Re: Does it ever get easier?

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For you longer-term post-ops, does this ever get easier?

******** well, yes & no. More like you develop a rhythm to go with it

Does it

keep getting harder?

********* well, sorta depends on who's in the driver's seat

Do you just finally have a day where you accept

you'll have screamin' head hunger demons, off 'n on, forever?

*********** yes.

What

do you tell the little buggers to get 'em to shaddup?

********* I drown 'em. I'm not walking perfection here. Sometimes they win.

If they win, and I get back on the wagon within an hour or so, *I* win. If

they win and I let them win the next day, welll, then, I'm just asking for

trouble. Unfortunately, protein supp is the ONLY way I know to beat them

back. I don't care how many, how close together, as long as *I* stay in the

driver's seat.

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Does it ever get easier?

> Or maybe I should ask, Does it ever stop getting harder?

>

> (** no snickering **)

>

> I'm 17 months post-op and have been mostly lurking in these parts,

> but I've noticed that it is harder and harder for me to stick to my

> good post-op eating habits. I haven't regained anything (yet),

> largely because I keep clambering up on the danged horse, but I'm

> looking more and more disheveled each time now. I figured, I'd just

> learn to handle the occasional " rough patch " of bad eating now and

> then, as " normal " people do (don't they? ... ), but the rough patches

> are coming more and more often, and frankly, they're not really all

> that rough; truth is, I'm just wantin' junk food way too much.

>

> I've read the sage advice on how to detox from carbs and sugars (and

> yes, I'm still doing my protein shakes). I'm doing my best to follow

> it, but am annoyed with myself that it's come to that already and am,

> of course, absolutely terrified of regaining everything, like I

> always did as a pre-op. Unlike many of the brave souls here,

> sometimes, when I fall off the horse, I just wander off the farm and

> don't even try to return. I feel the odds of that happening are

> really growing lately.

>

> For you longer-term post-ops, does this ever get easier? Does it

> keep getting harder? Do you just finally have a day where you accept

> you'll have screamin' head hunger demons, off 'n on, forever? What

> do you tell the little buggers to get 'em to shaddup? I hear their

> cries even under all that protein I've been burying them under, and

> now they even whisper in my ear when I'm jogging on the treadmill.

> Used to be, they weren't with me *all* the time. Now, they are.

>

> Help! (Going under, for the first time ....)

>

> Suzy C.

> Age 45

> RNY 5/30/02

> 268/130

> (and oh yeah ... startin' menopause now, too.

> Go Ahead, Make My Day. ;-D)

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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>

>

>

>

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Hi Suzy:

I agree with Michele. I did notice though in your signature line that you

are going through menopause. This can have a HUGE effect on cravings. I'm

not sure what to recommend doing about it. Are you on hormones?

Barbara Jean

Does it ever get easier?

>

>

> > Or maybe I should ask, Does it ever stop getting harder?

> >

> > (** no snickering **)

> >

> > I'm 17 months post-op and have been mostly lurking in these parts,

> > but I've noticed that it is harder and harder for me to stick to my

> > good post-op eating habits. I haven't regained anything (yet),

> > largely because I keep clambering up on the danged horse, but I'm

> > looking more and more disheveled each time now. I figured, I'd just

> > learn to handle the occasional " rough patch " of bad eating now and

> > then, as " normal " people do (don't they? ... ), but the rough patches

> > are coming more and more often, and frankly, they're not really all

> > that rough; truth is, I'm just wantin' junk food way too much.

> >

> > I've read the sage advice on how to detox from carbs and sugars (and

> > yes, I'm still doing my protein shakes). I'm doing my best to follow

> > it, but am annoyed with myself that it's come to that already and am,

> > of course, absolutely terrified of regaining everything, like I

> > always did as a pre-op. Unlike many of the brave souls here,

> > sometimes, when I fall off the horse, I just wander off the farm and

> > don't even try to return. I feel the odds of that happening are

> > really growing lately.

> >

> > For you longer-term post-ops, does this ever get easier? Does it

> > keep getting harder? Do you just finally have a day where you accept

> > you'll have screamin' head hunger demons, off 'n on, forever? What

> > do you tell the little buggers to get 'em to shaddup? I hear their

> > cries even under all that protein I've been burying them under, and

> > now they even whisper in my ear when I'm jogging on the treadmill.

