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Janet

I’ve

taken Xifaxin; it is one of the “easiest” antibiotics I’ve

ever had. It targets the small intestine only, so much less impact on the

whole body. Of course it is an antibiotic, so you do have to expect impacts

on digestion and take some precautions during and after the course.

Xifaxin is often used for “traveler’s diarrhea.” I was

given Xifaxin for small intestine bloating, not diarrhea, and it helped

considerably. I still followed the antibiotic protocol of eating soft,

easy-to-digest foods and increasing my probiotics during the course of Xifaxin

and for a month afterward.

Certainly

SCD will help restore gut ecology, and it should help your daughter. I would

think antibiotics would still be necessary to deal with the E.Coli infection, you

don’t want to mess around with bacterial infections, but SCD will

help with the overall improvement of your daughter’s gut ecology.

Did your daughter have test results indicating the E.Coli overgrowth? If not,

if the doctor just suspects an E. Coli overgrowth rather than has an analysis

indicating an overgrowth, then you could decide not to take the Xifaxin

immediately, but focus on SCD for a while. Or seek other doctor opinions

on the cause of your daughter’s diarrhea.

SCD

certainly can’t hurt. But when it comes to bacterial infections, we

often have to use antibiotics along with being on SCD.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

My

daughter has been struggling with diarrhea. Her doctor wants to

treat her for E. Coli bacteria infection with the antibiotic Xifaxan.

She has not taken that step yet. Do any of you know whether the SCD

diet would help her? Her examination showed no signs of colitis, etc.

She has experienced some bleeding, which he said could have been from

straining. I don't think the diet could hurt her, unless we go

overboard in some way and get other " bugs " out of balance as a

result. She lives about 60 miles from me and I'm planning on going

down later in the week and cooking for her and getting her started on

the Intro Diet.

Janet

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Thanks so much Kim. That is what I was concerned about. I need to find out if

he is " sure " or just " suspects " . That will make a huge difference in what I

tell her!

>

> Janet

>

>

>

> I've taken Xifaxin; it is one of the " easiest " antibiotics I've ever had.

> It targets the small intestine only, so much less impact on the whole body.

> Of course it is an antibiotic, so you do have to expect impacts on digestion

> and take some precautions during and after the course. Xifaxin is often

> used for " traveler's diarrhea. " I was given Xifaxin for small intestine

> bloating, not diarrhea, and it helped considerably. I still followed the

> antibiotic protocol of eating soft, easy-to-digest foods and increasing my

> probiotics during the course of Xifaxin and for a month afterward.

>

>

>

> Certainly SCD will help restore gut ecology, and it should help your

> daughter. I would think antibiotics would still be necessary to deal with

> the E.Coli infection, you don't want to mess around with bacterial

> infections, but SCD will help with the overall improvement of your

> daughter's gut ecology. Did your daughter have test results indicating the

> E.Coli overgrowth? If not, if the doctor just suspects an E. Coli overgrowth

> rather than has an analysis indicating an overgrowth, then you could decide

> not to take the Xifaxin immediately, but focus on SCD for a while. Or seek

> other doctor opinions on the cause of your daughter's diarrhea.

>

>

>

> SCD certainly can't hurt. But when it comes to bacterial infections, we

> often have to use antibiotics along with being on SCD.

>

>

>

> Kim M.

>

> SCD 6 years

>

> Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

>

> neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

>

>

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

> My daughter has been struggling with diarrhea. Her doctor wants to

> treat her for E. Coli bacteria infection with the antibiotic Xifaxan.

> She has not taken that step yet. Do any of you know whether the SCD

> diet would help her? Her examination showed no signs of colitis, etc.

> She has experienced some bleeding, which he said could have been from

> straining. I don't think the diet could hurt her, unless we go

> overboard in some way and get other " bugs " out of balance as a

> result. She lives about 60 miles from me and I'm planning on going

> down later in the week and cooking for her and getting her started on

> the Intro Diet.

> Janet

>

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I took Xifaxan in April. My doctor had recommended this for treating SIBO. He said that some people have wonderful results with it and some notice no difference. My experience was that I felt awful while I was on it and developed blood and mucus in my stools, which I had never experienced before and has not cleared up yet. He did say he had never seen that sort of thing before, but that has been my experience, for what it's worth. Clearly, your daughter is in a different situation, but thought I would just share my experience.

