Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 At 04:20 PM 7/20/2010, you wrote: So, my question is - are there any legal canned or " off the shelf " coconut milks? If I find one that says it contains only coconut and water (such as Trader Joe's light coconut milk)? To the best of my knowledge, no, there aren't any legal coconut milks that are commercial. There used to be, but then they started putting guar gum and carrageenan and other junk on them to make them " thicker " and " richer, " ie, so they could use less actual coconut. If you find one which you think is legal, you can post the ingredients, and we'll tell you what we think. THen you write the company and verify, in writing, on the company letterhead, that the item in question contains no illegals. THen we can post it to our library. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I don't think many on this list would approve, because I haven't gotten an official letter from the company as is recommended when trying to "legalize" an prepared product... however, based on the information on their website, regarding their coconut milk products, I personally am comfortable using the "natural value" brand coconut milk. They emphasize that they do not use any fillers or stabilizers and that they very much want their product to contain only coconut and water. You can do a simple google search yourself to see what you think about that company... I also love that it is organic! Good luck! AMITo: BTVC-SCD From: stacie@...Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:20:27 +0000Subject: Canned coconut milk legal? I would love to make some more thai-inspired foods. One of my favs is a coconut-curry chicken soup. I haven't made it since going SCD b/c I can't stand having to make homemade coconut milk. So, my question is - are there any legal canned or "off the shelf" coconut milks? If I find one that says it contains only coconut and water (such as Trader Joe's light coconut milk)? Thanks in advance, Stacie The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 AMI, You might want to check out this:: There is a problem with their coconut milk: http://www.naturalvalue.com/ProblemWithOurCoconutMilk.htm Misty Kimble CD - no meds SCD - Jan 2008 > > > I don't think many on this list would approve, because I haven't gotten an official letter from the company as is recommended when trying to " legalize " an prepared product... however, based on the information on their website, regarding their coconut milk products, I personally am comfortable using the " natural value " brand coconut milk. They emphasize that they do not use any fillers or stabilizers and that they very much want their product to contain only coconut and water. You can do a simple google search yourself to see what you think about that company... I also love that it is organic! Good luck! AMI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 At 01:06 AM 7/21/2010, you wrote: I don't think many on this list would approve, because I haven't gotten an official letter from the company as is recommended when trying to " legalize " an prepared product... however, based on the information on their website, regarding their coconut milk products, I personally am comfortable using the " natural value " brand coconut milk. They emphasize that they do not use any fillers or stabilizers and that they very much want their product to contain only coconut and water. You can do a simple google search yourself to see what you think about that company... I also love that it is organic! Good luck! Amy, You may be comfortable using this product, but, just because something is organic does not mean it is SCD-legal. I ask that people get letters for a reason... because this is what Elaine required when she was alive. Perhaps it's paranoia on my part, but I was sick for so long, and told it was all in my head, and that if I would just stop stuffing my face and lose some weight, " it, " whatever the problem at the moment was, would all clear up. SCD solved that. I have seen so many sneaky methods of getting around the ingredients regulations that I want to scream. I have also learned, through painful experience, that short-cuts -- like using a canned coconut milk that LOOKED legal -- aren't really. So please, if you consider this product to be SCD-legal, take the time, do your fellow listers a favor, and take the time to get a letter verifying the product that we can put in our library. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 At 10:15 AM 7/21/2010, you wrote: You might want to check out this:: There is a problem with their coconut milk: http://www.naturalvalue.com/ProblemWithOurCoconutMilk.htm And THIS is why I stress " make your own! " Even though the people selling it didn't want the junk in there, because the lines of communication got tangled, it was in there. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 If you read that article, scrolling down, there is a whole section about how the issue is resolved now. FYITo: BTVC-SCD From: LouisianaSCDLagniappe@...Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:46:48 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Canned coconut milk legal? At 10:15 AM 7/21/2010, you wrote: You might want to check out this:: There is a problem with their coconut milk: http://www.naturalvalue.com/ProblemWithOurCoconutMilk.htm And THIS is why I stress "make your own!" Even though the people selling it didn't want the junk in there, because the lines of communication got tangled, it was in there. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Marilyn -I completely understand why the the list requires the letter from the company. It IS the only way to be SURE that a product is legal... nevertheless... as this example illustrates, even if a company is convinced that everything is good - things can happen. I also didn't, in any way, mean to indicate that "organic" products are universally scd-legal. It was simply a side-note to the rest of my comment. Additionally, I thought that I made it abundantly clear that what I was saying about this product was a PERSONAL opinion that I was simply offering as a lead to someone else, as I HAVE used this particular product for some time without any problems. Here is my question... should I have not made this post? I find information such as this very helpful when it comes from others, and tried to be really clear that I was not declaring canned coconut milk (or organics) as legals.... People need to be able to make their own decisions about things, AND at the same time I understand that there are people who might have read my post and mis-understood it.... So, what to do. Here's my thing about the universal "make it yourself" rule... some of us have extremely stressful, difficult lives, juggling jobs, children, housework AND illness. The added stress of having to make everything yourself can really derail progress and devotion to the diet (at least I have found this to be true for me personally). It may be a "small victory"... but for me, finding the Natural Value write-up on their coconut milk product was nearly a god-send... I found my shoulders relaxing just a little bit as I though to myself 'wow - maybe I won't have to make my own coconut milk anymore...'.... I know it sounds silly, but over time, the effort involved in all the cooking really takes it's toll on me. I am not advocating that someone ignore BTVC's guidelines for prepared products, just that we use our minds to do the research and proceed with caution. In some cases (mine) the effort involved to contact the company is a bit daunting. Especially as I am barely able to keep it together on a day-to-day basis at times... So, what is your recommendation? I will keep quiet on future similar posts, but personally, really appreciate when other people provide similar information. Thanks, AMITo: BTVC-SCD From: LouisianaSCDLagniappe@...Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:32:40 -0500Subject: RE: Canned coconut milk legal? At 01:06 AM 7/21/2010, you wrote: I don't think many on this list would approve, because I haven't gotten an official letter from the company as is recommended when trying to "legalize" an prepared product... however, based on the information on their website, regarding their coconut milk products, I personally am comfortable using the "natural value" brand coconut milk. They emphasize that they do not use any fillers or stabilizers and that they very much want their product to contain only coconut and water. You can do a simple google search yourself to see what you think about that company... I also love that it is organic! Good luck! Amy, You may be comfortable using this product, but, just because something is organic does not mean it is SCD-legal. I ask that people get letters for a reason... because this is what Elaine required when she was alive. Perhaps it's paranoia on my part, but I was sick for so long, and told it was all in my head, and that if I would just stop stuffing my face and lose some weight, "it," whatever the problem at the moment was, would all clear up. SCD solved that. I have seen so many sneaky methods of getting around the ingredients regulations that I want to scream. I have also learned, through painful experience, that short-cuts -- like using a canned coconut milk that LOOKED legal -- aren't really. So please, if you consider this product to be SCD-legal, take the time, do your fellow listers a favor, and take the time to get a letter verifying the product that we can put in our library. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 But, they still don't have any ready for sale so if you go to Amazon or another vendor, you might get the bad stuff that didn't get pulled since there is no new stuff out there. > > > If you read that article, scrolling down, there is a whole section about how the issue is resolved now. FYI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 where is this brand for sale, in any case? I've never seen it? Mara > But, they still don't have any ready for sale so if you go to Amazon or another vendor, you might get the bad stuff that didn't get pulled since there is no new stuff out there. > > >> >> >> If you read that article, scrolling down, there is a whole section about how the issue is resolved now. FYI > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Actually, the Organic one has illegal junk in it. Only the Natural one " appears " to be legal (if they get their problems straightened out). Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > > I don't think many on this list would approve, because I haven't gotten an official letter from the company as is recommended when trying to " legalize " an prepared product... however, based on the information on their website, regarding their coconut milk products, I personally am comfortable using the " natural value " brand coconut milk. They emphasize that they do not use any fillers or stabilizers and that they very much want their product to contain only coconut and water. You can do a simple google search yourself to see what you think about that company... I also love that it is organic! Good luck! AMI > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 This is also a good lesson in reading the ingredients every time you purchase a food or supplement, even if it was legal in the past. You never know when they may go and change the ingredients on you (the coconut milk below did correctly state in the ingredients that it had guar gum in it). Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > >You might want to check out this:: There is a problem with their coconut milk: > > > ><http://www.naturalvalue.com/ProblemWithOurCoconutMilk.htm>http://www.naturalva\ lue.com/ProblemWithOurCoconutMilk.htm > > And THIS is why I stress " make your own! " > > Even though the people selling it didn't want the > junk in there, because the lines of communication got tangled, it was in there. > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Babette the Foundling Beagle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Has anyone tried the frozen shredded coconut next to frozen fruit (Kroger where I live and it's the only place I've seen it). Ingredients: coconut. Decent price. Not sure on amount but it's not a very big package. That doesn't seem like it would take long to simmer, blend, strain, have milk. Debbie 41 cd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I don't know when this "issue" with the tainted coconut milk was... but I have been using this brand for years, and they have since changed the color of their label from red to purple. Look - I didn't mean to offend anyone - I just find it interesting that there may be foods out there that can simplify our lives.... That being said... this company DOES seem to vary from having no additives to having additives.... so I guess you have to check labels - or not use it at all. In any case, the reason I know it varies, is cuz I just checked the case I bought, and it says it has guar gum... so - here I am, eating my words... ugh! Just when you think a company is doing something reputable by "resolving" an issue, and posting on the internet that it has been "resolved" this comes up! Ugh! Sorry everyone for causing such a commotion! btw- this brand is sold at natural/health food stores....AMITo: BTVC-SCD From: alcibiades@...Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:15:26 -0400Subject: Re: Re: Canned coconut milk legal? where is this brand for sale, in any case? I've never seen it? Mara > But, they still don't have any ready for sale so if you go to Amazon or another vendor, you might get the bad stuff that didn't get pulled since there is no new stuff out there. > > >> >> >> If you read that article, scrolling down, there is a whole section about how the issue is resolved now. FYI > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 At 08:13 PM 7/21/2010, you wrote: Look - I didn't mean to offend anyone - I just find it interesting that there may be foods out there that can simplify our lives.... That being said... this company DOES seem to vary from having no additives to having additives.... so I guess you have to check labels - or not use it at all. In any case, the reason I know it varies, is cuz I just checked the case I bought, and it says it has guar gum... so - here I am, eating my words... ugh! Just when you think a company is doing something reputable by " resolving " an issue, and posting on the internet that it has been " resolved " this comes up! Ugh! Sorry everyone for causing such a commotion! btw- this brand is sold at natural/health food stores.... Amy, I don't think anyone's offended. And certainly, every single one of us would like to find things which can make life easier for us. I'm sure everyone just about fell over with delight when the letter for Cento tomatoes was posted, because I can tell you from personal experience that peeling, seeding, and cooking down a couple of hundred pounds of tomatoes for sauce is seriously NOT entertaining! (That the sauce from those tomatoes was lost due to Hurricane Katrina STILL hurts.) But your experience, where, with even the best of intentions on the part of the distributors of this coconut milk, there were illegals in the commercial product, demonstrates clearly how scrupulously careful we have to be. It also demonstrates how widely spread the adulteration of our food products has spread, when Thai coconut milk makers assume that people want it CHEAPER, regardless of what you have to put into the product to make it that way. My goal is to cook healthy and NOT spend my life in the kitchen! But I absolutely won't let convenience take me back to the horrid shape I was in when I began SCD. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 I am definitely frustrated at the state of our food system. It's terrible, really, that there just isn't real food out there....! Thanks for keeping my on my toes about this! AMITo: BTVC-SCD From: LouisianaSCDLagniappe@...Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:44:38 -0500Subject: RE: Re: Canned coconut milk legal? At 08:13 PM 7/21/2010, you wrote: Look - I didn't mean to offend anyone - I just find it interesting that there may be foods out there that can simplify our lives.... That being said... this company DOES seem to vary from having no additives to having additives.... so I guess you have to check labels - or not use it at all. In any case, the reason I know it varies, is cuz I just checked the case I bought, and it says it has guar gum... so - here I am, eating my words... ugh! Just when you think a company is doing something reputable by "resolving" an issue, and posting on the internet that it has been "resolved" this comes up! Ugh! Sorry everyone for causing such a commotion! btw- this brand is sold at natural/health food stores.... Amy, I don't think anyone's offended. And certainly, every single one of us would like to find things which can make life easier for us. I'm sure everyone just about fell over with delight when the letter for Cento tomatoes was posted, because I can tell you from personal experience that peeling, seeding, and cooking down a couple of hundred pounds of tomatoes for sauce is seriously NOT entertaining! (That the sauce from those tomatoes was lost due to Hurricane Katrina STILL hurts.) But your experience, where, with even the best of intentions on the part of the distributors of this coconut milk, there were illegals in the commercial product, demonstrates clearly how scrupulously careful we have to be. It also demonstrates how widely spread the adulteration of our food products has spread, when Thai coconut milk makers assume that people want it CHEAPER, regardless of what you have to put into the product to make it that way. My goal is to cook healthy and NOT spend my life in the kitchen! But I absolutely won't let convenience take me back to the horrid shape I was in when I began SCD. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Trader Joe's sells light coconut milk that only lists coconut milk and water as the ingredients. They also always say they list everything on their labels when you email them, but this is also made in Thailand and I am scared to try it. Anyone have more information? Joe > > I would love to make some more thai-inspired foods. One of my favs is a coconut-curry chicken soup. I haven't made it since going SCD b/c I can't stand having to make homemade coconut milk. So, my question is - are there any legal canned or " off the shelf " coconut milks? If I find one that says it contains only coconut and water (such as Trader Joe's light coconut milk)? > Thanks in advance, > Stacie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Eat Well, Feel Well llsts it as okay, as of a few years back. But like everything, it's try at your own risk and back off if you get a reaction. I had some this week - though I almost always make my own - ran out so I hit up my emergency supply. It definitely doesn't taste like homemade -so I think it may have something in it. IMO only. Or maybe they use a different process that somehow changes the taste - but then there is also the fact that it doesn't separate, and I don't know how they get that to happen. I was fine with it - but then I'm having a very, very stable week. Mara > Trader Joe's sells light coconut milk that only lists coconut milk and water as the ingredients. They also always say they list everything on their labels when you email them, but this is also made in Thailand and I am scared to try it. Anyone have more information? > > Joe > > >> >> I would love to make some more thai-inspired foods. One of my favs is a coconut-curry chicken soup. I haven't made it since going SCD b/c I can't stand having to make homemade coconut milk. So, my question is - are there any legal canned or " off the shelf " coconut milks? If I find one that says it contains only coconut and water (such as Trader Joe's light coconut milk)? >> Thanks in advance, >> Stacie >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Maybe it tasted different (and doesn't separate) because it's a light coconut milk? Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > >> > >> I would love to make some more thai-inspired foods. One of my favs is a coconut-curry chicken soup. I haven't made it since going SCD b/c I can't stand having to make homemade coconut milk. So, my question is - are there any legal canned or " off the shelf " coconut milks? If I find one that says it contains only coconut and water (such as Trader Joe's light coconut milk)? > >> Thanks in advance, > >> Stacie > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I don't think so, because the cream was spread throughout. and lately I've been diluting mine into light as well, because I'm using it a lot and it is pretty fattening. It could be some kind of emulsion tech. I don't have. But I at least have suspicions. Because an emulsified vinaigrette for example will separate over time. Mara > Maybe it tasted different (and doesn't separate) because it's a light coconut milk? > > Holly > Crohn's > SCD 12/01/08 > > >>>> >>>> I would love to make some more thai-inspired foods. One of my favs is a coconut-curry chicken soup. I haven't made it since going SCD b/c I can't stand having to make homemade coconut milk. So, my question is - are there any legal canned or " off the shelf " coconut milks? If I find one that says it contains only coconut and water (such as Trader Joe's light coconut milk)? >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> Stacie >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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