> > Used to be, they weren't with me *all* the time. Now, they are.

> >

> > Help! (Going under, for the first time ....)

> >

> > Suzy C.

> > Age 45

> > RNY 5/30/02

> > 268/130

> > (and oh yeah ... startin' menopause now, too.

> > Go Ahead, Make My Day. ;-D)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Oh Suzy you poor thing! I am over 10 years post op and have no

regain, however I am viligent about my health. I am not saying it is

easy as a matter of fact the demons whisper to me most of the time.

When those craving start in on me, I grab a protein bar, I have

several that I really like and they taste better than a candy bar to

me and plus they make me feel good. There are days when I get so

tried of having to supplement with vits and protein, but then I

remind myself how crappy I will feel if I don't behave. Also, I have

a motto that I live by: " Nothing tastes as good as being thin

feels " . I say that mantra 100 times a day, very day. Honey it will

start to get second nature as more time goes on and you just simply

have to tell yourself this is a lifetime deal and you just gotta come

to terms with it. Kinda like doing your hair and makeup every day-it

is a drag but I would not be caught dead in public unless I am put

together, so my supplmenting has become a habit just like my daily

hygeine. I am also in menopause and that stinks! I am on HRT and

that has really helped with all the awful symptoms.

Just hang in there darling and remember some days you will be the bug

and some days you will be the windshield and as more and more time

goes on, your bug days will become less and less!

Wishing you much success!

EJ

Open RNY

post op-270

pre op 10+ years - 130

5'8 " -almost 52 years old and loving life!

> Or maybe I should ask, Does it ever stop getting harder?

>

> (** no snickering **)

>

> I'm 17 months post-op and have been mostly lurking in these parts,

> but I've noticed that it is harder and harder for me to stick to my

> good post-op eating habits. I haven't regained anything (yet),

> largely because I keep clambering up on the danged horse, but I'm

> looking more and more disheveled each time now. I figured, I'd

just

> learn to handle the occasional " rough patch " of bad eating now and

> then, as " normal " people do (don't they? ... ), but the rough

patches

> are coming more and more often, and frankly, they're not really all

> that rough; truth is, I'm just wantin' junk food way too much.

>

> I've read the sage advice on how to detox from carbs and sugars

(and

> yes, I'm still doing my protein shakes). I'm doing my best to

follow

> it, but am annoyed with myself that it's come to that already and

am,

> of course, absolutely terrified of regaining everything, like I

> always did as a pre-op. Unlike many of the brave souls here,

> sometimes, when I fall off the horse, I just wander off the farm

and

> don't even try to return. I feel the odds of that happening are

> really growing lately.

>

> For you longer-term post-ops, does this ever get easier? Does it

> keep getting harder? Do you just finally have a day where you

accept

> you'll have screamin' head hunger demons, off 'n on, forever? What

> do you tell the little buggers to get 'em to shaddup? I hear their

> cries even under all that protein I've been burying them under, and

> now they even whisper in my ear when I'm jogging on the treadmill.

> Used to be, they weren't with me *all* the time. Now, they are.

>

> Help! (Going under, for the first time ....)

>

> Suzy C.

> Age 45

> RNY 5/30/02

> 268/130

> (and oh yeah ... startin' menopause now, too.

> Go Ahead, Make My Day. ;-D)

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure if it ever totally goes away. At least it hasn't at 29

months out. One thing that helps me is seeing a therapist occasionally.

Sometimes it is that my head hasn't caught up to my body.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:51:40 -0000 " suzyc1958 "

writes:

> Or maybe I should ask, Does it ever stop getting harder?

>

> (** no snickering **)

>

> I'm 17 months post-op and have been mostly lurking in these parts,

> but I've noticed that it is harder and harder for me to stick to my

>

> good post-op eating habits. I haven't regained anything (yet),

> largely because I keep clambering up on the danged horse, but I'm

> looking more and more disheveled each time now. I figured, I'd just

>

> learn to handle the occasional " rough patch " of bad eating now and

> then, as " normal " people do (don't they? ... ), but the rough

> patches

> are coming more and more often, and frankly, they're not really all

>

> that rough; truth is, I'm just wantin' junk food way too much.