Best wishes, KelleyCeliac 4/10SCD 5/10

 

Thanks so much Kim. That is what I was concerned about. I need to find out if he is " sure " or just " suspects " . That will make a huge difference in what I tell her!

>

> Janet

>

>

>

> I've taken Xifaxin; it is one of the " easiest " antibiotics I've ever had.

> It targets the small intestine only, so much less impact on the whole body.

> Of course it is an antibiotic, so you do have to expect impacts on digestion

> and take some precautions during and after the course. Xifaxin is often

> used for " traveler's diarrhea. " I was given Xifaxin for small intestine

> bloating, not diarrhea, and it helped considerably. I still followed the

> antibiotic protocol of eating soft, easy-to-digest foods and increasing my

> probiotics during the course of Xifaxin and for a month afterward.

>

>

>

> Certainly SCD will help restore gut ecology, and it should help your

> daughter. I would think antibiotics would still be necessary to deal with

> the E.Coli infection, you don't want to mess around with bacterial

> infections, but SCD will help with the overall improvement of your

> daughter's gut ecology. Did your daughter have test results indicating the

> E.Coli overgrowth? If not, if the doctor just suspects an E. Coli overgrowth

> rather than has an analysis indicating an overgrowth, then you could decide

> not to take the Xifaxin immediately, but focus on SCD for a while. Or seek

> other doctor opinions on the cause of your daughter's diarrhea.

>

>

>

> SCD certainly can't hurt. But when it comes to bacterial infections, we

> often have to use antibiotics along with being on SCD.

>

>

>

> Kim M.

>

> SCD 6 years

>

> Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

>

> neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

>

>

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

> My daughter has been struggling with diarrhea. Her doctor wants to

> treat her for E. Coli bacteria infection with the antibiotic Xifaxan.

> She has not taken that step yet. Do any of you know whether the SCD

> diet would help her? Her examination showed no signs of colitis, etc.

> She has experienced some bleeding, which he said could have been from

> straining. I don't think the diet could hurt her, unless we go

> overboard in some way and get other " bugs " out of balance as a

> result. She lives about 60 miles from me and I'm planning on going

> down later in the week and cooking for her and getting her started on

> the Intro Diet.

> Janet

>

-- Kelley

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Thanks for the input Kelley. Pardon my ignorance..........what is SIBO?

> > >

> > > Janet

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I've taken Xifaxin; it is one of the " easiest " antibiotics I've ever had.

> > > It targets the small intestine only, so much less impact on the whole

> > body.

> > > Of course it is an antibiotic, so you do have to expect impacts on

> > digestion

> > > and take some precautions during and after the course. Xifaxin is often

> > > used for " traveler's diarrhea. " I was given Xifaxin for small intestine

> > > bloating, not diarrhea, and it helped considerably. I still followed the

> > > antibiotic protocol of eating soft, easy-to-digest foods and increasing

> > my

> > > probiotics during the course of Xifaxin and for a month afterward.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Certainly SCD will help restore gut ecology, and it should help your

> > > daughter. I would think antibiotics would still be necessary to deal with

> > > the E.Coli infection, you don't want to mess around with bacterial

> > > infections, but SCD will help with the overall improvement of your

> > > daughter's gut ecology. Did your daughter have test results indicating

> > the

> > > E.Coli overgrowth? If not, if the doctor just suspects an E. Coli

> > overgrowth

> > > rather than has an analysis indicating an overgrowth, then you could

> > decide

> > > not to take the Xifaxin immediately, but focus on SCD for a while. Or

> > seek

> > > other doctor opinions on the cause of your daughter's diarrhea.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > SCD certainly can't hurt. But when it comes to bacterial infections, we

> > > often have to use antibiotics along with being on SCD.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kim M.

> > >

> > > SCD 6 years

> > >

> > > Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

> > >

> > > neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >

> > > My daughter has been struggling with diarrhea. Her doctor wants to

> > > treat her for E. Coli bacteria infection with the antibiotic Xifaxan.

