told me. Also my thyroid levels are borderline

hypo according to the endocrinologist, but they don't " treat " borderline.

Bed is the only place I want to be lately.

Hugs,

Tigger

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> --On Friday, November 07, 2003 3:43 AM +0000 Graduate-OSSG

> wrote:

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> > 4. I've had a horrible problem lately when I'm driving into work. I

> > start to fall asleep at the wheel. It's right after I get up and I

> > could just fall right back to sleep. Do any of you think that maybe

> > having a shake before I go to bed might help to hold me. I don't eat

> > in the morning, but I use ProCel and UpCal in my coffee. I know we

> > aren't doctors, but any ideas really would be great on this one.

>

> Tigger I'm really sorry you're having such a rough time! I can't eat

> anything in the morning first thing so I just have a protein shake - maybe

> you could try that? I mix mine up right before I walk out the door and

> drink it on the drive in.

>

> Have you had your blood checked lately to see if you're running low on

> anything - particularly I'm thinking B-12 and iron? If not, maybe that

> wouldn't hurt.

>

> Also, do you think it would be worth having your mechanics checked out?

If

> this surgeon has a bunch of malpractice suits pending against him, perhaps

> it would be worth checking to make sure you got what you signed up for.

>

> Hope you feel better soon!

>

> Sally

> 298 (BMI 49)/-139/159

> Goal: 145-150ish

> lap RNY 7/10/02

> Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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>

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Also my thyroid levels are borderline

hypo according to the endocrinologist, but they don't " treat " borderline.

***This makes me so mad! I was borderline for half my life. Getting my

thyroid up to a little past the middle range, was a real milestone for me.

I'm not saying that it's necessarily your whole problem, but it was a huge

amount of mine. Since my thyroid was upped (both T3 and T4) about 3 years

ago, I have not felt that tired ever again. It also significantly improved

my chronic, life-long depression.

Good luck, I hope you can find out what's wrong and that someone will help

you do something about it. I read on Dr. Weils website that the

patients he sees who find answers and solutions for their problems are the

ones who just keep searching and searching and never give up.

Barbara Jean

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Isn't this sometimes a symptom of Epstein-Barre, too?

in NJ

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> > --On Friday, November 07, 2003 3:43 AM +0000 Graduate-

OSSG

> > wrote:

> >

> > >4. I've had a horrible problem lately when I'm driving into

work. I start to fall asleep at the wheel. It's right after I get up

and I could just fall right back to sleep. Do any of you think that

maybe having a shake before I go to bed might help to hold me. I

don't eat in the morning, but I use ProCel and UpCal in my coffee. I

know we aren't doctors, but any ideas really would be great on this

one.

>

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well as a fellow sufferer of fibro, I can tell you it is part of the

problem. The main treatment for fibro is to straighten out the sleep cycle

so that you are getting 8 hours of quality sleep and then to gradually

increase exercise. It is one of the reasons I changed jobs. I was (and still

am) working the midnight shift, but I was traveling 35 miles to work and

back and I can't tell you the number of times I fell asleep driving. I would

pull off and try to nap, but of course then you can't cause you are waiting

for the trooper or sheriff to pull up and give you the alcohol test!

I have found the only way for me to get the required amount of sleep is to

take 2 (yes 2) flexaril about an hour before bedtime, and then an ambien as

I am getting into bed. The ambien puts me to sleep and the flexaril keeps me

asleep. On those days when I have appointments and can't take the meds, I

ache for 2 days after. Just something to think about

Phyllis

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> --On Friday, November 07, 2003 3:43 AM +0000 Graduate-OSSG

> wrote:

>

> > 4. I've had a horrible problem lately when I'm driving into work. I

> > start to fall asleep at the wheel. It's right after I get up and I

> > could just fall right back to sleep. Do any of you think that maybe

> > having a shake before I go to bed might help to hold me. I don't eat

> > in the morning, but I use ProCel and UpCal in my coffee. I know we

> > aren't doctors, but any ideas really would be great on this one.

>

> Tigger I'm really sorry you're having such a rough time! I can't eat

> anything in the morning first thing so I just have a protein shake - maybe

> you could try that? I mix mine up right before I walk out the door and

> drink it on the drive in.

>

> Have you had your blood checked lately to see if you're running low on

> anything - particularly I'm thinking B-12 and iron? If not, maybe that

> wouldn't hurt.

>

> Also, do you think it would be worth having your mechanics checked out?

If

> this surgeon has a bunch of malpractice suits pending against him, perhaps

> it would be worth checking to make sure you got what you signed up for.

>

> Hope you feel better soon!

>

> Sally

> 298 (BMI 49)/-139/159

> Goal: 145-150ish

> lap RNY 7/10/02

> Dr. Quinlin/Pittsburgh

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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>

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Can you please tell my what " fibromyalgia " is? And the symptoms?

Thanks,

in Austin

RNY April 1998

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> well as a fellow sufferer of fibro, I can tell you it is part of the

> problem. The main treatment for fibro is to straighten out the sleep cycle

> so that you are getting 8 hours of quality sleep and then to gradually

> increase exercise.

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Was tested a few years ago and everything was fine. Of course, that doesn't

mean it's fine now. Seeing a neurologist on Monday. Wish me luck.

Tigger

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> In a message dated 11/7/2003 5:59:45 PM Central Standard Time,

> sstewart@... writes:

>

> > --On Friday, November 07, 2003 3:43 AM +0000

Graduate-OSSG

> > wrote:

> >

> > >4. I've had a horrible problem lately when I'm driving into work. I

> > >start to fall asleep at the wheel. It's right after I get up and I

> > >could just fall right back to sleep. Do any of you think that maybe

> > >having a shake before I go to bed might help to hold me. I don't eat

> > >in the morning, but I use ProCel and UpCal in my coffee. I know we

> > >aren't doctors, but any ideas really would be great on this one.

> -----------------------------------------------

>

> When I kept falling asleep at the wheel (and just about any time during

the

> day and doing almost any kind of activity), I went for a sleep study. Had

sleep

> apnea big time. Got put on a c-pap (similar to a bi-pap) machine, and was

> 100% better after the very 1st nite on it. Just a thought this may be your

> problem.

>

> Carol A

>

>

>

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