>

> I've read the sage advice on how to detox from carbs and sugars (and

>

> yes, I'm still doing my protein shakes). I'm doing my best to

> follow

> it, but am annoyed with myself that it's come to that already and

> am,

> of course, absolutely terrified of regaining everything, like I

> always did as a pre-op. Unlike many of the brave souls here,

> sometimes, when I fall off the horse, I just wander off the farm and

>

> don't even try to return. I feel the odds of that happening are

> really growing lately.

>

> For you longer-term post-ops, does this ever get easier? Does it

> keep getting harder? Do you just finally have a day where you

> accept

> you'll have screamin' head hunger demons, off 'n on, forever? What

>

> do you tell the little buggers to get 'em to shaddup? I hear their

>

> cries even under all that protein I've been burying them under, and

>

> now they even whisper in my ear when I'm jogging on the treadmill.

>

> Used to be, they weren't with me *all* the time. Now, they are.

>

> Help! (Going under, for the first time ....)

>

> Suzy C.

> Age 45

> RNY 5/30/02

> 268/130

> (and oh yeah ... startin' menopause now, too.

> Go Ahead, Make My Day. ;-D)

>

>

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For me, I won't go back to the honeymoon stage and I have just come to

accept that. No use crying over spilt milk. The first 18 months were easy

by comparison. But does it stop getting harder? Sometimes. It was really

hard for me from Dec to June of this past year about 19 - 24 mos post op. I

saw myself starting to regain. What has helped me tremendously is getting

back on these lists. Sometimes I think I will leave the lists... worried

about time. But the truth is I am afraid of leaving the lists ... afraid of

forgetting how important this is to me.

My weight loss has been slow because I wasn't perfect by any means. If I

don't want to start regaining and want to stay in the dropping weight column

no matter how slow that is for me I have to keep it fresh. The lists help

to do that. Help me to remember that maybe a year ago I could get away with

grazing and still lose. Today I can't.

One of the biggest physical aids to getting back on track for me is doing

protein shakes and trying to go low carb. Do I slip from the low carb

sometimes? Sure. But I am NOT going to beat myself up about it. Previous

to weight loss surgery I beat myself up emotionally every time I slipped and

IT DOESN'T WORK. So why should I indulge in a behavior that doesn't work.

Just pick my rear end up and get back with what I know works. Drink protein

shakes, don't drink with meals, try to keep an open mind to what I hear on

the lists. Stick with the winners (losers). It does make it simpler when

I stop fighting the program. Wishing and dreaming aint gonna get me there.

I also have decided that I am not going to be Carnie . I didn't have

the type of surgery she had. My doc told me to expect to get 180 and I would

be considered a success. At 180 I will still be overweight. But I will be a

lot healthier than I was. I also remind myself everyday that I AM a lot

healthier than I was pre-surgery both mentally and physically. I don't know

if I will ever have any reconstructive surgery... will cross that bridge

when I get there. Meanwhile I have the hanging apron and the crepey skin and

the bat wings but it's not about looking good so much as feeling good. And

that makes me look beautiful when I see that face in the mirror. All 195 lbs

of her beaming back at me.

Weight Loss Surgery is not the plan that gives out crowns for the most

weight lost, there is no pig pen when we slip. I am me. I don't compare

with others. I am a success. I am a slow success but honey I am a success.

And if I want to continue to be one I have to believe it every day.

B. from NJ

Open RNY

6/25/01

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Find a meeting close by and GO, that helps get your mindset reset!!!

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Re: Does it ever get easier?

For me, I won't go back to the honeymoon stage and I have just come to

accept that. No use crying over spilt milk. The first 18 months were easy

by comparison. But does it stop getting harder? Sometimes. It was really

hard for me from Dec to June of this past year about 19 - 24 mos post op. I

saw myself starting to regain. What has helped me tremendously is getting

back on these lists. Sometimes I think I will leave the lists... worried

about time. But the truth is I am afraid of leaving the lists ... afraid of

forgetting how important this is to me.

My weight loss has been slow because I wasn't perfect by any means. If I

don't want to start regaining and want to stay in the dropping weight column

no matter how slow that is for me I have to keep it fresh. The lists help

to do that. Help me to remember that maybe a year ago I could get away with

grazing and still lose. Today I can't.

One of the biggest physical aids to getting back on track for me is doing

protein shakes and trying to go low carb. Do I slip from the low carb

sometimes? Sure. But I am NOT going to beat myself up about it. Previous

to weight loss surgery I beat myself up emotionally every time I slipped and

IT DOESN'T WORK. So why should I indulge in a behavior that doesn't work.