> > > She has not taken that step yet. Do any of you know whether the SCD

> > > diet would help her? Her examination showed no signs of colitis, etc.

> > > She has experienced some bleeding, which he said could have been from

> > > straining. I don't think the diet could hurt her, unless we go

> > > overboard in some way and get other " bugs " out of balance as a

> > > result. She lives about 60 miles from me and I'm planning on going

> > > down later in the week and cooking for her and getting her started on

> > > the Intro Diet.

> > > Janet

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Kelley

>

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No problem, I had never heard of it before either. ;)http://www.medicinenet.com/small_intestinal_bacterial_overgrowth/article.htm

This was the article I found most helpful.Kelley

 

Thanks for the input Kelley. Pardon my ignorance..........what is SIBO?

> > >

> > > Janet

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I've taken Xifaxin; it is one of the " easiest " antibiotics I've ever had.

> > > It targets the small intestine only, so much less impact on the whole

> > body.

> > > Of course it is an antibiotic, so you do have to expect impacts on

> > digestion

> > > and take some precautions during and after the course. Xifaxin is often

> > > used for " traveler's diarrhea. " I was given Xifaxin for small intestine

> > > bloating, not diarrhea, and it helped considerably. I still followed the

> > > antibiotic protocol of eating soft, easy-to-digest foods and increasing

> > my

> > > probiotics during the course of Xifaxin and for a month afterward.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Certainly SCD will help restore gut ecology, and it should help your

> > > daughter. I would think antibiotics would still be necessary to deal with

> > > the E.Coli infection, you don't want to mess around with bacterial

> > > infections, but SCD will help with the overall improvement of your

> > > daughter's gut ecology. Did your daughter have test results indicating

> > the

> > > E.Coli overgrowth? If not, if the doctor just suspects an E. Coli

> > overgrowth

> > > rather than has an analysis indicating an overgrowth, then you could

> > decide

> > > not to take the Xifaxin immediately, but focus on SCD for a while. Or

> > seek

> > > other doctor opinions on the cause of your daughter's diarrhea.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > SCD certainly can't hurt. But when it comes to bacterial infections, we

> > > often have to use antibiotics along with being on SCD.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kim M.

> > >

> > > SCD 6 years

> > >

> > > Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

> > >

> > > neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >

> > > My daughter has been struggling with diarrhea. Her doctor wants to

> > > treat her for E. Coli bacteria infection with the antibiotic Xifaxan.

> > > She has not taken that step yet. Do any of you know whether the SCD

> > > diet would help her? Her examination showed no signs of colitis, etc.

> > > She has experienced some bleeding, which he said could have been from

> > > straining. I don't think the diet could hurt her, unless we go

> > > overboard in some way and get other " bugs " out of balance as a

> > > result. She lives about 60 miles from me and I'm planning on going

> > > down later in the week and cooking for her and getting her started on

> > > the Intro Diet.

> > > Janet

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Kelley

>

-- Kelley

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Kim.......I've read several articles stating Xifaxan targets the digestive tract

and does not go into the blood stream. Your reply stated more specifically the

" small intestines " . I'm confused now. Could you please elaborate for me?

Thanks!

> > > > >

> > > > > Janet

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I've taken Xifaxin; it is one of the " easiest " antibiotics I've ever

> > had.

> > > > > It targets the small intestine only, so much less impact on the whole

> > > > body.

> > > > > Of course it is an antibiotic, so you do have to expect impacts on

> > > > digestion

> > > > > and take some precautions during and after the course. Xifaxin is

> > often

> > > > > used for " traveler's diarrhea. " I was given Xifaxin for small

> > intestine

> > > > > bloating, not diarrhea, and it helped considerably. I still followed

> > the

> > > > > antibiotic protocol of eating soft, easy-to-digest foods and

> > increasing

> > > > my

> > > > > probiotics during the course of Xifaxin and for a month afterward.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Certainly SCD will help restore gut ecology, and it should help your

> > > > > daughter. I would think antibiotics would still be necessary to deal

> > with

> > > > > the E.Coli infection, you don't want to mess around with bacterial

> > > > > infections, but SCD will help with the overall improvement of your

> > > > > daughter's gut ecology. Did your daughter have test results

> > indicating

> > > > the

> > > > > E.Coli overgrowth? If not, if the doctor just suspects an E. Coli

> > > > overgrowth

> > > > > rather than has an analysis indicating an overgrowth, then you could

> > > > decide

> > > > > not to take the Xifaxin immediately, but focus on SCD for a while. Or

> > > > seek

> > > > > other doctor opinions on the cause of your daughter's diarrhea.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > SCD certainly can't hurt. But when it comes to bacterial infections,

> > we

> > > > > often have to use antibiotics along with being on SCD.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Kim M.