Just pick my rear end up and get back with what I know works. Drink protein

shakes, don't drink with meals, try to keep an open mind to what I hear on

the lists. Stick with the winners (losers). It does make it simpler when

I stop fighting the program. Wishing and dreaming aint gonna get me there.

I also have decided that I am not going to be Carnie . I didn't have

the type of surgery she had. My doc told me to expect to get 180 and I would

be considered a success. At 180 I will still be overweight. But I will be a

lot healthier than I was. I also remind myself everyday that I AM a lot

healthier than I was pre-surgery both mentally and physically. I don't know

if I will ever have any reconstructive surgery... will cross that bridge

when I get there. Meanwhile I have the hanging apron and the crepey skin and

the bat wings but it's not about looking good so much as feeling good. And

that makes me look beautiful when I see that face in the mirror. All 195 lbs

of her beaming back at me.

Weight Loss Surgery is not the plan that gives out crowns for the most

weight lost, there is no pig pen when we slip. I am me. I don't compare

with others. I am a success. I am a slow success but honey I am a success.

And if I want to continue to be one I have to believe it every day.

B. from NJ

Open RNY

6/25/01

313/195/???

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It does get better....I can't say easier LOL..cause it can be a constant

struggle for me anyway if i am not good starting out in the day. This is

why I force myself most days to start out with a shake. I also read from

someone on the list that if one is a night snacker..it's good to grab a

shake instead. I'm going to try that. My nights are terrible. What needs

to happen is it needs to become a habit. It takes anywhere from 2 to 4

months to really establish a " habit " . That means you need to somehow force

yourself to try during that time then it somewhat becomes a habit and is

better. But please do not beat yourself up if you fail one day....cause it

will happen. I have found a little saying that helps me sometimes...If I

can be good MOST of the time, I will succeed. I got this from the zone

diet. So when i have a bad day, I am much nicer to myself thinking about

all my successful days I've had and I tend to actually do much better the

next few days than if I scold myself.

Hope that helps

Sherra

Re: Does it ever get easier?

> Oh Suzy you poor thing! I am over 10 years post op and have no

> regain, however I am viligent about my health. I am not saying it is

> easy as a matter of fact the demons whisper to me most of the time.

> When those craving start in on me, I grab a protein bar, I have

> several that I really like and they taste better than a candy bar to

> me and plus they make me feel good. There are days when I get so

> tried of having to supplement with vits and protein, but then I

> remind myself how crappy I will feel if I don't behave. Also, I have

> a motto that I live by: " Nothing tastes as good as being thin

> feels " . I say that mantra 100 times a day, very day. Honey it will

> start to get second nature as more time goes on and you just simply

> have to tell yourself this is a lifetime deal and you just gotta come

> to terms with it. Kinda like doing your hair and makeup every day-it

> is a drag but I would not be caught dead in public unless I am put

> together, so my supplmenting has become a habit just like my daily

> hygeine. I am also in menopause and that stinks! I am on HRT and

> that has really helped with all the awful symptoms.

>

> Just hang in there darling and remember some days you will be the bug

> and some days you will be the windshield and as more and more time

> goes on, your bug days will become less and less!

> Wishing you much success!

> EJ

> Open RNY

> post op-270

> pre op 10+ years - 130

> 5'8 " -almost 52 years old and loving life!

>

>

> > Or maybe I should ask, Does it ever stop getting harder?

> >

> > (** no snickering **)

> >

> > I'm 17 months post-op and have been mostly lurking in these parts,

> > but I've noticed that it is harder and harder for me to stick to my

> > good post-op eating habits. I haven't regained anything (yet),

> > largely because I keep clambering up on the danged horse, but I'm

> > looking more and more disheveled each time now. I figured, I'd

> just

> > learn to handle the occasional " rough patch " of bad eating now and

> > then, as " normal " people do (don't they? ... ), but the rough

> patches

> > are coming more and more often, and frankly, they're not really all

> > that rough; truth is, I'm just wantin' junk food way too much.

> >

> > I've read the sage advice on how to detox from carbs and sugars

> (and

> > yes, I'm still doing my protein shakes). I'm doing my best to

> follow

> > it, but am annoyed with myself that it's come to that already and

> am,

> > of course, absolutely terrified of regaining everything, like I

> > always did as a pre-op. Unlike many of the brave souls here,

> > sometimes, when I fall off the horse, I just wander off the farm

> and

> > don't even try to return. I feel the odds of that happening are

> > really growing lately.

> >

> > For you longer-term post-ops, does this ever get easier? Does it

> > keep getting harder? Do you just finally have a day where you

> accept

> > you'll have screamin' head hunger demons, off 'n on, forever? What

> > do you tell the little buggers to get 'em to shaddup? I hear their

> > cries even under all that protein I've been burying them under, and

> > now they even whisper in my ear when I'm jogging on the treadmill.

> > Used to be, they weren't with me *all* the time. Now, they are.

> >

> > Help! (Going under, for the first time ....)

> >

> > Suzy C.

> > Age 45

> > RNY 5/30/02

> > 268/130

> > (and oh yeah ... startin' menopause now, too.

> > Go Ahead, Make My Day. ;-D)

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

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>

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,

What a wonderful post. I'm going to keep this to read from time to time .

I feel the same way about the lists. At times...it gets tiring rehashing

the same questions over and over but that is my problem not anyone else's.

That is when it's good to take a break. If it weren't for this support

group and the protein one, I'd be so lost. I attribute my success today by

having all this stuff rehashed because it reinforces what my new habit (I

call it new cause for 20 yrs of my life I had bad old habits) needs to be.

My thinking has gone a 180. I left the list a long time ago...because I

wasn't ready to hear that milk was bad and that mediocre regular vitamins

wouldn't cut it with all the malabsorption changes in our body. I came back

when I was sick of being sickly....and I see the difference in myself. If

not for coming back to this list, I'd not be at goal today.

Sherra

Re: Does it ever get easier?

> For me, I won't go back to the honeymoon stage and I have just come to

> accept that. No use crying over spilt milk. The first 18 months were easy

> by comparison. But does it stop getting harder? Sometimes. It was

really

> hard for me from Dec to June of this past year about 19 - 24 mos post op.

I

> saw myself starting to regain. What has helped me tremendously is getting

> back on these lists. Sometimes I think I will leave the lists... worried

> about time. But the truth is I am afraid of leaving the lists ... afraid

of

> forgetting how important this is to me.

>

> My weight loss has been slow because I wasn't perfect by any means. If I

> don't want to start regaining and want to stay in the dropping weight

column

> no matter how slow that is for me I have to keep it fresh. The lists help

> to do that. Help me to remember that maybe a year ago I could get away

with

> grazing and still lose. Today I can't.

>

> One of the biggest physical aids to getting back on track for me is doing

> protein shakes and trying to go low carb. Do I slip from the low carb

> sometimes? Sure. But I am NOT going to beat myself up about it.

Previous

> to weight loss surgery I beat myself up emotionally every time I slipped

and

> IT DOESN'T WORK. So why should I indulge in a behavior that doesn't work.

> Just pick my rear end up and get back with what I know works. Drink

protein

> shakes, don't drink with meals, try to keep an open mind to what I hear

on

> the lists. Stick with the winners (losers). It does make it simpler

when

> I stop fighting the program. Wishing and dreaming aint gonna get me

there.

>

> I also have decided that I am not going to be Carnie . I didn't

have

> the type of surgery she had. My doc told me to expect to get 180 and I

would

> be considered a success. At 180 I will still be overweight. But I will be

a

> lot healthier than I was. I also remind myself everyday that I AM a lot

> healthier than I was pre-surgery both mentally and physically. I don't

know

> if I will ever have any reconstructive surgery... will cross that bridge

> when I get there. Meanwhile I have the hanging apron and the crepey skin

and

> the bat wings but it's not about looking good so much as feeling good.

And

> that makes me look beautiful when I see that face in the mirror. All 195

lbs

> of her beaming back at me.

>

> Weight Loss Surgery is not the plan that gives out crowns for the most

> weight lost, there is no pig pen when we slip. I am me. I don't compare

> with others. I am a success. I am a slow success but honey I am a

success.

> And if I want to continue to be one I have to believe it every day.

>

> B. from NJ

> Open RNY

> 6/25/01

> 313/195/???

>

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Sherra,

That is a great saying . . . it's going on my fridge right now!

Joanie

Re: Does it ever get easier?