> > > > >

> > > > > SCD 6 years

> > > > >

> > > > > Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

> > > > >

> > > > > neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > > >

> > > > > My daughter has been struggling with diarrhea. Her doctor wants to

> > > > > treat her for E. Coli bacteria infection with the antibiotic Xifaxan.

> > > > > She has not taken that step yet. Do any of you know whether the SCD

> > > > > diet would help her? Her examination showed no signs of colitis, etc.

> > > > > She has experienced some bleeding, which he said could have been from

> > > > > straining. I don't think the diet could hurt her, unless we go

> > > > > overboard in some way and get other " bugs " out of balance as a

> > > > > result. She lives about 60 miles from me and I'm planning on going

> > > > > down later in the week and cooking for her and getting her started on

> > > > > the Intro Diet.

> > > > > Janet

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Kelley

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Kelley

>

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My

gastroenterologist is the one who mentioned that Xifaxan targets the small

intestine, and since I knew a majority of bacterial overgrowths tend to occur

in the small intestine (SIBO) I just accepted his words without checking.

However, I just looked again at Xifaxan and how it works. Everything I

came across indicates Xifaxin does target the intestines, but doesn’t

specify small or large intestine. It is non-systemic, which means that it

won’t pass through into the blood stream and impact the entire

body. Which is a good thing.

So,

my gastroenterologist wasn’t being entirely, technically accurate. He

knew I have small intestine issues, so must have geared his discussion of

Xifaxan to that. Doctors do this quite often [sigh]. At the

time, not long after my digestive disorder diagnosis, I wasn’t doing as

much research as I do now. Sorry for the misinformation.

One

thing I didn’t realize is that Xifaxan can’t help with diarrhea

when it’s accompanied by blood or fevers. However Xifaxan is most

effective against E.Coli bacteria, not some other strains.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Kim.......I've

read several articles stating Xifaxan targets the digestive tract and does not

go into the blood stream. Your reply stated more specifically the " small

intestines " . I'm confused now. Could you please elaborate for me? Thanks!

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Miscommunications seem to be " contagious " ! When I asked my daughter how he

diagnosed the E. Coli she said that he did not say she had that.....just that

this particular antibiotic was used for E. Coli treatment. Go figure! I told

her to start the diet and see what happens.

>

> My gastroenterologist is the one who mentioned that Xifaxan targets the

> small intestine, and since I knew a majority of bacterial overgrowths tend

> to occur in the small intestine (SIBO) I just accepted his words without

> checking. However, I just looked again at Xifaxan and how it works.

> Everything I came across indicates Xifaxin does target the intestines, but

> doesn't specify small or large intestine. It is non-systemic, which means

> that it won't pass through into the blood stream and impact the entire body.

> Which is a good thing.

>

>

>

> So, my gastroenterologist wasn't being entirely, technically accurate. He

> knew I have small intestine issues, so must have geared his discussion of

> Xifaxan to that. Doctors do this quite often [sigh]. At the time, not

> long after my digestive disorder diagnosis, I wasn't doing as much research

> as I do now. Sorry for the misinformation.

>

>

>

> One thing I didn't realize is that Xifaxan can't help with diarrhea when

> it's accompanied by blood or fevers. However Xifaxan is most effective

> against E.Coli bacteria, not some other strains.

>

>

>

> Kim M.

>

> SCD 6 years

>

>

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

> Kim.......I've read several articles stating Xifaxan targets the digestive

> tract and does not go into the blood stream. Your reply stated more

> specifically the " small intestines " . I'm confused now. Could you please

> elaborate for me? Thanks!

>

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