>

>

> > Oh Suzy you poor thing! I am over 10 years post op and have no

> > regain, however I am viligent about my health. I am not saying it is

> > easy as a matter of fact the demons whisper to me most of the time.

> > When those craving start in on me, I grab a protein bar, I have

> > several that I really like and they taste better than a candy bar to

> > me and plus they make me feel good. There are days when I get so

> > tried of having to supplement with vits and protein, but then I

> > remind myself how crappy I will feel if I don't behave. Also, I have

> > a motto that I live by: " Nothing tastes as good as being thin

> > feels " . I say that mantra 100 times a day, very day. Honey it will

> > start to get second nature as more time goes on and you just simply

> > have to tell yourself this is a lifetime deal and you just gotta come

> > to terms with it. Kinda like doing your hair and makeup every day-it

> > is a drag but I would not be caught dead in public unless I am put

> > together, so my supplmenting has become a habit just like my daily

> > hygeine. I am also in menopause and that stinks! I am on HRT and

> > that has really helped with all the awful symptoms.

> >

> > Just hang in there darling and remember some days you will be the bug

> > and some days you will be the windshield and as more and more time

> > goes on, your bug days will become less and less!

> > Wishing you much success!

> > EJ

> > Open RNY

> > post op-270

> > pre op 10+ years - 130

> > 5'8 " -almost 52 years old and loving life!

> >

> >

> > > Or maybe I should ask, Does it ever stop getting harder?

> > >

> > > (** no snickering **)

> > >

> > > I'm 17 months post-op and have been mostly lurking in these parts,

> > > but I've noticed that it is harder and harder for me to stick to my

> > > good post-op eating habits. I haven't regained anything (yet),

> > > largely because I keep clambering up on the danged horse, but I'm

> > > looking more and more disheveled each time now. I figured, I'd

> > just

> > > learn to handle the occasional " rough patch " of bad eating now and

> > > then, as " normal " people do (don't they? ... ), but the rough

> > patches

> > > are coming more and more often, and frankly, they're not really all

> > > that rough; truth is, I'm just wantin' junk food way too much.

> > >

> > > I've read the sage advice on how to detox from carbs and sugars

> > (and

> > > yes, I'm still doing my protein shakes). I'm doing my best to

> > follow

> > > it, but am annoyed with myself that it's come to that already and

> > am,

> > > of course, absolutely terrified of regaining everything, like I

> > > always did as a pre-op. Unlike many of the brave souls here,

> > > sometimes, when I fall off the horse, I just wander off the farm

> > and

> > > don't even try to return. I feel the odds of that happening are

> > > really growing lately.

> > >

> > > For you longer-term post-ops, does this ever get easier? Does it

> > > keep getting harder? Do you just finally have a day where you

> > accept

> > > you'll have screamin' head hunger demons, off 'n on, forever? What

> > > do you tell the little buggers to get 'em to shaddup? I hear their

> > > cries even under all that protein I've been burying them under, and

> > > now they even whisper in my ear when I'm jogging on the treadmill.

> > > Used to be, they weren't with me *all* the time. Now, they are.

> > >

> > > Help! (Going under, for the first time ....)

> > >

> > > Suzy C.

> > > Age 45

> > > RNY 5/30/02

> > > 268/130

> > > (and oh yeah ... startin' menopause now, too.

> > > Go Ahead, Make My Day. ;-D)

> >

> >

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> >

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

<<For me, I won't go back to the honeymoon stage and I have just come to

accept that.>>

: Boy-o-boy ... you said it all for me as well!! You and I started

essentially the same time and weight and are about the same now. I've given up

on my " Carnie " dream, but it's the same thing, in my opinion, as normies have

dreams about model-like magazine covers. The grass is always greener, ya know?

I am so happy (and blessed) to be where I am, give or take 5-8 pounds ...

I've come so far and I'm so much more healthier. I will, however, never, EVER

be that 150 gal that I aspire to be, it's just not in my genes. So I march on,

like you, with this list and it's supporters and it's advice, keeping in mind

I'm happy for how far I've come, not sad at what I thought would be. I

treasure each and every moment of my newly gained health.

Thanks for your thoughts. They were RIGHT ON with me!

Bobbie

Anchorge, AK

Open Proximal RNY 5/11/01

Panniculectomy: 2/14/03

Brachioplasty: 1/20/04

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